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Created on : Thursday, October 12, 2006, 06:04:35 pm
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Remember when you were in school and had a harmless crush on your favorite teacher? Today, there are frequent headlines of teachers who are turning these schoolboy fantasies into sexual realities. When 24-year-old Janelle lost her virginity to a 15-year-old student, she says she "wasn't thinking about the law," and she was "in love." Now, she's a convicted sex offender who faces up to 30 years in prison. Janelle's attorney says she was treated unfairly. What does Dr. Phil think? Then meet Owen, the ex-husband of teacher Debra Lafave. Debra made international headlines when she was caught having sex with a 14-year-old student and her attorney suggested she was "too pretty to go to jail." Owen has since divorced Debra, remarried and written a book about being in the center of a media blitz. And, 15-year-old Jason says he had a love affair with his 26-year-old gym teacher, although she denies it, and he says he still has feelings for her. Jason's mom says that he was preyed upon, and she fears he will never recover from it. Talk about the show here.

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October 17, 2006, 12:36 pm PDT

10/19 Teacher Caught in the Act

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I agree, kids today don't have respect for their own bodies, let alone respect for others. There is just way too much garbage out there and a lot of parents do not monitor what their children watch, observe ont he internet and some of them don't even know their kids friends, contacts, we are living in this latch key society where kids are pawned off on others or left home alone to defend for themselves. Now, I am not putting down any 'good" programs or the working parents, ia m putting down the criteria that pparents and society has set up for the kids now days.  It is not working, kids need to be home having family time, learning to do good things in life, learning skills and all, not spending all their time in front of the tv, at a friends house playing video/computer  games, whatever!

In my house hold, my girls only watch their playhouse disney shows, morning time (if we are not doing other things), they play on educational websites, they stay in ther own yard, viewing distant for me, (they are 3 and 5) They were out playing several days ago and wondered off five doors down and I made them come home, yes, they were upset because the kids they were playing with were there, the youngest mind you, just turned 4, lives next door to me and no one out watching him, no way amd I gonna let my girls foolw that pattern. My oldest goes to school wants to go to latch key but not happening. There are are other things I could mention and yes, I have been accused (mostly by a bunch of strangers on these boards,LOL) of over protecting my kids, of not allowing them to explore, I say WHATEVER! GET OVER IT) My kids are happy, nourished fun loving and very socialable and they would much rather go out side to play, go ot he park, the library, to a family gathering then to sit and watch tv all day, they would much rather play then to sit and play a video game all day, my oldest loves school and interacting with friends and even though she wants to go to latchkey, she is excited to see her little sister and can't wait to get home to play and when daddy gets home, both my girls drop everything to spend time with him, that's the way I believe thins should be, family first, priorities straight and kids respectred and loved, when adults start steeping up to the platee and taking responsibility for kids wellbeing and teaching and guiding them ina positive way, then kids will grow up doing the samt hing and any one who crosses the line in abusing a child, deserve to pay the consequences, get the help they need or whatever, but the consequences need to be paid.

The pretty lady, she really isn't all that pretty, her attitude and actions prove that. it doesn't matter what a person looks like from the outside, it is what's in the inside that counts and that is what we are teaching my kids. Just yesterday, we had a talk with my 5 year old about looks and attitudes and even SHE is getting it. maybe that lawyer needs to take some lessons from kindergarteners. it's not looks that keep you out of jail, it is your actions..................................

I think what you are doing is good.  I think there is a balance when it comes to overprotecting our children, if we go too far we don't give them the opportunity to learn from their failures and gain the confidence they need to grow into adulthood.  But if we don't protect them from all the ugly influences out there then we are not doing our job either.  We will never be "perfect' parents, there will always be "something" we didn't do exactly right and believe me they will let you know what that "something" is when they get older.  But in the end if we have raised responsible children who can go out and make decisions that lead to the betterment (is this a word) of the world around them then we have done a good job and that sounds like what you are doing, I praise you for the priorities in your life.  I myself raised a daughter who is now 20 and on her own, she is not or has not been in any trouble, does not do drugs.  She is responsible, she works, she lives on her own, goes to college and does very well in her life.  The end result-she is responsible, makes good decisions and respects others.  Yes, I still help her out, but she doesn't expect it, she appreciates it. 

 

I too was told I was "too" overprotective.  Believe me, it pays off later.  I was the parent who didn't allow my daughter to do "all" those things other parents let their children do.  Just hang in there and keep doing what you are doing!!! 

 
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October 17, 2006, 2:41 pm PDT

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Too pretty to go to jail??????????????????get over it!!!!!!! you do the crime, you molest, rape, prey upon a child, you belong behind bars!!!!!!!!!! I don't care who you are and whAt you look like, goes to show that looks  can be deceiving, this attorney needs to get real or get out of the business.
If you aren't "too pretty" to do the crime, you aren't "too pretty" to do the time. 24-year-old Janelle "lost" her virginity to a 15-year-old? Even if she really was a virgin, it was still statutory rape. She belongs with all the other sexual predators.
 
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October 18, 2006, 7:37 am PDT

Not just teachers

I just wanted to make the comment that this is not just an issue dealing with teachers.  I understand they may have more of an opportunity and they're in a place of authority over these children, however, some kids view all adults in their lives as authority figures.  In a town close to mine a wife of a person I know was having sex with a minor child neighbor and many of his friends.  She is now sitting in prison for 7 years.  It is amazing to see these highly publisized cases and these women getting away with what they did, or getting a slap on the hand, and here with the local case near my town,which was not publisized, she received 7 years in prison.  I am unsure of the "right" amount of time these women should face, or men, however, to parade them on t.v. as these beautiful women we should feel sorry for seems ridiculous.  I am sure these women have selfesteem issues as well as possible past sexual abuse issues, however, shouldn't the issue be treated the same as we treat a man in this position.  These women definitely need help and definitely need punishment.
 
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October 18, 2006, 2:54 pm PDT

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It took Janelle 24 years to lose her virginity? To a 15-year-old boy? Why couldn't she find someone her own age? And, her lawyer thinks she's "too pretty" for jail? If she's that damn pretty, men her age should've been waiting in line.

 
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October 18, 2006, 4:51 pm PDT

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It took Janelle 24 years to lose her virginity? To a 15-year-old boy? Why couldn't she find someone her own age? And, her lawyer thinks she's "too pretty" for jail? If she's that damn pretty, men her age should've been waiting in line.

I was going to defend men in saying not all of them care only about looks, but I guess probably 95% of them do...
 

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October 18, 2006, 7:34 pm PDT

Janelle IS a good person

I will defend Janelle to the day I die. She IS my friend. Janelle and I taught Reading together last year in the public school system . You may not agree with what I have to say,  but that is purely your ignorance to the situation. Yes, Janelle committed a crime. But, to attack her personally and say things like she is a rapist, is wrong. That is not the case. Janelle made a mistake, but does that mean she is a bad person? I know her. I have spent time with her. She is one of the nicest people you will ever meet. To see her in this position  breaks my heart. I can tell you, she is a better person than many of you. You can sit there and judge her for her mistake, but what about you? Her mistake is a big mistake, but why is she the only one to blame? What about that 15 year old boy..who, by the way, turned 16 during this fiasco. So, this 16 year boy is totally innocent? I think not. 

 

Janelle IS a good person who made a mistake. It doesn't mean she is a sexual predator, a rapist, or just a sick human being. SHE MADE A MISTAKE. A mistake that gives the public the right to throw obscene and rude comments in her face. Well, may your lifetime of mistakes one day be thrown in your face or put on display for the public to defame you.

 

Janelle WILL rise above this. I know that the time she spends paying for this crime will make her a stronger person.

 
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October 18, 2006, 8:27 pm PDT

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I will defend Janelle to the day I die. She IS my friend. Janelle and I taught Reading together last year in the public school system . You may not agree with what I have to say,  but that is purely your ignorance to the situation. Yes, Janelle committed a crime. But, to attack her personally and say things like she is a rapist, is wrong. That is not the case. Janelle made a mistake, but does that mean she is a bad person? I know her. I have spent time with her. She is one of the nicest people you will ever meet. To see her in this position  breaks my heart. I can tell you, she is a better person than many of you. You can sit there and judge her for her mistake, but what about you? Her mistake is a big mistake, but why is she the only one to blame? What about that 15 year old boy..who, by the way, turned 16 during this fiasco. So, this 16 year boy is totally innocent? I think not. 

 

Janelle IS a good person who made a mistake. It doesn't mean she is a sexual predator, a rapist, or just a sick human being. SHE MADE A MISTAKE. A mistake that gives the public the right to throw obscene and rude comments in her face. Well, may your lifetime of mistakes one day be thrown in your face or put on display for the public to defame you.

 

Janelle WILL rise above this. I know that the time she spends paying for this crime will make her a stronger person.

but she does need to pay for her criome and to say that she is too pretty to go to jail is way off the wall, So who get sto decide who is pretty and not pretty? She may be a sweet person and yes, I agree she made a mistake and it was a mistake that was against the law and she needs the same consequence as any one else who has done the same thing, having sex with a child. She was the adult here and she should have been able to say NO. I pesonally do not think this boy was all that innocent but yet at the same time, she did committ a crime. And I agree, she  can/will arise above this, but she is no differnet then anyone else who committs a crime and her looks shouldn't have anything to do with the outcome.

And sorrry to say, but when some one in a postotion such as hers, tehy are gonna be publicized, we all know that, therefore those people need to be a little extra careful, believe me, I know. I have held high positions in my churhc denomination and one thing that can land some one in thepostion of losing their job such as I had was to committ adukltery or sex before marriage, When I met and fell in love with my now husband, I wanted to be with him in more ways then one but knew that if I messed up, the whole district would know eventually cause stuff like that doesn't stay secret for very long, i knew if I fail into that temptation, I could have lost my job but thankfully, I knew what my priorities and beliefs were and nothing would get int eh ay of that. I know it is easy to fall at times, but we have to use our brains and run the other way at times and she didn't do that. I ma sure, in the back of her mind, she knew she was wrong and could lose her job but she let her emotions, whatever get the best of her, sad but she committed a crime. Hopefully she has learned from this and will come out on top but she isn't aboce the law just because of her looks and the type of person she is..............
 

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October 18, 2006, 9:07 pm PDT

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but she does need to pay for her criome and to say that she is too pretty to go to jail is way off the wall, So who get sto decide who is pretty and not pretty? She may be a sweet person and yes, I agree she made a mistake and it was a mistake that was against the law and she needs the same consequence as any one else who has done the same thing, having sex with a child. She was the adult here and she should have been able to say NO. I pesonally do not think this boy was all that innocent but yet at the same time, she did committ a crime. And I agree, she  can/will arise above this, but she is no differnet then anyone else who committs a crime and her looks shouldn't have anything to do with the outcome.

And sorrry to say, but when some one in a postotion such as hers, tehy are gonna be publicized, we all know that, therefore those people need to be a little extra careful, believe me, I know. I have held high positions in my churhc denomination and one thing that can land some one in thepostion of losing their job such as I had was to committ adukltery or sex before marriage, When I met and fell in love with my now husband, I wanted to be with him in more ways then one but knew that if I messed up, the whole district would know eventually cause stuff like that doesn't stay secret for very long, i knew if I fail into that temptation, I could have lost my job but thankfully, I knew what my priorities and beliefs were and nothing would get int eh ay of that. I know it is easy to fall at times, but we have to use our brains and run the other way at times and she didn't do that. I ma sure, in the back of her mind, she knew she was wrong and could lose her job but she let her emotions, whatever get the best of her, sad but she committed a crime. Hopefully she has learned from this and will come out on top but she isn't aboce the law just because of her looks and the type of person she is..............
The judge in the case of Debra Lefave is the one who said that DEBRA, not Janelle, was "too pretty for prison."  Just to get the story straight.
 
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October 18, 2006, 9:19 pm PDT

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The judge in the case of Debra Lefave is the one who said that DEBRA, not Janelle, was "too pretty for prison."  Just to get the story straight.
ok, sorry aout the mess up.
 
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October 18, 2006, 10:39 pm PDT

boy ohhh boy

these teachers give a new meaning to the sex ed classes,!  i do wonder tho had that teacher looked like a dog if the judge would have sent her to prison, looks like to me he wanted to brush up on his sex ed classes he missed out on when he was in school,
 
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