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Created on : Friday, July 01, 2005, 05:07:28 pm
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Cohabitation is sometimes a smart (and economical!) way to learn about your compatibilities before taking the plunge. How is living together working for you?

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July 6, 2008, 1:44 pm PDT

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Yes Redfeathers you make a good point, but what I have failed to bring into light is an email that she sent back in mid December.  She stated that she has no ties to where she is living at present, and if moving to be up here is the meaning of happiness for her she would put it in Gods hands.  We both seem to keep coming full circle back to where it all began.  She has stated many times that she wants to be married and have children.  Do you think it is fair to bring her into my life with all my baggage and mistakes?  And no I am not including my child into that statement, she is the most precious gift that the Lord has given me. But the problems with her mother are a bit much.  And yes my child has a stable environment at my home, she has not seen me date much over the six and a half years I have been divorced.  Although I am trying to set a good example for her in relationships since her mother as been married seven times. 
Well, then, I would wait and see what happens when she comes to visit you. I'm not going to get into the God aspect of things, because I don't believe in God...but I still would wait and see how things go when she comes to see you before making any decisions.
 
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July 6, 2008, 2:06 pm PDT

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Thank You Redfeather.  We are all entitled to our beliefs, and I will not tread on scared ground either. Thanks for your advice.
 
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July 17, 2008, 9:55 pm PDT

Parents won't let me live with boyfriend? I'm 25

I'm 25 years old but still depend on my parents financially. I'm still in school so they pay for everything. My parent's are supporting me moving to another state after I graduate and know my boyfriend is heading to the same place. The problem is, They will support me financially if I live alone. They are very traditional and conservative parents. It would be so much smarter and cheaper for both of us to live together where we are moving. New York or San Francisco. They adore him and I know we will eventually get married. How can I convince or encourage them to let me live with him without having them completely disown me and not support me financially? I know I would never be able to afford a place without their help. I don 't have a job and have never been forced to get one until I graduate? PLEASE HELP!
 
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July 18, 2008, 9:16 pm PDT

Are you serious????

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I'm 25 years old but still depend on my parents financially. I'm still in school so they pay for everything. My parent's are supporting me moving to another state after I graduate and know my boyfriend is heading to the same place. The problem is, They will support me financially if I live alone. They are very traditional and conservative parents. It would be so much smarter and cheaper for both of us to live together where we are moving. New York or San Francisco. They adore him and I know we will eventually get married. How can I convince or encourage them to let me live with him without having them completely disown me and not support me financially? I know I would never be able to afford a place without their help. I don 't have a job and have never been forced to get one until I graduate? PLEASE HELP!

Well you could live with your BF - but without your parents money.  Your parents are being more than generous.  I don't know of too many parents who would financially support their 25 year old child, period.

You've got 2 choice.  Abide by your parents rules since you will be essentially living off of them or live with your BF and risk putting the relationship you have with your parents in jeopardy and living in poverty.  NYC and SFO are incredibly expensive.  You've got no job and no experience and the job market nowadays is not good.  You are being given a gift may people would die for, don't push your luck!

 
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July 19, 2008, 3:10 pm PDT

I am at my last straw

 I am having a really hard time right now in my relationship. I do not know even where to start really i just need some advice i guess. I really love him and want things to work out but he is a drinker. He has had a horible life growing up and i felt so bad for him I figured when we started going out that he just needed some one is his life that cared about him and to love him. It is like he has two personalities. There is the sweet loving guy who would give you the world. Than he gets in these moods where he just has to party. He has provided me and my son a great life with nice things which he himself has never had. He does alot and makes sure that we have what we need to live our lives. When i first meant him he was drinking everyday,could not hold a job,and only cared about him self.I know that he has come along way the drinking is not that much any more he has been working for over a year and is really trying. When he starts drinking through it is a whole nother story. He gets loud and thinks he is the greatest thing that ever walked this earth he will not stop drinking until there is nothing left. He has been arrested for drinking and driving three times and is famous for taking off when he drinks. He gets every nasty and mood swings are horible one minute he will be laughing the next he will be calling you the nasty names in the world.He will lie about anything that he can. He has been trying i know he has but i do not know what to when he does has is break downs. All his friends are the same and he is around them the worse comes out

what do i do i am at my last straw

 
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July 19, 2008, 6:58 pm PDT

My experience

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 I am having a really hard time right now in my relationship. I do not know even where to start really i just need some advice i guess. I really love him and want things to work out but he is a drinker. He has had a horible life growing up and i felt so bad for him I figured when we started going out that he just needed some one is his life that cared about him and to love him. It is like he has two personalities. There is the sweet loving guy who would give you the world. Than he gets in these moods where he just has to party. He has provided me and my son a great life with nice things which he himself has never had. He does alot and makes sure that we have what we need to live our lives. When i first meant him he was drinking everyday,could not hold a job,and only cared about him self.I know that he has come along way the drinking is not that much any more he has been working for over a year and is really trying. When he starts drinking through it is a whole nother story. He gets loud and thinks he is the greatest thing that ever walked this earth he will not stop drinking until there is nothing left. He has been arrested for drinking and driving three times and is famous for taking off when he drinks. He gets every nasty and mood swings are horible one minute he will be laughing the next he will be calling you the nasty names in the world.He will lie about anything that he can. He has been trying i know he has but i do not know what to when he does has is break downs. All his friends are the same and he is around them the worse comes out

what do i do i am at my last straw

I am going to give you advice from experience.  I am the child of an alcoholic and dated 2 alcoholics for a total of 15 years.  I don't know if he is an alcoholic or a problem drinker but it really makes no difference due to the way in which alcohol affects his personality and actions.  Alcoholism is a disease.  There is no cure, complete abstinence from alcohol is the only way in which this guy even has a chance.  I'm surprised he was not ordered  to attend AA meetings by the courts.

His drinking affects everybody that is close to him including yourself and your child - nobody and I mean nobody escapes unharmed.  You can not control him or his drinking.  You can try all you want but this disease will control and ruin his life slowly but surely and if you choose to stay in this relationship your life as well as your childs will be ruined as well.   That I can guarantee you.

My advice to anybody in an alcoholic relationship is simple - leave. There can not be a loving, stable, secure and consistant relationship with a drunk.  You will never be his priority, the bottle will win every time.  Unless and until he decides to get sober for good your life with him will never change, in fact I bet it gets a whole lot worse.   Please do your research on alcoholism and go to AlAnon meetings for you.  You will see success stories of people who have survived and escaped and you cry for the people who have a parent, partner or friend who has been battling this disease.  They are numb inside, they have no self worth or self esteem left, they are depressed and scared, lonely and broken.  This is what this disease does to people who live or are close to people who have a drinking problem - they are at a complete loss and their lives have been turned upside down.  Just as yours will be should you decide to stay.

I can't even begin to tell you what living with an alcoholic does to a child.  It takes away their childhood.  Instead of being a child they grow up real fast worrying about the next drinking episode, they get depressed, blame themselves, destroys their self esteem, they live in fear and about 50 other negative emotions.   So for your child, do him/her a favor and be strong and let go of this guy before he tears your family apart. Don't allow yourself to be a victim, be a survivor and get out while you can.

 
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July 22, 2008, 3:36 am PDT

i'm losing my mind

I met my boyfriend in January. i had other relationships and so did he but we ended up getting close and concentrating on each other. in April he was robbed close to where i was saying at that time going to visit me and was stabbed in the face and neck. he went to hospital and we survived that. then i didn't want him to visit me ther because of his safety. this other time i was there with my friends on a week-end and he just arrived after i asked him not to go there and will see him back at his place later. that evening he was robbed again while opening the gate to my flat and was shot in the lag and had a fracture. 

He asked me to move in with him so that i can also be safe and so that i can help him while he had the crouches. he then bought a house and we both live there together. i didnt want to move in with him and i told him that but he convinced me. Now that i'm living there i'm not happy still. I love him with my life but the problem is that i don't trust him. I still get male friends calling me bt it's just friends and he doesnt mind coz i speak infront of him just to prove this. But when women call his phone it's always his ex girl friends and that bothers me. i asked him and he said there's nothing between them anymore and that it's normal for x lovers to keep in contact. but why do they call in the middle of the night because to me that is disrespectful. the other night he didnt answer his phone saying he didn't want to talk to his ex but this morning i found that when i'm not around he's the one who calls her. i don't think i can trust but i love so much and i feel like a failure because i'm not good enough for him to leave his past behind. and now he really wants to marry me in december but i don't want to marry someone i don't trust.unfortunately i 'v never been good in expressing myself to people and i'm having trouble making him understand my point of view and especially because he is 31 yrs and i'm 24 i sometimes feel as if he willthink i'm acting childish sometimes i just agree to whatever he says because i don't want him to think i'm being childish. i really love this man but i just have a lot of issues to resolve if any one can understand my problem please help.

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July 22, 2008, 12:40 pm PDT

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I'm 25 years old but still depend on my parents financially. I'm still in school so they pay for everything. My parent's are supporting me moving to another state after I graduate and know my boyfriend is heading to the same place. The problem is, They will support me financially if I live alone. They are very traditional and conservative parents. It would be so much smarter and cheaper for both of us to live together where we are moving. New York or San Francisco. They adore him and I know we will eventually get married. How can I convince or encourage them to let me live with him without having them completely disown me and not support me financially? I know I would never be able to afford a place without their help. I don 't have a job and have never been forced to get one until I graduate? PLEASE HELP!
no offense but i think if it were me i would land a job first off. Youre old enough to be supprting yourself. That way you would have more freedom moneywise and then u can make your own decison instead of mom and dad butting in all the time. hope i have helped and didnt make u mad in process,
 
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July 23, 2008, 6:49 pm PDT

He's a great manipulator

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I met my boyfriend in January. i had other relationships and so did he but we ended up getting close and concentrating on each other. in April he was robbed close to where i was saying at that time going to visit me and was stabbed in the face and neck. he went to hospital and we survived that. then i didn't want him to visit me ther because of his safety. this other time i was there with my friends on a week-end and he just arrived after i asked him not to go there and will see him back at his place later. that evening he was robbed again while opening the gate to my flat and was shot in the lag and had a fracture. 

He asked me to move in with him so that i can also be safe and so that i can help him while he had the crouches. he then bought a house and we both live there together. i didnt want to move in with him and i told him that but he convinced me. Now that i'm living there i'm not happy still. I love him with my life but the problem is that i don't trust him. I still get male friends calling me bt it's just friends and he doesnt mind coz i speak infront of him just to prove this. But when women call his phone it's always his ex girl friends and that bothers me. i asked him and he said there's nothing between them anymore and that it's normal for x lovers to keep in contact. but why do they call in the middle of the night because to me that is disrespectful. the other night he didnt answer his phone saying he didn't want to talk to his ex but this morning i found that when i'm not around he's the one who calls her. i don't think i can trust but i love so much and i feel like a failure because i'm not good enough for him to leave his past behind. and now he really wants to marry me in december but i don't want to marry someone i don't trust.unfortunately i 'v never been good in expressing myself to people and i'm having trouble making him understand my point of view and especially because he is 31 yrs and i'm 24 i sometimes feel as if he willthink i'm acting childish sometimes i just agree to whatever he says because i don't want him to think i'm being childish. i really love this man but i just have a lot of issues to resolve if any one can understand my problem please help.

Spokazi Thabi (south Africa)

He may be older than you, but certainly not wiser!   You sound like a smart woman who knows what she wants and doesn't want.  I'd feel exactly how you do regarding the ex's.  It's downright disrespectful and if he cared for you and your feelings he would have respected your wishes and stopped communication knowing that it hurt you and your relationship.  Kudos to you on that one!  You are not a failure because he chooses to stay in contact with these women, he does it because he can and you put up with it.  He does it because it feeds his male ego. 

To even consider marrying this guy is ridiculous and it's important that he gets a clear NO from you and the reasons why.  You don't trust him, you are not happy, moving in with him was a mistake and so is dating a man who has no morals, values or character.  Unless you learn to stand up for yourself real soon, this guy is gonna have you barefoot and pregnant before you know it.

Trust your gut instincts and take control of your life.  Stop allowing him to convince you to do things you don't want to do.  You are smarter than he is but your're just letting him manipulate the situation.  Move out and get back on your own!  Good luck

 
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July 23, 2008, 9:27 pm PDT

Living Together

I've posted about my dad and his unbridled use of porn when anyone in the house can see him, but things are getting worse with him, and this time it's not involving the porn.

 

I work, my boyfriend works and pays my parents rent every month. I go to school and so does he. I'm trying to get a second job right now, and my boyfriend drives me places because my car blew it's engine and I finally had to sell it to a junkyard. We take out the trash every Wednesday, and the recyclables, we clean the bathrooms, and whenever my parents go out of town, we get the mail and watch the house while they are gone. This week in fact, they as well as my sister and her husband, are out of town and my boyfriend and I are watching the house as well as my sister's pets. A dog, three kittens, a hamster and a tarantula. I have been trying to find an affordable place to live for a while, and we almost did, were it not for the landlord actually doing something illegal, we would be out already. I also just rearanged my room entirely by myself and cleaned and vacuumed it.

 

My dad ignores all this that we do. One day, I was sitting in the same room with him, and someone had left a fruit-snack wrapper on the desk. He assumed it was mine (it wasn't) and told me to "Stop leaving your crap everywhere." When I told him it wasn't mine, he (and this is the first time I've ever heard him refer to my mom this way, he's always refered to her as "mom".) he said "It ain't my wife's!"  I said it probably belonged to my boyfriend, which he said that meant that it was mine. Then he went on to tell me that I'm supposed to clean up after him. I'm not his little house-wife, and he's a big boy so he can, and does, clean up his own messes.

 

My dad doesn't stop there though. He goes on to tell me that my boyfriend and I "Piss him off" and that if he had his way, we would be out on the streets. He says that we never do anything around the house, we never work and we never clean. That's not true, but at this point there's no convincing him. He says that the only reason we still live here is because of my mom, but even now he's pushing her to throw us out.

 

When my car started showing signs of blowing out, I said that I wanted to sell it so that I could get a new car (the one that blew was beyond repair). My dad said that he would put some sealer in the cracked area of the engine, which he did, and told me that it would buy me about six months time and I should wait to save up money. I didn't want to, but I did because my boyfriend, my mom, and my dad advised me to.

 

Turns out, the car blew through the sealer in about a week. I told my dad and he said "I told you it wasn't worth fixing." This is NOT what he said. I tell him that he did tell me to wait to save money. His response? This : "Oh HELL NO. I didn't say that! Don't you DARE try to turn this around on me!" and hangs up. The fact that he tried to tell me "I told you so" when I was the one who said it wasn't worth it made me angry. My dad may have been a mechanic for 25 years, but that doesn't mean that he can just talk to me like I'm an idiot, and then get mad at me for something he did. This isn't the first time he's talked to me this way. He's actually talked trash about me in front of my boyfriend...when I was sitting their watching him. It was like he didn't even care that I was there, or just thinks me to stupid to pick up on that. Like he and my boyfriend are smarter than me for some reason.

 

The last two times I've talked to my dad on the phone, he's sworn at me and hung up. Both my mother and I have noticed that he has become increasingly stubborn over the past few months, it's almost impossible to talk to him without him telling me that I'm wrong in some way, or that I don't know what I'm talking about, no matter what it is. The last three times he told me (and my mother) that we were dead wrong about something, it turned out to be just the opposite. Him being wrong and we being right. He'll raise his voice to near yelling levels sometimes on subjects that aren't that big of a deal. Like if flavored water or soda is better for you. He insists that soda and flavored water are the same. Upon investigation, my mom found out he's wrong and we were right. Either way, it was nothing to get into an argument about. Neither my mother or I were yelling about that by the way.

 

My dad didn't used to be this way. He used to talk about how proud he was of me, and how he had big expectations. He said I would go to college ( I am...) he said how great I did in school and how he knew I would go on to big things. I'm about to transfer to a UC within the next year, I have a 3.76, and I'm simultaniously building up a fallback career (my first career choice is a bit of an unforgiving industry...plus it's just good to have a plan anyway.) Now I never hear any of that anymore. I just hear how much I piss him off and how much he wants me out and how he wouldn't care if I were on the streets. I don't know what happened.

 

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