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Created on : Thursday, October 05, 2006, 04:42:21 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/11/06) Did you know that your financial decisions could land you on the street?  Are you one paycheck away from disaster? Stacey has two children and one on the way, and she says she is close to being homeless and it's the fault of her kids’ deadbeat dads, and her parents who have cut her off. Stacey's ex-husband, Pete, says their son would be better off living with him. So, why does he refuse to pay child support? And, see what Dr. Phil provides for Stacey to help get her life back on track. Then, a hidden camera experiment shows how people really treat the homeless on the streets. And, meet a family who was living paycheck-to-paycheck when the money stopped coming in, leaving them homeless. Manuel and Heather and their four children have been living cramped in their RV for the last year, where they have no electricity and must take showers at public beaches. The difficult circumstances are taking a huge toll on their family, especially the children. How did they end up in this situation? Dr. Phil makes an important, life-changing announcement to the family. Share your thoughts here.

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October 11, 2006, 8:45 pm PDT

Child support

Listen...I am not feeling sorry for this women on this show. I have been a single mom for years with having the same career for nearly 26 years. My son who is now going on 21 has so much respect for both his dad and I. While my son was at the age of receiving child support, I made sure his father saw receipts of clothes and christian private schooling for him. He never asked me once to show how the money was spent, but I felt that this man needed to know how this child support was being responiabily spend for our son. It was out of respect and for the love of our son that I felt it was in the best interest for all those involved. His education far out weight anything at that time. For gosh sake..you women need to get a life and start working, Its not the end of the world. Yes I would work 2 sometimes 3 jobs. But at least I can say I make Christmas for him. I always made sure I was the one who picked him up. My day off was my second job while he was at school. Third job was on the weekend nights. Cutting hair during the day, going to nursing homes each Wednesday of the month. Round table on Friday night through Sunday night. Now I have additional to my career my AABussiness degree, and next will be my Bachlor degree in Paralegal. One must have self endurance and respect. I had the opportunity to go back home Florida when my son was 2. I live in California, My answer to my mother was no. She raised 8 of us and its my job to raise my son.

Now this man on TV now should not have to pay $900.00 a month. That is out of control. She should be willing to show some type of paper trail of what she is doing with the money for that child. This women got herself into this situation...she needs no help. She needs no one to hold her hand any more. I am 100% supporting what this man is going through and its not fair to him. I hope  he reads this and he needs to know that his calulation of about 3 to 4 hundred a month is more than enough. This women shamed herself and is not being a role model as one should be. She wants someone else to fix her problems, By the way,,,..I never did section 8 or food stamps and all of those things. The way my parents raised me. Use common sense and be smart about your making decisions. Now my son is attending WyoTech and he graduated highschool 2 in line. So to that women on stage,,,stop belly up and start making it one foot in front of the other. I don't think she wants to really work,

 

 
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October 11, 2006, 8:46 pm PDT

Child support

I am a victim of the Indiana divorce/child support system . I paid my child support after having to pay my ex-wife's back state and federal taxes on capital gains from the sale of our house! She took the kids from California to Indiana and then came after me. Divorce is an anti-male punishment. A woman can and will file for divorce and get more money and rewards than staying married. My wife made $60,000 and I $30,000, and the cost of living was in her favor.She did not give me the court ordered visatation rights but the court only cared about the child support even though I filed for my rights. Since she lived in Indiana the court favored her over me! She wrote love letters to guys in prison and went line dancing in bars. Now my kids are estranged from me because I missed their childhood even after paying the child support. One of my sons commited identity fraud using my identity. The money was paid but the family was broken and the child support is long gone,given to a spendaholic which was the reason for my mariatal problems.Now she is dead and my kids treat me the same!!!!!!!!
 
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October 11, 2006, 8:48 pm PDT

Living on Both sides of the fence

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I have long felt that men have gotten the shaft when it came to child support and alimony.  I've had friends who received child support, and misused it grieviously.  Can you imagine how you would feel to pay 50, 60% of your hard-earned pay to support some bum your ex-spouse is shacking up with??  That is a reality in the real world.  Or to pay for someone else's kid/s? 

 

I think Dr. Phil is really out of touch with the real world on this one.  It most certainly is anyone's right to know where their hard-earned money is being spent.  I have long-held that the courts should allow parents the option to either pay the "blank check" way, or pay the amount by direct purchases or setting up a college fund, buying food, clothing, school payments, etc.  What would be so hard about that?  That would provide a lot of peace of mind, and also show the courts that it doesn't cost $900 for one kid per month, for crying out loud!!  No matter how much the paying parent makes.

 

 

My husbands ex is a true example of cheating the system Dr. Phil.  She should be working with the Government of our country with her highly intelligent ways.  She has 3 children by 3 guys. Divorced twice married husband #1's cousin, so child 1 and new husband are related, and their child is cousin 1st / half sister to the siblings!  This woman never paid child item bills or clothing with the child support we gave her, she bought beer, cigarettes and whatever she wanted.  My stepson wore shoes with holes in them and she refused to buy him any with the money we gave her she said that is her money not his!  After the child got to be 11, he began to see the real mom, telling him his dad didn't want him, wasn't coming this weekend, etc. when really she wouldn't let us have him!  She call blocked us and wouldn't let us talk to him!  Now that we have him through the court system, do you think she pays child support, helps with medical or dental, or even helps with extra-curricular activities?  NO!!!!  but, she never agrees with anything, because then "there is no agreement on record and she doesn't have to pay!", but tells the son not to get out of sports or tell your dad he has to buy your first car and pay for the drivers ed.  Do you think this is the way it should be?  Courts don't care, we are just another day and when they go home, do you think they worry about jr or the ex or the supposedly dead beat?  no they don't.  It is who can pay them the most to get the decision.  This woman filed bankruptcy once we finally after a $10,000.00 attorney bill, got judgements against her!  So, where are we now!  Paying $1700.00 a month house payment to pay all her bills she owed and our attorney bill and living not even pay check to paycheck and she is living high and owes nothing!  Come over and live in my shoes.  I also have an ex who has now said he never remembers getting child support from 10 years ago.  Try to get a bank to get a copy of the back of your check from 10 years ago.  Not possible!!!!   So guess  what?  I owe $27,000.00 which I already paid!  Kids in a divorce are just a money issue!  Do you not pay for rent, utilities when your on your own?  The system sucks!

 
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October 11, 2006, 8:50 pm PDT

Heather & Manuel keep your head up!!!!

    I don't know if you'll be able to read this but if you can then I want you to know that I will keep you guys in my prayers. I HOPE everything from now on goes well. I would someday love to see all you guys again especially Lei don't get me wrong I love all you guys but you know Lei and I could stay with each other all the time and not get tired of one another. I'm still in Ogden living with my grandparents, so if you guys are ever in the neigborhood stop by. 

 

 

                                 LOVE ALWAYS,

                                                            Jenny M  (in the dumb state)

 
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October 11, 2006, 8:57 pm PDT

Oklahoma dhs Sucks!

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And where is the justice for your children? How do you think that they feel knowing their mother had a hand in putting their father in jail because you didn't get your money? Did you ever think that maybe he is robbing Peter to pay Paul and he still does not have enough? No instead you thought about putting him in jail so he could not see his kids. No wonder society and the family values of the good ol' days are so screwed!!! With people that have thought processes like this.
Oklahoma dhs does not help!   We are on both sides of the fence.  The ex received $6,000.00 but she said she didn't.  We proved it by getting the money orders (front and back) showing her signature and bank account number.  Do you think DHS has made a decision on that?  No, That was 3 years ago!  They won't even talk to us or return a phone call.  They just say another case worker has that file!    Now that we have the child, do you think she pays child support of $181.00?  No, she doesn't.  She pays nothing!  We took her to court and she filed bankruptcy on child support, medical and dental, $3,000.00.  Do you think bankrupty court or county court made her pay that?  No, they said it stands as bankruptcy.  So now what?  Any advise?
 

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October 11, 2006, 9:01 pm PDT

Everyone seems to have Internet Access

This episode made me so incredible angry that I was compelled to come to the website and see if others felt the way I did after watching.  Instead, I see the majority of people want to share their own sob stories about how hard they have it in life.

First, y'all have internet access.  You can't be doing THAT bad. 

Second, no one said life was supposed to be easy.  If you can't afford the children you have, like the first guest, don't have another one.  There are tons of options out there - before and after getting pregnant - that should be considered, for the sake of that child and the children she already has.  Second, if your spouse gets sick, make sure you get to your job on time so you don't get fired. 

These people infuriated me!  And Dr. Phil continued the enabling by giving the first guest free rent and the second a rent-free townhome.  I watch Dr. Phil religiously - and this was the first time I was disappointed in him.  Teach these people to fish, Dr. Phil. 

The problem with this country is everyone wants a free ride without taking any responsibility for the bad choices they make.  And the children end up suffering.  It's ridiculous, sad, and again, infuriating.
 

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October 11, 2006, 9:07 pm PDT

Agreed!

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 I have great empathy for folks that run on bad times, or work 40+ hours and can't seem to get on track.  I have none for thefamily in the RV and the condo and new furniture should not have beengiven to them.

I have a bone disease, confined permanently to a wheelchair.  Iget up every day with fractures in my arms and/or legs and go to work,working forty  hours a week to make sure I can provide for myselfwithout government assistance.  I am not inflicting my poorsituations on others.

The man, the "bread winner" can't show up to work on time.  Areyou kidding me??  The lady has anxiety.  Who in the helldoesn't. 

I have never posted to any blog, website, message board in mylife.  However, my frustrations are at a peak.  This show didnot inspire me, or open my eyes to the less fortunate.  It showed me that society is lazy and Dr. Phil is a softy.  Dr. Phil,put the wood to them and tell them to get a job and provide for the family they created!!
You are the true inspiration - confined to a wheelchair, I'm sure in pain, yet you still get up every day and provide for yourself.  You should be highlighted on Dr. Phil and not these lowlifes who are basically abusing their children because they can't get their act together.

I, too, haven't commented on Dr. Phil's website before this episode, but this is the first time I've disagreed with what he did.  Anxiety???? Ask your four children how anxious they are when they go to school and are teased for living in an RV! 
 
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October 11, 2006, 9:10 pm PDT

The family that lives in the trailer

Dr. Phil,
I rarely disagree with you and what you provide for people and what you say to people. Today that changed. I was watching your show about that family living in the RV and it just outraged me. I too suffer from bipolar/panic/anxiety you name it disorder. I go to school and lead a normal life. I don't live in an RV and complain about being homeless. Her husband is just making excuses not to work. Look at his work history! These people do no deserve a house or your assistance. They need a swift kick in the ass. They are lazy and looking for a handout and you just gave it to them. The ONLY people that i feel sorry for are the kids. They should not have to live in the conditions they live in and they don't no deserve lazy unproductive parents.

I have MANY days where I can barely leave the house because of anxiety and I'll be out some where and randomly just start to panic. You don't stop living life with these disorders! I don't have a job because i'm in school but, i am still able to get the medication i need from the county so that i can lead a normal life. Have these people even looked into public assistance of any kind? It really gets me that they write to you and come on your show with their sob story and you hand them a house full of furniture.

Can i come on our show and whine about being bipolar and not having any money? Will you give me a house?
 
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October 11, 2006, 9:10 pm PDT

Here's one for ya!!

Ya all need to catch a clue! I was married 8 years to man who was abusive not only to me but to my kids as well. I finally had enough & left. Two of the kids weren't his & two were. It took me two years or better to get anything out of him. He was in the militery at the time. He took a buy out his last five years & I still didn't get anything. It took me to get on welfare to get it going then it wasn't much. When I finally got a job & out of the system, I never went back to ask for more & used the money on the girls, unless I was short & needed it on a bill or to pay rent, & he was told that. I even used it a time or two for food, but never on myself.  He refused to spend any money to come see them, & the phone calls got to be pumping information out of them. Was I working & who was I sleeping with, which we were divorced by then & it wasn't any of his business. Then as time passed I decided that it would be okay for them to go see their dad, & spend the summer with him. They weren't gone two months & I got hit with custody papers. Him & some low life attorney managed to get papers drawn up to get them from me. He was on the east coast  & I on the west, & no money to get back to fight him for the girls. I tried everything but to no avail. Nobody would tell me what I needed to do. I lost my girls for along time. He wanted child supprt I refused for awhile, but as time has gone on he gets it every week now, but the kicker is & was then is that he'd get it & tell them if your mom paid child support you'd get this or that. The man was living with his mother, she was paying the bills & they both talked crap about me all the time. Then the agreement was for a year, at the end of the year instead of telling them he took custody of them, he tells them that I didn't want tem nor did I love them anymore. They were still young & it took me & my other two kids to go back & sneak around to see them for them to know I did love them & what was said wasn't true. I am still paying child support every week out of my checks, both the girls are grown one with a child & one with one on the way. My youngest who's pregnant now has only had something to do with me since Dec of last year, his mother & him both talked bad about me for so long she believed everything they said. We're now working on a relationship from a distance. I was recently diagnoised with MS & I wrote to her & told her only because her sisters knew & so did her brother, & I didn't want her to hear it from someone else but me. But even though we've talked she still has a hard time believing I've paid child support & still am. The girls when they were younger never saw anything from it, my ex spent on himself only. I know because the older of the two told me these things. I don't now & didn't in the past point fingers or do the he said she said stuff. The girls paid for my mistake, by hearing bad about me & now have a time wondering what's right & what's wrong with the things they were told. As they say every side has it's story. They ask a question & I tell them the upfront truth without getting into alot of detail to avoid the finger pointing thing. The systems stinks in alot of ways I know from past experience. They say women are bad & always wanting more more money, well I have an ex who every chance he got to get more he tried. He didn't want child support for the girls he wanted me to pay him back for the eight years we were married.
 
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October 11, 2006, 9:15 pm PDT

here's the thing

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I agree to a point......the fact of the matter is whether she had that child or not you still have those expenses rent,groceries...etc.....child support should be used to pay for clothes, education or medical expenses....not the rent or your new van or whatever. I agree the system is messed up and needs to be changed. It makes those that are doing what they are suppose to do pay for someone elses lifestyle and those that refuse hardly ever are held accountable. I am in that situation with my daughters deadbeat who won't keep an address or a job and the system considers it to much time, money and effort to go after him. Then there is my husband who is a wonderful father and husband and has his child support pulled out of his check yet his ex  doesn't think it is enough! Its ok for the woman to go on with her life and remarry  but for some reason there is this mentality that the man is not suppose to go on with is life remarry and have a family because the other child was there first?! SO! What makes another child more important than any of his other children?They are just as important as the first child! The mother is just as responsible for  the care and support of her children as the father is. I work my butt off to help take care of my family because after childsupport and taxes and all is pulled out of my husbands check there is hardly anything! The system is not a good one but do I think it will change? Not any time soon! Too many women are getting a nice paycheck every month and will throw  a fit!

When you said that whether you have the child or not, you still have those expenses. That is not true. I now have rent on a two bedroom (when I could've had one), I now buy groceries for two people, one who eats spaghettios, all kinds of cereals, has to have snacks, has to have lunch, has to bring his friends inside to play and eat sandwiches. I now have two people using water, two people using gas, two people using electricity. And that new van you protest me driving gets my child to soccer practice, school, the movies, birthday parties (that, by the way, I have to buy another child a gift for), and all the kid stuff he does. If you think it's the same, try supporting someone else in your home for free, you'll see how the expenses add up when you add an extra person to your household -- especially a child. If i used all of his child support to pay for clothes, education, and medical expenses, that would be totally crazy. He would be the best dressed kid in his free public school. He is hardly ever ill, and when he is, health insurance is in place and out of pocket expenses are minimal. So, what you are suggesting doesn't really fly when you hold it up to a microscope. Out of $500, you'd rather I not keep lights on and keep his everyday life going, you'd rather he dress well and go to private school?
 
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