Topic : 12/29 Drunken Mistakes

Did anyone not get to see this episode?  I was so ready to watch this and they showed a different episode.  Anyone know anything about that?

I agree with Dr Phill 100% on what he said about the driver being responsible for the action and death of his friend. Him deserving to spend 5 plus years in jail, him not getting it. We have to also remember the importance of the responsability we have to ourselves and loved ones. We have a choice as adults. Clint did make the decision to ride with a drunk driver, he was with him all night and knew how much he had been drinking. We need to let our loved one know we will come get them pay for a cab whatever but DO NOT RIDE WITH A DRUNK DRIVER EVER!!

I think carly should be taken to see what happens when you drive drunk and kill someone let her see a dead body from a drunk driver and talk to there familys . I dont feel there is any drunken mistakes if you drink you have to know what will happen if you drink and drive unless you just don't care. She seams to care more about herself then who she could kill .

I think carly should be taken to see what happens when you drive drunk and kill someone let her see a dead body from a drunk driver and talk to there familys . I dont feel there is any drunken mistakes if you drink you have to know what will happen if you drink and drive unless you just don't care. She seams to care more about herself then who she could kill .

Where I grew  up driver's ed was required to get a licence before age 18.  At the public schools I heard horror stories about the films they showed--like the ones you describe, showing what hapens at car crashes.  I believe in driver's ed.  I live in a state now that does not have the funds to require it.  It's a shame.

But when you say that "if you drink  you have to know what will happen if you drink and drive unless you jsut don't care" This statement does not take into account that alcohol consumption IMPAIRS your ability to make decisions.  People know that  drinking and driving is not smart. It's dangerous.  It is illegal.  But once you are drunk,  your judgement suffers.  You may think, I'm not THAT drunk.  I've doen it before and nothing bad happened.  I'm only a few blocks from home.  These are non-sense thoughts that soemhow make sense to people who KNOW that driving drunk is a horrible idea WHEN THEY ARE SOBER. THIS is the problem with consuming alcohol to excess.  And by the way, excess is basically defined as taking in more than your body can metabolize--in other words, any time you get a buzz from drinking, you have drunk to excess.

And soemthing else--I'm sure at the time she DID care more about herself than the people she "could kill."  People who are alcoholic or drug addicted are HIDEOUSLY, notoriously selfish and self-centered.  They have to be to continue to do what they do, which is to feed their addiction.   It's part of the addiction process. It can be a great obstacle to recovery, too.  Hopefully now, with a little treatment in her system, she is getting the picture.  I'm sure she will go through a phase of being horrified at what she has done, once the layer of denial is peeled away...if she makes it that far.

Take care

If Clint was drinking, too, he probably did not have the ability to make a good decision about getting in the car with his drunk friend.  Alcohol takes that ability away. This is a tragedy all around.  But not ONLY because the friend did something bad.  The boys  went out drinking, had impaired judgement, they did some things they shouldn't have done, and one of those horrible, gut-wrenching accidents happened that took this family's son.  It's awful.  Drinking and driving don't mix??? How about drinking and LIViNG don't mix...

But you are absolutely right!!! NEVER get in the car with soemone who is drunk.  Make sure your kids know you would rather be awakend at 3 am to come get them than that they ride in a car with another kid who's been drinking.

well, there are millions of people whith half a brain cell that do believe it's a disease.  You say you were a former "drunk".  Once a drunk always a drunk.  That's my motto.  How did homosexuality have anything to do with this show?  Yes, it is a choice to drink.  Lots of people have choices to do whatever they want.  But, as you should know, alcohol impairs your ability to make good decisions.  So, in tha way alone is it a choice.  Once that first drink or two is in you then you are no longer thinking clearly.  We all know this.  I've got a novel idea...let's look at how many people get in a car everyday and not drink and drive but drive in an angry or agressive manner.  In otherwords roadrage.  People die every single day in car accidents not related to drugs or alcohol.  I personally have a friend who was in a car accident from someone slamming on their breaks and they ran right into the back of them.  It was their choice to drive ignorant too.  So, it's no only alcohol, it's any other drug that someone could be taking too tha may cause an accident.  But society accepts alcohol because it's legal.  Again, i stick to he point that the government has a monopoly on alcohol so therefore they make it legal.  Why isn't it illegal?  Alcohol is one of the quickest and most dangerous drugs i've ever seen in my life.  So, bottom line is that, yes, we do all have choices but because you are a "former drunk" does not give you the right to judge.  People are not all the same and maybe people like Carly may have some other problems and things that have happened in her life to help her make the "choices" she has made.  Again, no one wakes up and decides alcoholism is their life.  People can even die from the withdrawals.  You say that's not a disease?  No one is saying alcoholism or homosexuality is both ways.  I'm a homosexual and in recovery.  How about that?  Bu, I'm here, I'm alive and I can share my experiences with others instead of bashing their life.  that's what a good person would do.  Help someone in need and someone who struggles.  I'm sure they fell alone enough without more abuse. 

all i have to say about your comment is this.  GET EDUCATED.   There's only one GOD in my eyes and it's not you or anyone else.  Road RAge people who have caused deaths should be treated the same too Is that what you are saying.  many people die every day in our country related to road rage and many other things.  Not just alcohol.  "drunks" ...today's word is alcoholics.    Good luck ..

You  said being a former drunk does not give me the right to judge.  I have  judged nobody, but you sure felt you had the right to  judge me.   I believe your "motto"  is "once a drund always a drunk".  Well you are wrong.  I was a drunk for a very long time, but I made the choice to no longer drink (anything that was an alcholoic drink)  and I am no longer a drunk.  I am not "bashing" anyone's lifestyle choice, but I don't think that anyone can change any type of bad behavior while the world is coddeling them and telling them that  their behavior is ok because they can't help it and they have a disease.  When a person finally takes responsibility for their life choices then they can deal with their problems in a productive way.

Dottie,

 

Tell me, what if it was your daughter on the other side, she had been the one that got hit, or even worse was killed by a drunk driver?    Yes human make mistakes, but that human made that mistake three times.  Yes three times!  So while he may be human, that is not acceptable to me.  And sorry neither is your daughter.  She keeps doing it.  And half the time, doesn't remember doing it.  I am not angry with you.  I am angry with all the people that do it.  I was in counseling for a long time and yes I still have some anger issues, but I have every right to be angry with people that do it.  The man skipped state, took his family with him.  He did everything he could not to have been punished.  If you are stupid enough to drink and drive, then you need to accept the responsibility that comes with it.  He should have been a man and took whatever punishment he deserved.  You shouldn't be defending your daughter.  She may be human and make mistakes but you shouldn't be defending those kind of mistakes.  I congratulate you on helping yourself with going to the meetings etc.  I am glad to see that you aren't drinking anymore as well.  You may just have saved someone but not doing it yourself.  God speed.