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Created on : Thursday, October 05, 2006, 04:42:21 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/11/06) Did you know that your financial decisions could land you on the street?  Are you one paycheck away from disaster? Stacey has two children and one on the way, and she says she is close to being homeless and it's the fault of her kids’ deadbeat dads, and her parents who have cut her off. Stacey's ex-husband, Pete, says their son would be better off living with him. So, why does he refuse to pay child support? And, see what Dr. Phil provides for Stacey to help get her life back on track. Then, a hidden camera experiment shows how people really treat the homeless on the streets. And, meet a family who was living paycheck-to-paycheck when the money stopped coming in, leaving them homeless. Manuel and Heather and their four children have been living cramped in their RV for the last year, where they have no electricity and must take showers at public beaches. The difficult circumstances are taking a huge toll on their family, especially the children. How did they end up in this situation? Dr. Phil makes an important, life-changing announcement to the family. Share your thoughts here.

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October 13, 2006, 3:35 am PDT

10/11 One Paycheck Away

I just wanted to say that I can totally understand where the woman was coming from, who's ex-husband hadn't paid child support in over a year. I was in the same situation and I don't think that these men should be able to just turn their backs and forget the kids. Do they not think that their child support helps put a roof over their childs head and utilities. What about food, this man just didn't seem to really care. He was worried about her mistakes, well we all make them and I hate to tell him, but she didn't have that child alone and she didn't get pregnant alone, all 3 times. I feel sorry for men who miss out on their kids lives, because they will never know what they are missing and they don't care, but then I guess you can't miss what you never had. If all have problems and we all get down on our luck from time to time, but you learn to help yourself and go on. I have a very supportive family and I am very fortunate. 

 
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October 13, 2006, 6:22 am PDT

10/11 One Paycheck Away

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And I am glad someone else see's what I am talking about, you are correct,its funny how if your poor and can't afford anything, you can't get anything for free, but once you have the money to , you no longer have to pay, what kind of backward BS is that? But I am affraid that people are too worried about their comfort zone to try to help even the smallest amount. In their world its all about how much your doggy tote costs...come on? Children and homeless people in our country cannot get ahead if they are pushed to the side and never thought about..I thank god everyday I am able to provide a nice, loving, home for my children. And still able to help others. Thats really what its all about, If we don't take care of our own, then who will? PRIORITIZE people!

I agree. I have been one of the homeless ones. I know that it is easy to become one of the forgotten ones. I brought myself out of the pit and I did it with God's help. At the time my parents were dead so I didn't have them to run too. That was a desperate time in my life. We care more about who has Prada or Versace and not enough about who has a warm blanket tonight to keep them from freezing to death. Jesus said that what you do to the least of these you do unto him. No one wants to think about what if this were me but let me just say What if this was you. It could happen no matter who you are it can happen to you.

 
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October 13, 2006, 7:12 am PDT

Pete This Is Where The Money Goes FDor Your Kid!

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It IS his right to know what his hard earned money is. 

 

Having been in this siduation,  I can certainly say that the child support system is FLAWED at best.  Why should we non-custodial parents NOT know what the money is spent for, or hold the parent accountable for the money? 

 

Child support in most cases should NOT be based on INCOME, but by NEED.  PETE hit the nail on the head when he said that $800 in child support is too much.  If when together they only spent $300-$400 a month on all child issues/care, why should it DOUBLE or increase just because the non-custodial parent makes good money? 

 

Everyone raises the issue about child support helping to providing a "roof" or utilities for a child....this has got to be the biggest load of garbage I have heard.  I don't know of to many people who because they don't have children, live in a cold home during the winter, or go without the telephone since they have no kids.  With the exception of the water bill, the bottom line is those expenses are there reguardless of whether a child is there or not, why should the non-custodial parent have to pay even a percentage of this?

 

The custodial parent should be made to provide reciepts and proof of all expendatures to the courts AND to the non-custodial parant, and adjustments made as required.  You will find that less money is spent, non-custodial parents can still have a life, just like the custodial parent.

 

Because of this my child just turned 18, and though I payed religiously for the last 15+ years, I find myself $30,000.00 in debt because I could not save any money and needed things for my own new children, while I can still remember my ex buying VCR's and TV's  and other high ticket items and vacations, all while suposidly being unemployed.

Childcare when mom is at work:  50.00 per week

 

Food for the child:  50.00 per week

 

 Insurance, Gas upkeep of car that takes the child to daycare.  Takes mom to the grocery store to buy food for the child to eat:  50.00

 

Rent, heating, water per month:  500.00 per month

 

Clothes:  30.00

Recreation:  20.00

 

Phone:  15.00

 

Doctor visits insurance:  100.00 per month

 

Thats$815.00 so far!

 

 

$85.00 tip for the mom that is doing all the work!!!!!!

 

Grand total:  $900.00!

 

Thats where the money you are not paying is supposed to go Pete!  Now do you get it???????

 

 

 

 

 
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October 13, 2006, 7:30 am PDT

are you kidding me !!!!!!

I never dreamed that you could get in financial trouble than just go to Dr. Phil and he just hands you a house guess I should of though of that  3 years ago when my financial troubles started with my emergency  heart surgery that has left us on the verge of losing our house and having our necessities shut off !! I was always told you reep what you sew or that you are the only one that can pull your self out of you troubles so that is just what we are doing my husband is working 2 full time jobs  ( he is home only 3-4 hours a day and thats to sleep and shower !!)and I'm working 1 full time job !! So as far as the couple that was on the show I don't feel sorry for them thats the story of thousands of people in  our society today he should of told them to get off their lazy butts and both of them get a  job ( yes I said both there is no reason that she cant work there are alot of people with the same disorder !!!!!) and get over their self pity poor us attitude instead of giving them a hand out which is what they were looking for !!!!!!
 
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October 13, 2006, 8:39 am PDT

Did I say....

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 Are you implying I have no ambition? I am simply stating my openion. I have a VERY good life, and I am VERY blessed. You are correct in stating it is ourselves who envy, however how small minded you are to think there is only TWO types of people in our society. Many people find them selves in situations they have no control over, and it is up to us to help out our fellow man. Children starving must not be a big concern to you. I can only imagine what its like to be so selfish....I have made something of my self and provided a VERY nice home for my children, AS WELL AS helping others provide for their families as well, I would say it is the right thing to do, and I don't complain about it, nor am I out there saying "Look at me" I am helping less fortunate people....and I would imagine you are a bit close minded to think that EVERYONE has opportunities to do something with their lives, NOT everyone has the opportunities you so seem to think they do. I pray for you, that you don't find yourself in a less fortunate situation beyond your control...because just remember "there are MORE opportunities out there for you."

...that YOU personally had no ambition? I don't believe I did. I was merely stating my general OPINION of society.

In your original post you implied that the media and those selfish ones of means somehow contribute to the mess this world is in and this is what I argue. You asked, "Why do we allow this?"

I ask, allow what?

Allow the media to protray the rich as they are?

Allow a ballplayer to make more than a teacher?

Allow a movie star to contribute only little?

Allow some to be wealthy and others poor?

We live in a free society and those of great means, whether selfish or not, should not be condemned for not handing over those means to those in need.

This is what I seemed to gleen from your post. Was I mistaken?

Which is more right or wrong? To gain means from good life choices and not give to the poor OR make bad life choices and demand from the rich? There is greed in both.

It has always been a Christian thing to do-give to the poor. But when those of little ambition and means start demanding from those with great ambition and means, should not a line be drawn?

 

What I was trying to say is that most of us are where we are because of our OWN choosing.

I am so tired of hearing that people have no control over the life situations they are in!

I realize that a person born with a mental or physical disability would indeed have no control over his life, but the majority of adults, that I hear crying foul, have the control.

They have knowningly made bad choices in their lives and are now reaping the seeds they have sown.

A homeless man is where he is because he chose to drink, leave his job, not pay his bills...whatever.

This country is full of opportunities, all for the taking.

 

What I will agree to is that the abused, neglected ( "starving" )children in our society have no control over their lives and that is what really concerns me.

I am in the field of working with these children and I have seen more abuse in one day than you will in a lifetime and that is where I focus my attention, not on those who choose to be in the bad situations they are in.

Have a good day.

 

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October 13, 2006, 8:53 am PDT

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Childcare when mom is at work:  50.00 per week

 

Food for the child:  50.00 per week

 

 Insurance, Gas upkeep of car that takes the child to daycare.  Takes mom to the grocery store to buy food for the child to eat:  50.00

 

Rent, heating, water per month:  500.00 per month

 

Clothes:  30.00

Recreation:  20.00

 

Phone:  15.00

 

Doctor visits insurance:  100.00 per month

 

Thats$815.00 so far!

 

 

$85.00 tip for the mom that is doing all the work!!!!!!

 

Grand total:  $900.00!

 

Thats where the money you are not paying is supposed to go Pete!  Now do you get it???????

 

 

 

 

If this weren't a rediculous list, that has very little to do with a child expenses. His half would still only be $450.00
 
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October 13, 2006, 9:08 am PDT

IT'S HURT THE HARD WORKING FAMILY

Dear Dr.Phil,

I watched this show and was upset. I was glad you kept it REAL when you said 'Stop having babies!' AND ' Get a JOB!' we are living in a time you need to work for every entertainment, Luxury, and trying to keep up with EVERYONE. There was a Case in Wabash,Indiana a dad who didn't pay Child Support, and the judge order him to sit under a sign 'I do not support my kids.'   I feel if a woman have children with Multiple dads and she file for Child Support for just one dad, that not fair, it shall be a law if You want Support then file for all not one. I feel that, she can't pick and choose which father she want to support her and her kids. Another thing these father holla for VISITATION Right, give them the visit to take the kids to the Dr, Dentist, Parent /Teacher meeting etc. let them experience the 'How' How will I get there? How will I pay this Medical bill? How involve am I with my kid work? I'm TIRED of these Part-time Daddy. Yes these ladies need to be careful, you are human just like the rest of us 'THINGS DO HAPPEN TO YOU TOO!!!' you not that Special.

I would love for me and my husband be on your show for being some hard working couple and get REWARDED for it.

 

 

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October 13, 2006, 9:09 am PDT

Apples and Oranges

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If the child is in your custody, yes, it appears she should pay. This is a legal option you can pursue.

 

You should do as you are legally obligated to whether you like it or not. If you find it unfair or not in the best interest of the child, seek legal council. If you can't afford that, mediation is certainly cheaper & in some places free. It just usually takes more effort & more swallowing of pride than some are willing to do, even if it is what is best for the child.

 

 

 

I pay child support. I'm the nc (non-custodial) parent. The child is physically with me the majority of the time, but my ex has legal custody and chooses to take the money yet continues not to provide for the child. I allow it to continue becasue it IS in the best interest of our child to be with me.
 
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October 13, 2006, 9:14 am PDT

Ridiculous list!

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If this weren't a rediculous list, that has very little to do with a child expenses. His half would still only be $450.00

Yes! The list was ridiculous. Left off the list was:

Haircuts

Birthday gifts for friends

Sports and/or activities for the child

School lunches

School books

And so much more!

 

When doing these figures, you cannot take the whole amount of the house, car, and phone and contribute that to the child. It costs a lot of money for one person to live in a house. It costs very little to add one person. It is the extras that children NEED that cost over and above!

 

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October 13, 2006, 9:44 am PDT

10/11 One Paycheck Away

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The story of the family in the rv is honestly one of the most troubling stories i've heard. How this man could quit his job to take care of a wife with panic disorder, be invited to your show with this  ridiculous story, and still manage to get a condo and new furniture out of it is beyond me. Its like rewarding  someone for being a "dead beat".  You tell me this man and his wife are incapable of working?? At the very least Mcdonald's is always hiring.  The kids are in school, they need no baby sitter.  I'm sure they draw some type of government welfare benefits.  I would love to see a follow up on this family in a year.  If his house payments are based on his wages, i'm sure he'll be working the minimal amount of time he can to get by, still using all the food banks and resources that is out in the community. I hope you can prove me wrong in a year, but i'm betting the bank its not going to happen  Its truely an injustice to all the people out there struggling to get by, those with cancer, lung, kidney diseases , true mental health diseases, ect..who struggle for their very existence every day,  to even compare that with a "panic disorder" (she wasn't panicing much while on the show accepting all you had to give her infront of millions of viewers ).The husband would at least have been working, he didn't need to quit his job.  You needed to give them advice, therapy and a list of perspective job offers. Yes , i'm sorry for the children, too bad the father doesn't care as much.  I don't mean to sound bitter, but this man and  his wife really annoyed me, and I'm a bit annoyed at Dr Phil for letting them get away with it. 

I have to agree. I also had the very same thought.. The wife/mother was doing quite well up there getting the free stuff! Maybe she was medicated? If that's so, she could do that while home when her husband is at work. If being alone exacerbates her condition, she could volunteer if not work. Then again, her condition was the reason given for her leaving her job in the first place. Too confusing for me, I guess.

 

Dr. Phil did "get real" about that with the couple. It's the fact that they will be rewarded in the end for Dr. Phil doing what was best for the kids that is agrivating. Yes, I think they threw away their lives at the expense of their children. I can also see how sometimes those who don't really deserve to get to reap some of the benefits of those who truly deserve it when they do recive them.

 

I pray this will be what the family needed to get a grip on themselves & that they will do better. I also hope the proper help is provided & the family uses it.

 
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