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Created on : Friday, July 01, 2005, 05:09:04 pm
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February 24, 2006, 10:18 am PST

I don't believe

I don't believe that most women (especially if they're attractive) want to get married.  They want to "play the field" and keep men mesmerized, keep them guessing.  Then, after they've gone through the phone book and realize their "biological clock" is ticking, they want to find someone-anyone-who would just be thrilled to have them. 

  

No.   

  

I'm getting the money, buying the most attractive woman I can and getting a pre-nup so she won't think of cheating on me. 

  

It's sad, because I think a pre-nup sends a double message.  However, with American women cheating on men in record numbers, it may be necessary to keep her honest. 

 
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February 24, 2006, 10:44 am PST

Joke?

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I'd sell my soul for a wife, but women are too into themselves to take a relationship seriously.  Their career always comes first.  No.  When a woman marries, WE come first.

You are joking, right??!! 

  

 
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February 24, 2006, 10:45 am PST

Joke

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I don't believe that most women (especially if they're attractive) want to get married.  They want to "play the field" and keep men mesmerized, keep them guessing.  Then, after they've gone through the phone book and realize their "biological clock" is ticking, they want to find someone-anyone-who would just be thrilled to have them. 

  

No.   

  

I'm getting the money, buying the most attractive woman I can and getting a pre-nup so she won't think of cheating on me. 

  

It's sad, because I think a pre-nup sends a double message.  However, with American women cheating on men in record numbers, it may be necessary to keep her honest. 

Sounds like you need to check into getting yourself a mail order bride.
 
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February 24, 2006, 10:52 am PST

Comparison

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I need help with my emotions right now. I've been dating my boyfriend for over seven and a half years. We started dating the summer after our freshman year of high school. Now we're 23. We go to college together, live together, have ten pets together, and share a tons of mutual friends. I never wanted to be the girl who was obsessed with her boyfriend, so in high school we would usually go to dances and things like that with other people. Honestly, when I was a teenager, I never thought we'd make it this far. But we did and we couldn't be happier except for one thing...I'm ready to get married and he isn't. I am getting ready to graduate college, move away, and start a career. I want to get married before I move away so I can plan my marriage ceremony in my home state with my family around me. Plus, I'M JUST READY. I've told him all of this. He knows what I want and he acknowledges that we are already living like husband and wife. But he doesn't want to get married until after we move away and begin our careers. I don't think that makes any sense. I think there may be another reason... To make things worse, all of my friends are getting engaged, and they haven't been together nearly as long and don't have nearly as strong relationships! It makes me kind of sick at my stomach to see them taking the next step while I am in a paralyzed relationship. I hate comparing our relationship to others, but I feel like the time for the ideal proposal has already come and it on its way out the door. I'm afraid that when he does propose its not going to be a passionate and romantic occasion because I'll be bitter about waiting and watching all of my friends get married first. I know all of my feelings aren't admirable, but they are genuine. I feel frustrated and I've begun to take it out on him.

Please know that I am not patronizing you about your age; this is coming straight from my own personal experience: if you have a stable, loving relationship now, then the right thing to do is to wait. You don't want to push him into marriage, then he will be the one with resentment. And, you will have many regrets, too- because that ceremony you dream of won't be nearly as wonderful without his heart being 100% into it. I know its difficult for you to see others getting engaged around you, but if your relationship is as secure as you say, then you are the couple who is going to stand the test of time.  

When you dream of romantic proposals from fairy tales, you are bound to be dissapointed. When you can learn to accept your boyfriend for the person he is, instead of the person you wish he would be, you will feel an inner peace. That inner peace is priceless!! When he does propose, I urge you to go to pre-marital counceling. It is very helpful to be guided by a professional who has seen hundreds of other couples with the same issues, and to learn how to communicate more effectively. I also recommend Dr. Phil's book, "relationship rescue" because its very helpfull. Relax.. you are harming your relationship instead of helping. 

 
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February 24, 2006, 11:32 am PST

Ready for Marriage?

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I don't believe that most women (especially if they're attractive) want to get married.  They want to "play the field" and keep men mesmerized, keep them guessing.  Then, after they've gone through the phone book and realize their "biological clock" is ticking, they want to find someone-anyone-who would just be thrilled to have them. 

  

No.   

  

I'm getting the money, buying the most attractive woman I can and getting a pre-nup so she won't think of cheating on me. 

  

It's sad, because I think a pre-nup sends a double message.  However, with American women cheating on men in record numbers, it may be necessary to keep her honest. 

What the hell!?!?!?!?!!?  I don't consider myself a hottie or anything, but I am certainly not chopped liver but my career is not the 'be all, end all' of me.  In fact, I would put my personal life ahead of my career.  Please do not automatically put me in that category, the shoe does not fit, therefore I will not be forced to wear it.
 
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February 24, 2006, 1:21 pm PST

thanks...

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Please know that I am not patronizing you about your age; this is coming straight from my own personal experience: if you have a stable, loving relationship now, then the right thing to do is to wait. You don't want to push him into marriage, then he will be the one with resentment. And, you will have many regrets, too- because that ceremony you dream of won't be nearly as wonderful without his heart being 100% into it. I know its difficult for you to see others getting engaged around you, but if your relationship is as secure as you say, then you are the couple who is going to stand the test of time.  

When you dream of romantic proposals from fairy tales, you are bound to be dissapointed. When you can learn to accept your boyfriend for the person he is, instead of the person you wish he would be, you will feel an inner peace. That inner peace is priceless!! When he does propose, I urge you to go to pre-marital counceling. It is very helpful to be guided by a professional who has seen hundreds of other couples with the same issues, and to learn how to communicate more effectively. I also recommend Dr. Phil's book, "relationship rescue" because its very helpfull. Relax.. you are harming your relationship instead of helping. 

Thanks for responding in such an understanding way. After reading some replies to my message and re-reading my message, I've decided I need to clarify my position. I don't want to get married right now, but I do want to get engaged. I know I need to wait for marriage, but the fact is, he has told me a thousand times he wants to get married after we move. HE has begun planning our life together, and thats where I get frustrated. I feel like I can't talk about the future. I feel like I can't even acknowledge our future together because it may put pressure on him. I've been careful not to bring the idea up (I let him) but I'm not even sure if I should have to avoid it! He wants to get married in the future but he doesn't want to get engaged right now. I don't want to push him, but I need to be able to plan my future. I can't keep living like this. We both know where our path is headed, but we can't talk about it. I can't just keep planning one thing in my head and another out loud. Like I said, we already live like we're married. If he intends to marry me within the next five years (thats what he has said), why can't we get engaged? I mean aren't we kind of already engaged if he is saying that?
 
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February 25, 2006, 11:39 am PST

Remove the pressure

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Thanks for responding in such an understanding way. After reading some replies to my message and re-reading my message, I've decided I need to clarify my position. I don't want to get married right now, but I do want to get engaged. I know I need to wait for marriage, but the fact is, he has told me a thousand times he wants to get married after we move. HE has begun planning our life together, and thats where I get frustrated. I feel like I can't talk about the future. I feel like I can't even acknowledge our future together because it may put pressure on him. I've been careful not to bring the idea up (I let him) but I'm not even sure if I should have to avoid it! He wants to get married in the future but he doesn't want to get engaged right now. I don't want to push him, but I need to be able to plan my future. I can't keep living like this. We both know where our path is headed, but we can't talk about it. I can't just keep planning one thing in my head and another out loud. Like I said, we already live like we're married. If he intends to marry me within the next five years (thats what he has said), why can't we get engaged? I mean aren't we kind of already engaged if he is saying that?

You need to be able to talk about all of this. Its so important! To open up the conversation yet remove the feeling/thought of "pressure" for him, you need to start your conversation out something like this: "This isn't pressure at all, I just need to be reassured that we are on the same page with our goals and plans in life so can we talk about...." Also assure him up-front that you love him dearly and you want him to be as ready for marriage as you are. It sounds like you truly do not want to pressure him, but you might be pressuring yourself? Honestly consider if that might be a possibility.... since there are people around you who are taking those steps that you desire, getting engaged, etc., you might be internalizing pressure. 

Its understandable that you would want to have your wedding in your home town/state... but you still can. It will just be in the future. You should not have to avoid these topics- this is the man you want to spend the rest of your life with, you need to be able to discuss anything and everything in a calm, rational way. Again, Dr. Phil's book, Relationship rescue, can be very helpful for you to learn how to communicate all of your thoughts, feelings and concerns in an honest way without pressure.  

 
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February 25, 2006, 1:48 pm PST

Thank you for stepping forward

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What the hell!?!?!?!?!!?  I don't consider myself a hottie or anything, but I am certainly not chopped liver but my career is not the 'be all, end all' of me.  In fact, I would put my personal life ahead of my career.  Please do not automatically put me in that category, the shoe does not fit, therefore I will not be forced to wear it.

Thank you for stepping forward.  THIS is why I use generalizations.  You were mad enough to say: "HOW DARE YOU!  I'm not like that!" 

  

When the masses stay back, they prove the particular generalization to be true. 

 
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February 25, 2006, 1:49 pm PST

At least

Quote From: jenoc99

Sounds like you need to check into getting yourself a mail order bride.
At least THEY know who is in charge...the MAN.
 
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February 25, 2006, 1:52 pm PST

Hardly

Quote From: jenoc99

You are joking, right??!! 

  

Hardly.  When women put their husbands and children first, the family ran smoothly.  When they put their careers and THEMSELVES first, the divorce rate shoots up, no one knows where the kids are and men resort to negative behaviors because the wives use their bodies as weapons against men.
 
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