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Created on : Friday, July 01, 2005, 05:09:04 pm
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May 26, 2006, 9:08 am PDT

Mom's advice

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I am 19 and my boyfriend of three years is 22. Recently we have decided to move in together, and the phrase that my mother told me a week ago after I told her about our plans keeps echoing in my mind "Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free". I have told my boyfriend that I love him and that I would prefer to be engaged before we moved in with each other. We see each other everyday, I cook for him everyday, make his lunch, we are intimate, I help him with chores/laundry, run errands for/with him and quite honestly it seems as if we are already married. He has told me that he loves me, and wants to marry me, but is going to wait until I am at least 25 before asking me so we have a lower chance of getting a devoice. He says he is not ready for marriage and I respect that, but he wont open up and tell me why he is not ready and last time I asked him to talk with me about it, he forbid me for ever bringing marriage up again. I love him and I don't want to push him away buy trying to manipulate him into marrying me, but I would like to know why he is ready to act like were married, without actually getting married. Am I trying to rush into things too soon? How should I go about trying to get him to open up?   

I would be grateful for any input.  

Thank you so much for reading.  

Your mother is so right, and you are a mature woman to be thinking with your head at this time-- c'mon.. this guy "forbid" you from bringing up marriage  again? WHY? 
Waiting until you are 25 to become married is totally fine, and its a good idea, however, from my sociological studies, couples who live together before getting married have even higher rates of divorce than people who wait to get married after age 25!
This seems to be for many reasons, but mainly its because one or both partners seem to think that once they get married, things "will change" and that they will "be closer" than they are just being a couple who lives together. When, in reality, nothing changes because if you don't have a close relationship and good, healthy communication before being married, then you aren't going to suddenly have it just because you are married.
I urge you to keep this in mind before you move in together!! You could end up with a big pile of regrets. People change a lot at your ages, you aren't going to be the same young lady in one year that you are right now. Your boyfriend isn't going to be the same young man that he is right now in one year. I would urge you to wait. If niether one of you is going anywhere, what is the rush?

 
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May 26, 2006, 9:30 am PDT

Is he ready?

I am 43 years old and have been divorced for 4 years.  One year ago, I became reacquainted with a man I went to Jr. High with and we are now engaged.  He is 42 and never married.  He is an alcoholic.  He says he loves me and wants to marry me and I truely believe he does.  He treats me well.  I love him.  However, his family is financially well-off and he has never had to work a regular job and depend on the income from that job.  If he needed money, he just called mommy.  We have been living together for a year.  During that time, he may have worked a total of two months.  He does house painting and landscaping and is trying to establish his own business.  I expected things to be slow during the winter months, but also expected things to pick up during the spring/summer.   My fiancee gets many calls for work.  He is currently working on one job which should have taken a total of two weeks and is now almost reaching a month and a half.  He has a few other weekly maintenance jobs which take a few hours each week and pull him off of the "main job".  To make a long story short, I'm finding it frustrating that he still has not completed this main job and expect him to get fired.  The people are putting their house on the market and he is dragging his feet on the painting.  It should have been done long ago.  There are days he chooses not to go to work because he wants to play with the dogs and drink beer.  I love him with all my heart, but am concerned about marrying him.  I don't want to be the only one responsible for bringing in an income and meeting the expenses.  I work a regular job, monday thru friday and never miss work.  He has never had that responsibility as he has always been able to depend on his mom for financial help.  I want him to get his business going and he has been working very hard at it.  He'll do good for a week, sometimes two, but then is back out in the garage, drinking beer, playing with the dogs and blowing off work.   Any Advise?
 
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May 26, 2006, 12:14 pm PDT

I understand in some ways

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 A.  Your twisting your kids into knots.  

  

  I know your mother bear is in there somewhere.  We teach people how to treat us, and your telling your husband, through YOUR actions, that your going to take whatever he can dish out.  That's your choice.  I understand that you want to keep you family together.  So your choices appear to be this.... 

  

   Let him continue to behave this way-- or move out, take your boys, and start over.  

  

I'm just a font, I'm words on a page and I cant do the work for you ( I think you deserve better)  but the choice is yours.  Your boys may end up hating their father, or disrespecting women, but in the end-- the choices is yours.  

  

 We all have to live with our decisions, good and bad.  No amount of complaining helps. 

i understand what you are saying , but i am not with him right now i just live here until he gets on his feet see this story is very long so i short it , i moved in with him for a couple of things one his nephew need a place and second he ended up on trouble big trouble and need to get out of it i don't think his out of it because he like to hide things for people but he has his youngest son living with him because his son mother who he just left lost he kids and child's aid give the kids to the dads so i am here to make sure his son gets toking care of and that his stays out of trouble his son likes me just as Jen , so am not with my husband just here its stupid but i have allot of care in me , so i just don't understand my husband he says he care for us but sometimes doesn't show it and this time around i am different to him i speak up to him and i say what i want to say before i just got upset and got mad at him now i see it as his not my husband but my kids father , my kids love there dad and they want to live with him i just want to know if i make a move like move out or stay is my kids going to end up like me or will they do  OK i love my kids and my step children allot i just looking out for these kids , i understand i need to do this but i and young and sometimes stupid i just need to make sure what i am doing, and  another thing i give up everything to be with my husband i had a job and a life and friends i have nothing but money missing for my wallet every time i have money i have lost out in all most 1100. dollars being here maybe you right who knows thank you for writing to me,,,
 
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May 26, 2006, 12:36 pm PDT

11 Years!!

My boyfriend and I have been together for 11 years com this July. In March I decided that I would ask him if we could get married next year. He actually said "I don't care" so I thought to myself "cool, I didn't expect him to say yes on any level" so we set a date of July 14, 2007 and started planning and booking a few ppl that were nearly booked already. I got my dress already only because my MOH twisted my rubber arm and made me buy the one we both fell in love with as soon as we seen it on, of all places, ebay. I am now taking a break from wedding planning since I have a few things done and I'm ahead of schedual.  

He is actually more into this wedding thing then I thought he would be, he has made a few decisions and promises me we can do this and that he really does want to get married. I on the other hand really want to get married but I'm scared our relationship will change in some way afterwards. We have 2 children and we own our own home. My father and brother tell me I should bother doing something that is preactically already done. This has made me quite upset and I know I should say something to them but I don't know what to say and how to say it as to not start a family fude.   

Am I really ready to get married??? Do I need to get married after 11 years? 

  

 
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May 26, 2006, 1:00 pm PDT

He's Just Not That Into You

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Actually no, he isn't always nice to me the dog as more attention then I do when I tell him about that he gets furious.  He doesn't know how to show is feelings but still say that he loves me that he's showing me is way.....  I think that I see myself being 37y old with no kids and a job that I don't like i'm scared to end up alone.   I'm wondering if someone else then him will ever want me.  Thank you for your reply, I appreciate it. 

  

  

Have you read the book?  You should.  When a man loves a woman, he moves heaven and earth to make her happy.  This guy is Just Not That Into You, better to face it now than waste your life on someone who doesn't really care.
 
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May 26, 2006, 1:13 pm PDT

FANTASTIC BIT OF ADVICE

Quote From: trinket

   

   Listen Carefully.....  

   

     Would you wear a wedding dress to the grocery store ?   Really, would you ?  It's just a dress... it's just a "hunk of cloth" right ?   Imagine it... all the "Brides" in line at the grocery store.    

   

 I know, you think that's ridiculous right ?  how silly, wearing your wedding dress to the grocery store, to run errands in... Wedding dresses are for sacred special occassions, not every day kind of things like errands and trips to the store !   I know, but hey... just imagine it.   

   

  So, if you can say that about a wedding dress, that it's special-- and it should not be worn to the grocery store---why cant you say that about yourself and your  own body ??  Aren't you worth something ?  Aren't you valuable for a special occassion ?   

   

   "He says he wants to wait till Im' 25  so we have a lower rate of divoce" ...  

   

 (this is why evil prays on the young...they really don't know any better )   

   

   

  From the perspective of a person on this earth long enough to spot a snake in the grass from a mile off--   "I want to wait till I find something better than you, but stick around, I like the "friends with benefits gig I have now ".   

   

 The math is... 3 years for him, and 7 years for you  (when your both 25...) by then.. he's gonna find someone else to bear his children..   

   

  MOVE BACK IN WiTH MOM.... and dont move in with him, until after you wear that wedding dress.   

Bravo!  And well said. 

  

Think of your situation this way:   

  

When a man and woman live together 

SHE has all the responsibilities of marriage and none of the benefits. 

HE has all the benefits of marriage and none of the responsibilities. 

  

Think about it. 

  

Why should he get married when he knows he can talk you out of it. 

  

Here's another thought that I've found is so true:  If you love something set it free.  If it comes back to you, it's truly yours to keep.  If it doesn't come back, it was never yours in the first place. 

  

Set him free and see what happens.  It could be the best thing that ever happened to you.  And it would teach him that you aren't going to waste your life waiting for him to appreciate you. 

  

  

 
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May 26, 2006, 2:03 pm PDT

Ready to try again

I am nearly 34 years old.  I have been divorced for 8 years and I have been with my current boyfriend for 7 years.  Both he and I are divorced.  I have two beautiful boys (ages 14 & 12) he has two beautiful daughters (ages 15 & 13).  We feel like one great big family.  Here lies the problem.  I want very much to make this a reality.  I want to be part of his family.  I am sick of calling him my "boyfriend".  I love him and want to be his wife.  I think he wants to marry me too.  The only thing that is holding him up is the engagement ring.  I told him that I don't even care if I get an engagement ring.  He thinks that because he can't afford to get me a big rock that he will look cheap.  I don't care what people think.  I would love nothing more than to have a big rock, but if he can only afford a small ring than I would be fine with that too.  I just want to be a real member of his family, not a "friend" of his.  Any suggestions?
 
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May 26, 2006, 2:11 pm PDT

He's Just Not That Into You

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Ok, here's the 411 on my relationship.  We have been together for 6 years and living together for 5 of those years.  I think we are probably too comforatble in our current living arrangements.  I however am wanting to get married and have a couple of kids.  He says not to pressure him, well I think 6 years is not pressure.  I have found a few months back that he visits match.com (but is not subscribed), which this is online dating promoted thru Dr. Phil.  He was talking about guys he works with doing it and I said I bet you do to and he said no.  Well I have found on the computer that he is going to the site looking, but not talking to.  Is there any harm in that?  I have also found that he visits porn sites and has a picture of a girl in a thong on his phone......I am so disgusted with this.  I really love him and want to marry him, but I don't feel that he feels the same way or has all this other stuff that he is doing blocked me from seeing what is true?  I am sick about this and don't know what to do.

Men are cowards.  They like the status quo.  This is his way of telling you he's tired of your relationship but doesn't have the guts to break it off. 

  

This is where you have to be mature, realize that the relationship is falling way short of meeting your needs.  You should explain to him that you are unhappy and that's why you are leaving. 

  

Don't tell him where you're going.  If he asks, tell him you haven't decided yet and when you're ready to speak to him again, you'll let him know.  Then drop him from your life and move on. 

  

  

 
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May 26, 2006, 2:56 pm PDT

Find Another Man

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I am 43 years old and have been divorced for 4 years.  One year ago, I became reacquainted with a man I went to Jr. High with and we are now engaged.  He is 42 and never married.  He is an alcoholic.  He says he loves me and wants to marry me and I truely believe he does.  He treats me well.  I love him.  However, his family is financially well-off and he has never had to work a regular job and depend on the income from that job.  If he needed money, he just called mommy.  We have been living together for a year.  During that time, he may have worked a total of two months.  He does house painting and landscaping and is trying to establish his own business.  I expected things to be slow during the winter months, but also expected things to pick up during the spring/summer.   My fiancee gets many calls for work.  He is currently working on one job which should have taken a total of two weeks and is now almost reaching a month and a half.  He has a few other weekly maintenance jobs which take a few hours each week and pull him off of the "main job".  To make a long story short, I'm finding it frustrating that he still has not completed this main job and expect him to get fired.  The people are putting their house on the market and he is dragging his feet on the painting.  It should have been done long ago.  There are days he chooses not to go to work because he wants to play with the dogs and drink beer.  I love him with all my heart, but am concerned about marrying him.  I don't want to be the only one responsible for bringing in an income and meeting the expenses.  I work a regular job, monday thru friday and never miss work.  He has never had that responsibility as he has always been able to depend on his mom for financial help.  I want him to get his business going and he has been working very hard at it.  He'll do good for a week, sometimes two, but then is back out in the garage, drinking beer, playing with the dogs and blowing off work.   Any Advise?

Here is my advice.  Your fiance is not a young man so we can assume he's fairly set in his ways.  You probably make his life much more convenient for him, so he wants you around.  

  

But be realistic.  You must either accept him the way he is or you bail out, honey.  Those are your choices.  You are the responsible one in this "couple" and if you don't want to be the "mommy" to his "little boy" telling him what to do and when to do it (which he will undoubtedly begin to resent) then you have to realize that this relationship, while you like him personally, is not going to meet your needs. 

  

Start with getting your own place.  The easiest way to handle future relationships is not to ever move out of your own place unless a man puts a wedding ring on your finger.  Make it clear from the start of the next relationship.  Don't be so eager to move in just because you "love" him and he "loves" you.  That's not enough incentive for you to alter your carefully laid out life.  If a man wants you with him all the time, living in his home there's only one way he can do it and that's to marry you.  If you make it plain from the start that you have standards that you won't breach for anyone no matter how much you love him, you'll find yourself with a man who meets your standards.  Or not.  But at least your life will have order and security. 

  

Best of luck. 

 
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May 26, 2006, 3:04 pm PDT

What do I do?

I have been with my finace for almost two years and he asked me to marry him about 5 months ago. I am currently planning my wedding for August 12 but I am having some quesations about marrying my fiance. I am currently going through college and I just got out a little over two weeks ago. I have been takng a break and reaxing trying to recouperate from school and working, which wore me out. I also have Chroniic Fatigue Immunne Defficency Syndrom so doing all that I did really wore me out. But my fiance thinks that I have to get stuff done everyday and acts like if I dont get everything done that I am dissapointing him. He has never shown me this side before. He has became really mean, he tells me that I never do anything and other mean things like that. So I worked hare one day and got most of the things that deeded to be done done and he was nice to me that night the next day I did not cook dinner but I got another thing done and then yesterday I did all my driving errands and did not cook dinner and we got ina fight and he started being rude to because I had not cooked dinner for him. I feel like he has demandsa that I am trying to meet but am struggleing to meet them completly. But even the progress that I make he is still critical of everything that i do not do right. He is really a gret man but I do not know what to do about his expectztions.
 
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