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Remember when you were in school and had a harmless crush on your favorite teacher? Today, there are frequent headlines of teachers who are turning these schoolboy fantasies into sexual realities. When 24-year-old Janelle lost her virginity to a 15-year-old student, she says she "wasn't thinking about the law," and she was "in love." Now, she's a convicted sex offender who faces up to 30 years in prison. Janelle's attorney says she was treated unfairly. What does Dr. Phil think? Then meet Owen, the ex-husband of teacher Debra Lafave. Debra made international headlines when she was caught having sex with a 14-year-old student and her attorney suggested she was "too pretty to go to jail." Owen has since divorced Debra, remarried and written a book about being in the center of a media blitz. And, 15-year-old Jason says he had a love affair with his 26-year-old gym teacher, although she denies it, and he says he still has feelings for her. Jason's mom says that he was preyed upon, and she fears he will never recover from it. Talk about the show here.

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October 16, 2006, 8:11 am CDT

10/19 Teacher Caught in the Act

Quote From: jojobeaner

I agree too.  My question is why is a 15 year old pursuing an older woman?  We've got to tackle these issues from the other side of the coin.  Was this kid molested, most likely.  Was this child exposed to pornography-most likely.  We have a whole generation of kids that don't know what sex was designed for.  What we have is a whole generation of kids being fed a bunch of lies about their sexuality and the other sex. 

 

There is no shame anymore... Just watch any of these raunchy talk shows, like Jerry Springer where people go on TV and bare all their unhealthy garbage who seem to have no boundaries in any areas of their lives, oh how about the internet,  have you checked out myspace.com lately, there is pornography in abundance for our children to view, how about our TV shows, videos, movies. 

 

How do you cook a frog alive? Put him in cold water and turn the heat up slowly.  That is what we are doing to our children.  We have desensitized them from life, they have no shame, no guilt, don't listen to their conscience.  It's like Sodom and Gomorrah in the Bible.  I'm not saying all kids are like this but you get my point, I hope.  We are all being boiled alive and don't even know it.  Turn off the internet, turn off the TV, stop watching the violent movies and see a change in our society. 

I agree, kids today don't have respect for their own bodies, let alone respect for others. There is just way too much garbage out there and a lot of parents do not monitor what their children watch, observe ont he internet and some of them don't even know their kids friends, contacts, we are living in this latch key society where kids are pawned off on others or left home alone to defend for themselves. Now, I am not putting down any 'good" programs or the working parents, ia m putting down the criteria that pparents and society has set up for the kids now days.  It is not working, kids need to be home having family time, learning to do good things in life, learning skills and all, not spending all their time in front of the tv, at a friends house playing video/computer  games, whatever!

In my house hold, my girls only watch their playhouse disney shows, morning time (if we are not doing other things), they play on educational websites, they stay in ther own yard, viewing distant for me, (they are 3 and 5) They were out playing several days ago and wondered off five doors down and I made them come home, yes, they were upset because the kids they were playing with were there, the youngest mind you, just turned 4, lives next door to me and no one out watching him, no way amd I gonna let my girls foolw that pattern. My oldest goes to school wants to go to latch key but not happening. There are are other things I could mention and yes, I have been accused (mostly by a bunch of strangers on these boards,LOL) of over protecting my kids, of not allowing them to explore, I say WHATEVER! GET OVER IT) My kids are happy, nourished fun loving and very socialable and they would much rather go out side to play, go ot he park, the library, to a family gathering then to sit and watch tv all day, they would much rather play then to sit and play a video game all day, my oldest loves school and interacting with friends and even though she wants to go to latchkey, she is excited to see her little sister and can't wait to get home to play and when daddy gets home, both my girls drop everything to spend time with him, that's the way I believe thins should be, family first, priorities straight and kids respectred and loved, when adults start steeping up to the platee and taking responsibility for kids wellbeing and teaching and guiding them ina positive way, then kids will grow up doing the samt hing and any one who crosses the line in abusing a child, deserve to pay the consequences, get the help they need or whatever, but the consequences need to be paid.

The pretty lady, she really isn't all that pretty, her attitude and actions prove that. it doesn't matter what a person looks like from the outside, it is what's in the inside that counts and that is what we are teaching my kids. Just yesterday, we had a talk with my 5 year old about looks and attitudes and even SHE is getting it. maybe that lawyer needs to take some lessons from kindergarteners. it's not looks that keep you out of jail, it is your actions..................................
 
October 16, 2006, 8:13 am CDT

10/19 Teacher Caught in the Act

Quote From: jojobeaner

IIf you agree with what I am saying then why would you make the comment "should be messing around with guys my age, if she doesn't want to be married anymore" what do you mean by messing around?  Please clarify this? 

Though I don't think any one should be messing around really, unless it is with their own guy, I think this poster meant to lay off of kids and go after some one her own age. 
 
October 16, 2006, 9:06 am CDT

10/19 Teacher Caught in the Act

Quote From: jojobeaner

I agree too.  My question is why is a 15 year old pursuing an older woman?  We've got to tackle these issues from the other side of the coin.  Was this kid molested, most likely.  Was this child exposed to pornography-most likely.  We have a whole generation of kids that don't know what sex was designed for.  What we have is a whole generation of kids being fed a bunch of lies about their sexuality and the other sex. 

 

There is no shame anymore... Just watch any of these raunchy talk shows, like Jerry Springer where people go on TV and bare all their unhealthy garbage who seem to have no boundaries in any areas of their lives, oh how about the internet,  have you checked out myspace.com lately, there is pornography in abundance for our children to view, how about our TV shows, videos, movies. 

 

How do you cook a frog alive? Put him in cold water and turn the heat up slowly.  That is what we are doing to our children.  We have desensitized them from life, they have no shame, no guilt, don't listen to their conscience.  It's like Sodom and Gomorrah in the Bible.  I'm not saying all kids are like this but you get my point, I hope.  We are all being boiled alive and don't even know it.  Turn off the internet, turn off the TV, stop watching the violent movies and see a change in our society. 

Thank you!  In reading all the posts regarding this issue, I was beginning to wonder the same thing. Why is a 15 year old hitting on an older woman? Obviously, he thought was ok to do.  Where did he learn that from?  Things are twisted now days. Like you have said, just  take one look at the internet, music videos, tv programs and movies. It is all learned behavior.  Children are not born with wanting to participate in high rish sex. They have to get the idea in their head and then entertain the idea before they go and act it out, amen. 

Then of course what posesses an older woman to take the "bait" of a young man hitting on her? Shoo, that's a whole other can of money, mother and sex. 

 

 
October 16, 2006, 9:18 am CDT

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Quote From: jojobeaner

Please don't be upset if she didn't report this teacher, maybe she was afraid to.  Adults can be intimidating when you are that age.  My daughter had a teacher who just didn't like her and she went out of her way to make my daughter's life miserable, I could never figure out why?  My daughter a straight A-student who loved school and was well liked by all of her teachers except this one.  Who knows?  there are some real strange teachers out there, just like there are some real strange people in all professions.  I think most schools know who the problem teachers are but they don't do anything about, they just keep shuffling them from school to school and one day something like this happens.  I think the schools know who their problem teachers are and what the problems are, they just like to sweep things under the rug and pretend like there isn't a problem.  Then something like this happens and everyone is upset!  When in reality everyone knew about it, but the school didn't do anything.  Remember when you were in school everyone had a reputation, that included the teachers and students knew what teachers were strange and who to avoid. 

 

This problem is not going to get any better, in fact it is going to get worse.  Why we have a generation that has the mindset, "if you think it's right for you then it's right".  Our kids are taught to have tolerance and acceptance of all kinds of relationships.  I have even heard about how kindergartners are now being taught that there all kinds of acceptable relationships which include homosexuality.  Is it any wonder that this new kind of relationship should not be tolerated. These kinds of ideas are slippery slopes that lead to all kinds deviant behaviors to be considered to be acceptable.  There is not one standard of truth and that is the real problem and until everyone has the same standard of what right and wrong is-- this problem will not change. 

 

I'm not upset, I understand that many people who are abused or taken advantage of in horrid ways have a hard time coming forward.

I was simply pointing out that this kind of thing being on the news and being in the spot light might help empower some otherwise scared kids.
 
October 16, 2006, 9:22 am CDT

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I think some of you are so far removed from being a teen you forget what it's like. If you are a teen boy and you have a pretty teacher who shows you attention you are going to think you are "mature" enough to handle this.

Kids do not have adult brains no matter how much we try to project that onto them. Children aren't "born with wanting to participate in high risk sex"....no, but once their bodies pass puberty they can easily be confused and swayed to have high risk sex...ESPECIALLY with an authority figure!!! Someone who is there to teach and tell them what to do.

I am starting to get the feeling you guys are trying to put some sort of blame on the victim here...I hope I'm wrong about that. 
 
October 16, 2006, 10:09 am CDT

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 WOW, maybe I should have made a pass at my grade 5 teacher when I had the chance.
 
October 16, 2006, 10:18 am CDT

10/19 Teacher Caught in the Act

Quote From: purplepenny

I think some of you are so far removed from being a teen you forget what it's like. If you are a teen boy and you have a pretty teacher who shows you attention you are going to think you are "mature" enough to handle this.

Kids do not have adult brains no matter how much we try to project that onto them. Children aren't "born with wanting to participate in high risk sex"....no, but once their bodies pass puberty they can easily be confused and swayed to have high risk sex...ESPECIALLY with an authority figure!!! Someone who is there to teach and tell them what to do.

I am starting to get the feeling you guys are trying to put some sort of blame on the victim here...I hope I'm wrong about that. 
I agree, it is up to us adults to protect and teach the kids right from wrong, I personally am tiredof victims getting the blamed for being abused, yes there are some people out there who thrives on being the victim, those people are sick I believe and need therapy/help to get them to understand that they are victimized but adults do need to take responsibility for their actions and stop the nonesense, preying on kids is just right out wrong and sick, they do not need to be working around kids, I know I wouldn't weant this lady around my children, I have a sex offended in my own family and he doesn't dare come around my home because he knows his life would be miserable in my home, believe me, I am here to protect my kids, not to se tthem up and no way would I blame them for being a victim, this is why there are so many of these peopel out there, they have too many rights while the real victims are fighting to overcome the garbage.
 
October 16, 2006, 10:20 am CDT

10/19 Teacher Caught in the Act

Quote From: purplepenny

I'm not upset, I understand that many people who are abused or taken advantage of in horrid ways have a hard time coming forward.

I was simply pointing out that this kind of thing being on the news and being in the spot light might help empower some otherwise scared kids.
yes, I think this stuff needs to be as publicized as possible and the one abusing the kids need to have their faces inthe media so other parents will know who to protect their kids from. As long as stuff is hidden, kids will not know their rights................
 
October 16, 2006, 10:21 am CDT

10/19 Teacher Caught in the Act

Quote From: decou22

Thank you!  In reading all the posts regarding this issue, I was beginning to wonder the same thing. Why is a 15 year old hitting on an older woman? Obviously, he thought was ok to do.  Where did he learn that from?  Things are twisted now days. Like you have said, just  take one look at the internet, music videos, tv programs and movies. It is all learned behavior.  Children are not born with wanting to participate in high rish sex. They have to get the idea in their head and then entertain the idea before they go and act it out, amen. 

Then of course what posesses an older woman to take the "bait" of a young man hitting on her? Shoo, that's a whole other can of money, mother and sex. 

 

Not a young man, A CHILD and this woman knew that and she abused her authority position, SHE belongs in jail.
 
October 16, 2006, 12:17 pm CDT

10/19 Teacher Caught in the Act

Quote From: jettav

Not a young man, A CHILD and this woman knew that and she abused her authority position, SHE belongs in jail.
Thank you, exactly Jetta.  I think some women are so cynical and jaded against men they have a hard time seeing a male at ANY age as a victim.

There is a whole school of though out there of people who think all sexual abuse victims are actually the perpetrators, seducing their abusers into their crimes....sick huh?
 
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