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Topic : 10/19 Teacher Caught in the Act

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Created on : Thursday, October 12, 2006, 06:04:35 pm
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Remember when you were in school and had a harmless crush on your favorite teacher? Today, there are frequent headlines of teachers who are turning these schoolboy fantasies into sexual realities. When 24-year-old Janelle lost her virginity to a 15-year-old student, she says she "wasn't thinking about the law," and she was "in love." Now, she's a convicted sex offender who faces up to 30 years in prison. Janelle's attorney says she was treated unfairly. What does Dr. Phil think? Then meet Owen, the ex-husband of teacher Debra Lafave. Debra made international headlines when she was caught having sex with a 14-year-old student and her attorney suggested she was "too pretty to go to jail." Owen has since divorced Debra, remarried and written a book about being in the center of a media blitz. And, 15-year-old Jason says he had a love affair with his 26-year-old gym teacher, although she denies it, and he says he still has feelings for her. Jason's mom says that he was preyed upon, and she fears he will never recover from it. Talk about the show here.

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October 19, 2006, 9:09 am PDT

There is a Diffence

Janelle... Looked truly sorry for her Actions,

She Fell In Love With Her Teen aged Student

 It was Defiantly A Matter of Her Maturity Level and Bad Judgement.

She Was Feeling Nothing But Remorse.

And I Believe She Will Never Make A Huge Mistake Like That Again .

On The Other Hand The OTHER  Woman Should Be

Locked Up Because They Are Preditors and It Made Them

Feel Gratified In Some Sick Way To Be with Those Young Boys.

Maybe boosting there sexuality Level and Feeling Part Of the

Student Body ( literally) Woman Don't have that sence of Morality

That They Had  When I was Growing Up Nothing Is Off limits today.

To Much To Little To Late The U.S.A. Is A Mess...

                         

      Dr. Phil For President !!!!

 
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October 19, 2006, 9:41 am PDT

Doctor Phil Show.

Act Caught Doctor In Phil Teacher The. Nice try Doctor Phil but I think that High Middle School-----

School Teacher sure not have sex at all beside they could get in to trouble that way. See you------

today and tomorrow Afternoon. Sincerley Your. Russell Vlaanderen.---------------------------------------

 
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October 19, 2006, 10:15 am PDT

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I really don't think you can compare Povich to Dr Phil....I'm sorry.

Dr Phil, while still being a show to make money, and that is why gets sensational stories, he is still a health professional and his advice is valid and his goal is education. He does follow ups and offers counceling to many of his guests. Maury Povich isn't in it for anything other than money.  Sorry, but I'm sure he'd even admit that.

I like your spin of calling the boy nearly 16 in order to make this seem less bad, but 15 is still a kid, still impulsive, still impressionable and still unable to apreciate the consequences of much of his actions.

He was taken adavantage of by an authority figure. I know many people have this attitude that post puberty males cannot be damaged by sex in anyway...but that's just sexist.

I wasn't trying to compare Dr. Phil to Povich.  I understand that they are total opposites professionally, but what I am trying to say is that this entire subject creates such controversy and headlines that I constantly wonder how Povich can air shows that feature girls who became pregnant or had sex at ages 13 or even younger and no authority steps in and prosecutes the males for rape, etc.  Doesn't anyone but me notice that never is the subject of rape or underage criminal acts is brought up on these shows - I know they are edited, but these are crimes against underage girls and NO ONE ever speaks out on this side of the issue.  WHY?

 

As for today's show, I still feel the 24 year old woman is emotionally backward and she felt she was in love, in her extremely limited life experience.  And I still believe that the boy, one month from age 16, knew what he was doing.  He also felt there was nothing wrong is having sex with this woman - why?

 

Thanks for letting me share.

 
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October 19, 2006, 10:28 am PDT

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I wasn't trying to compare Dr. Phil to Povich.  I understand that they are total opposites professionally, but what I am trying to say is that this entire subject creates such controversy and headlines that I constantly wonder how Povich can air shows that feature girls who became pregnant or had sex at ages 13 or even younger and no authority steps in and prosecutes the males for rape, etc.  Doesn't anyone but me notice that never is the subject of rape or underage criminal acts is brought up on these shows - I know they are edited, but these are crimes against underage girls and NO ONE ever speaks out on this side of the issue.  WHY?

 

As for today's show, I still feel the 24 year old woman is emotionally backward and she felt she was in love, in her extremely limited life experience.  And I still believe that the boy, one month from age 16, knew what he was doing.  He also felt there was nothing wrong is having sex with this woman - why?

 

Thanks for letting me share.

Sorry if I came off strong, I do that sometimes.

I'm not sure why the police don't (maybe they do, I'm not sure) act on some of the guests on Maury's show...

I know that if Dr Phil thinks a crime has been commited he'll notify authorities himself, I have heard of him doing it more than once.

As for the boy thinking there was nothing wrong with having sex with his 24 year old teacher? He's a kid...they often do things for the wrong reasons.
 
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October 19, 2006, 10:57 am PDT

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It is a KNOWN fact that if a man is accused of touching a female student.  he will be arrested without question.  in addition he will have to await arraignment before resting his head on his own bedroom pillow again.  an the minute the DNA comes back that says he fathered that teen girls child.  he is looking at 15-25 behind bars.  now in OHIO where a female teachers ADMITS to having sex with a student, is questioned.  she confirms that she's prego with that students child.  there is a court date, where the case is suspended, pending the birth of her baby.  after the DNA comes back that this 14 yr old BOY fathered her child, she gets community control and a fine.  what the heck?  i feel the courts should punish the crime, not the gender of the suspect in question.  no one is too pretty, too sexy or to rich to serve the time for the crime.  if you did it, you should pay... no questions asked.  an if DNA proves it, there should not even be another court date needed!
I so agree, you do the crime you do the time pretty or not, i have seen some pretty handsome men that was arrested. Is it because that in prison rape of children are the lowest  of lows & the predator now becomes the playmates of the prisoners, Rape is Rape weather it be to a boy or girl. Every single sexual predator out there should be in hard prison, I am soooo tired of hearing about these so called teachers getting away with just a slap
 
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October 19, 2006, 11:14 am PDT

Teacher Student Relationships

I am in no way defending the act of the teachers who pray on young students... I think it is morally wrong, and not ok regardless of the reason. But when dealing with adult students i think is a different situation. Both involoved are ADULTS. I myself was an adult student, and my male teacher and I became very close as friends throughout our semester. But at the end of the year and I graduated and he accepted another teaching assigment, the fear of what would happen to his job if anyone saw us outside of school, caused our friendship to end. I was 23 and he was 30. We see eachother on occassion  and we will talk and see how the other is doing, but the bond and closeness we once shared is over shadowed by fear of what would happen to his job if someone saw us. we were JUST FRIENDS!!!! NO SEX, NO TOUCHING, Just talking.  Because there is so much presure on teachers not to get personal they are affraid to have any type of humain contact with their students. Due to that fact, I lost a friend that i trusted and cared about. Some teachers do cross the line, with young students,  but as far as im concerned that is more of a mental issue for the teacher as well as an ethical issue. But when dealing with adult teacher student relationships( anyone over the age of 18) I dont think the laws, school boards, and other peoples views should not be an issue.
 
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October 19, 2006, 11:16 am PDT

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 Its awfully wrong for a teacher to feel that way about his or student. reminds me such of one time a florida teacher had sex with her student and the charges were dropped. what a shame huh?. 

 
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October 19, 2006, 12:00 pm PDT

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I will defend Janelle to the day I die. She IS my friend. Janelle and I taught Reading together last year in the public school system . You may not agree with what I have to say,  but that is purely your ignorance to the situation. Yes, Janelle committed a crime. But, to attack her personally and say things like she is a rapist, is wrong. That is not the case. Janelle made a mistake, but does that mean she is a bad person? I know her. I have spent time with her. She is one of the nicest people you will ever meet. To see her in this position  breaks my heart. I can tell you, she is a better person than many of you. You can sit there and judge her for her mistake, but what about you? Her mistake is a big mistake, but why is she the only one to blame? What about that 15 year old boy..who, by the way, turned 16 during this fiasco. So, this 16 year boy is totally innocent? I think not. 

 

Janelle IS a good person who made a mistake. It doesn't mean she is a sexual predator, a rapist, or just a sick human being. SHE MADE A MISTAKE. A mistake that gives the public the right to throw obscene and rude comments in her face. Well, may your lifetime of mistakes one day be thrown in your face or put on display for the public to defame you.

 

Janelle WILL rise above this. I know that the time she spends paying for this crime will make her a stronger person.

I applaud your defense of your friend;  you stand by her no matter what.  Not all of us have many people in our lives that would do that or would be willing to be that faithful.

 

I have no idea how the mind of a person operates unless they have the same opinions that I do.   I do not understand why she thought that sex with a minor was appropriate.  Maybe her starvation for feeling loved at the time clouded her judgement.  I'm sure that , at the time, she did not think that she was doing anything wrong.  Somehow she was able to justify it to herself  that maybe she was not wrong because it was, to her, love and not just sex. 

 

As a person who is bi-polar and was molested many times as a child and teenager, I do not believe that this can be classified as a "mistake".  She acted impulsively but she did not just fall on top of him.    Bi-polar people sometimes do act impulsively and I've done some things myself that I'm not proud of.  I've put myself in some very questionable sexual situations (some considered dangerous) but never with a minor.  She did something wrong and there are consequences.  I will not attack her as a person because I do not know her but I do believe that she should be accountable for her actions.

 

When I was 19 I went with a guy (off-duty cop) to a closed VFW to play pool.  He raped me.  My accountability with this is that I willing went with him to a place that I knew we would be alone.    I put myself in the situation but HE was the one responsible for the rape.  The young man may have put himself in the situation but it was her responsibility to not take action.

 

My heart really goes out to her family and friends who I'm sure are devastated by this.  Keep doing what you're doing and be supportive of her.  It does not mean that you approve of what she did, but believe in her as a person.

 

 

 

 

 
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October 19, 2006, 12:12 pm PDT

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I will defend Janelle to the day I die. She IS my friend. Janelle and I taught Reading together last year in the public school system . You may not agree with what I have to say,  but that is purely your ignorance to the situation. Yes, Janelle committed a crime. But, to attack her personally and say things like she is a rapist, is wrong. That is not the case. Janelle made a mistake, but does that mean she is a bad person? I know her. I have spent time with her. She is one of the nicest people you will ever meet. To see her in this position  breaks my heart. I can tell you, she is a better person than many of you. You can sit there and judge her for her mistake, but what about you? Her mistake is a big mistake, but why is she the only one to blame? What about that 15 year old boy..who, by the way, turned 16 during this fiasco. So, this 16 year boy is totally innocent? I think not. 

 

Janelle IS a good person who made a mistake. It doesn't mean she is a sexual predator, a rapist, or just a sick human being. SHE MADE A MISTAKE. A mistake that gives the public the right to throw obscene and rude comments in her face. Well, may your lifetime of mistakes one day be thrown in your face or put on display for the public to defame you.

 

Janelle WILL rise above this. I know that the time she spends paying for this crime will make her a stronger person.

So let's see what we have here:

-We have her friend defending her, that's no surprise, so I have no doubt you aren't bias about the situation.

-You say she's better than some people on this board, yet you don't know anyone here...so I don't know how you could possibly say that.

-You are blaming the VICTIM in this case. (Did you see the boy at the end of the show whose life was messed up by a similar situation?) That's disturbing that you think you can blame a kid for his being abused and taken advantage of.

-You minimize her crime by repeatedly calling it a "mistake".

-You don't seem to understand the fact that she's a sex offender and that makes it necessary for the public to know about her.

-I hope she does learn from this, but I also hope she isn't in charge of kids anymore. Ever again.  It's not her fault that sex offenders repeat their crimes...that is the way it is. So forgive me for not being naive and trusting of someone simply because they SAY they've "learned"...
 
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October 19, 2006, 12:14 pm PDT

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I applaud your defense of your friend;  you stand by her no matter what.  Not all of us have many people in our lives that would do that or would be willing to be that faithful.

 

I have no idea how the mind of a person operates unless they have the same opinions that I do.   I do not understand why she thought that sex with a minor was appropriate.  Maybe her starvation for feeling loved at the time clouded her judgement.  I'm sure that , at the time, she did not think that she was doing anything wrong.  Somehow she was able to justify it to herself  that maybe she was not wrong because it was, to her, love and not just sex. 

 

As a person who is bi-polar and was molested many times as a child and teenager, I do not believe that this can be classified as a "mistake".  She acted impulsively but she did not just fall on top of him.    Bi-polar people sometimes do act impulsively and I've done some things myself that I'm not proud of.  I've put myself in some very questionable sexual situations (some considered dangerous) but never with a minor.  She did something wrong and there are consequences.  I will not attack her as a person because I do not know her but I do believe that she should be accountable for her actions.

 

When I was 19 I went with a guy (off-duty cop) to a closed VFW to play pool.  He raped me.  My accountability with this is that I willing went with him to a place that I knew we would be alone.    I put myself in the situation but HE was the one responsible for the rape.  The young man may have put himself in the situation but it was her responsibility to not take action.

 

My heart really goes out to her family and friends who I'm sure are devastated by this.  Keep doing what you're doing and be supportive of her.  It does not mean that you approve of what she did, but believe in her as a person.

 

 

 

 

Incase you didn't notice she put blame on the her friends abuse victim.
 
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