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Topic : 06/05 Big Spenders and Cheapskates

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Created on : Thursday, October 12, 2006, 06:05:47 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/20/06) Do you spend money frivolously, or do you hold on to every cent? Katie says when she and her husband, Joe, were dating, he wined and dined her, but when they got married, he became so cheap that she had to buy her own wedding ring, and he refused to take her on a honeymoon. When Katie lost over 40 pounds and wanted to buy clothes that fit, she says Joe told her to just gain the weight back. Joe says he has to control all of Katie's spending, or they would end up in the poorhouse. Is Joe really the penny-pincher Katie says he is, or is Katie's spending the real problem? Next, Ericka says her friend, Carlena, has "caviar taste with a tuna fish budget," and that if she doesn't learn to control her shopaholic ways, she'll end up on the street. Carlena says she deserves everything she buys -- designer clothes, over 100 pairs of shoes, and the TV in her car -- even if she can't afford them. Carlena's spending has gotten so bad, she had to move back home with her mother, Leonetta. Leonetta joins the show via satellite with all of Carlena's possessions on her lawn. Don’t miss her shocking ultimatum to her daughter and share your thoughts here!

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June 5, 2007, 5:27 pm PDT

Carlina

I'm wondering where Carlina gets off saying she is intitled to have a 52 in. plasma t.v., over 100 pairs of shoes and very expensive clothes and jewelery!!!!! I'm 64 years old, raised a family and wroked for a long time and sure don't have all that!!!!!! All she is doing is stealing from the stores and credit card companys!!!!!!!!

 
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June 5, 2007, 6:10 pm PDT

Katie

Katie, I was having a really hard time understanding what you found so funny when speaking about your husband controlling the money in such a hard fisted way. Listening to your story I didn't find any of it funny at all =(.

First and foremost you both need to work on your own credit ratings. I don't think it is going to matter a wit if your husband has great credit, and you find yourself in a situation were you having a great credit rating is needed and don't.

When your husband said on the tape that if you don't like his ways, there is the door, I thought yup use it you jerk lol. What a callous thing to say, in any event even if he said that facetiously I would pay heed to those words.

Ok so he got a four wheeler and a motor cycle and what ever else, and you got ... oh yea no name brand peanut butter.

Being interdependent in a marriage is not wrong, it is healthy, so get healthy girl or in the long run you are going to pay a hefty  price for it.

Dad bemoaning the fact that you shell out 125 dollars for your son to learn social skills, pre school skills, and just all around having fun is shameful. I didn't see you as a tight wad, I seen you as a very selfish man who wants what he wants, and the rest of the family can just deal with it or move on.

 

 

 

 
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June 5, 2007, 6:30 pm PDT

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I agree with the man in this case.  Statistically, women out do men  in the spending of money.  If he did not control the money, his wife might be out shopping for everything.  I give my wife a spending allowance.  I give her $100 per month.  Out of that she has to buy groceries and whatever is left she  can use on herself.  And that is all that she gets. period.  Whenever she goes out if  she takes the car, I first write down themilage and I check it when she  gets home. If the milage exceeds 25miles, she has some explaining to do.  I demand breakfast at 7am Mon thru Sat.  Lunch time can vary.  Dinner hour is precisely at 6pm Seven days a week.  I take my wife out to dinner once a year, on her birthday.  She has two pair of shoes--One pair of dress shoes, and  one pair of work shoes.  She has one dressup dress and five  ordinary house dresses.  She has enough under garnments to change every day for two weeks.  If meals are not on time,  I just get in my truck and go down to the diner and eat. The wife can stay home and go hungry or eat by herself.  If she  doesn't get the morning or evening meal on the table precisely at the times specified, then she can eat by herself.  I am not taking the lazy oaf out to eat.  This arrangement  has worked very well for the past fifteen years.  We are happily married.

Lots of women stay in relationships that are unbalanced and unfair, has nothing to do with her being happy. 

I am sure you are quite pleased with yourself, and happy,as for your wife if she was to speak for herself I am sure there would be things in the relationship that make her unhappy.

Don't know to many people that are happy about being called a "Lazy Oaf" or who have so little consideration from their spouse that if dinner is late they can stay home and starve for all the spouse cares.

To me it just sounds like an abusive situation, and many women are feel trapped in those situations, has nothing to do with the happiness of the couple.

 

 

 
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June 5, 2007, 6:39 pm PDT

She

I have hardly any words to describe my feelings about Carlena & her immaturity, selfishness, irresponsibility, & just plain stupidity.  I know she got the way she is because 'someone' enabled her, probably her Mother, but there's just no excuse for this girl to live the way she does & get away with it.  She thinks she's sooooo special....I've got news for her, she's not, at all!

She says people have talked about her all the time since she was a young girl.....I'll just bet they did, especially if she had that same 'attitude' when she was a girl.  She needs to know that just because people talk about you, doesn't mean that's a good thing.....in her case, quite the contrary.  She needs to get over herself & grow up....she's not fooling anyone but herself.   The looks on her face all during show though, indicate that she just doesn't get it & never will.  She thought everything was one big joke, but the joke was on her.  

 
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June 5, 2007, 8:18 pm PDT

Carlena

Calena dear...you are not a movie star...people talk about anyone and everyone because they like to gossip and right now they are saying not very nice things about you...why would you want that?  It just seems you have become so arrogant that its lead you to stealing and I was really hoping Dr. Phil would explain to you how you could end up in prison for what you have done.  Don't sell all that stuff your mom loaded up as the credit card company is going to want it all back!  They have to get their money somehow and they will come in and take everything you have charged...and you will be black listed on all credit cards and not beable to get another one...your credit will be ruined and you will be taken to court and forced to make monthly payments to them OR go to jail...its considered a white collar crime...stealing!!

 

You are nothing more then a thief and that is certainly nothing to be proud about. Do you deserve the title of a thief?  You probably don't think so but that is excatly what Dr. Phil was trying to tell you.  I would be so ashamed of myself if I did something like that.  I had ONE credit card to be used only when I truly need it...such as last month one of my cats got seriously ill and just to start treatment for him I had to put down several hundred dollars which I didn't have in my checking account so I did use it then.  Its for cases like that...not to spend on a bunch of useless junk that you can't take with you when you die. 

 

Our treasures are in Heaven not on earth...one day you will discover you deserve something much better then money or material things...

 

Good luck...I hope you grow up soon before you find yourself sitting in jail...

 
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June 5, 2007, 8:26 pm PDT

06/05 Big Spenders and Cheapskates

My Ex husband refused to give me one of my sons on Friday going against a court order with a judges stamp, but said he would give him to me if I gave him $50.  Did I owe him $50?  NO!  I actually had just paid for something else for this son in the afternoon that he was suppose to pay for.  Did I give him the $50.  NO!  He finally surrendered my son on Sunday evening.  Even though you get a divorce you still have to deal with your Ex's #$%^&*.  Am I glad I am divorced?  YES!  Do you any other exhusbands or husbands who do $%^&&*  stuff like that?  **sigh**  I am happy to be divorced.  I was thinking about this with my Ex...... he does work and he gets FREE car, FREE gas, FREE car insurance, FREE cell phone and FREE internet thru his job.  I forfeited child support to get away from him because I did not have energy to fight him.  "shark bite, bull ride"   I don't care about that because I have made a life for myself... BUT WHY IS IT OK for an EXHUSBAND to do this and nobody understands it, don't know what to call it or what to do?    It seems sometimes like the person who does right is penalized and the bully is rewarded.......
 
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June 5, 2007, 9:55 pm PDT

This girl is rediculous

This poor poor girl who can't stop spending on expensive things makes me wanna pull my hair out!!! I mean COME ON!!! She keeps saying that she has to have the best of the best, and she is the best of the best?? If you ask me she is INCREDIBLY confused about what makes someone "A GREAT PERSON" She has all these material things that mean NOTHING and how can she develop a meaningful relationship with someone of her age when she is 30 something with no career, no stability, and a false sense of self. Im sorry, but get your head out of fantasy land before you hit the big 40 and realize then what you should have been thinking about when you were 25 like bieng a strong independent woman willing and able to take on the world. And what about the joy of having kids?? That is the best thing in the world... and I sure hope she realizes the difference between material things and being the best she can be from the inside out. Not from the outside in.
 
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June 6, 2007, 4:32 am PDT

Debtors' prison

Hey....maybe we should start the old English Debtors' Prisons again....if she owes $38000.00, and she has not made any plans on paying it back to the credit card companies,.....there ought to be concequences........Dr. Phil is right, it is if she stole that money.........HEY, Carlena, you are not that special!!
 
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June 6, 2007, 4:48 am PDT

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My Ex husband refused to give me one of my sons on Friday going against a court order with a judges stamp, but said he would give him to me if I gave him $50.  Did I owe him $50?  NO!  I actually had just paid for something else for this son in the afternoon that he was suppose to pay for.  Did I give him the $50.  NO!  He finally surrendered my son on Sunday evening.  Even though you get a divorce you still have to deal with your Ex's #$%&*.  Am I glad I am divorced?  YES!  Do you any other exhusbands or husbands who do $%&&*  stuff like that?  **sigh**  I am happy to be divorced.  I was thinking about this with my Ex...... he does work and he gets FREE car, FREE gas, FREE car insurance, FREE cell phone and FREE internet thru his job.  I forfeited child support to get away from him because I did not have energy to fight him.  "shark bite, bull ride"   I don't care about that because I have made a life for myself... BUT WHY IS IT OK for an EXHUSBAND to do this and nobody understands it, don't know what to call it or what to do?    It seems sometimes like the person who does right is penalized and the bully is rewarded.......
The only way you have a chance to fight this is to be certain the court is aware that he has violated the order.  Build a record and document each occasion in which he violates the order.  The talk to an attorney.  You can probably get one to take the case pro bono.  You'd end up back in court, but you will have a chance to fight for your rights.
 
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June 6, 2007, 4:49 am PDT

Bomar

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Lots of women stay in relationships that are unbalanced and unfair, has nothing to do with her being happy. 

I am sure you are quite pleased with yourself, and happy,as for your wife if she was to speak for herself I am sure there would be things in the relationship that make her unhappy.

Don't know to many people that are happy about being called a "Lazy Oaf" or who have so little consideration from their spouse that if dinner is late they can stay home and starve for all the spouse cares.

To me it just sounds like an abusive situation, and many women are feel trapped in those situations, has nothing to do with the happiness of the couple.

 

 

That little piggy went to the diner...
 
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