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Created on : Friday, October 20, 2006, 01:50:58 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/25/06) Dr. Phil's guests say they have a home wrecker in their life who has destroyed their marriage. Lisa says her five-month marriage to Sean is already in shambles because of his ex-wife, Kristy. Lisa says Kristy makes hateful phone calls, physical threats and frequent attempts to steal Sean away from her. Kristy says she doesn't want Sean back; she just wants him to be a good father to their kids. Then, Sherry says her daughter, Tammy, talked her into divorcing her husband, J.R. Now, Sherry wants to re-marry J.R., but both her daughters are making her choose between them or him. Tammy and her sister say that J.R. controls their mother and they won't support this reunion. Is Sherry making a big mistake, or are her daughters manipulating her? Join the discussion.

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October 29, 2006, 8:59 am PST

10/25 Home Wreckers

Quote From: princess5000

It seems to me that you missed the boat again.. I didnt hear Sean say that he didnt try and see his kids because of Lisa, I only heard him say that he didnt feel right flying out there alone to see the kids, we dont know if it was brought up about Kristy accusations.. that may have been left out.. and again I think that they asked the question of how many times has Sean and Lisa tried to get the children over the last two years and been blocked by Kristy?  A question to think about.. I also feel that Lisa is getting a little bit of a misrepresentation in this story, granted we dont know about the claims of Kristy trying to steal Sean, maybe that was left out also, but I dont think that Sean or Lisa would have gone on the show if they didnt want things to get better for them and their children, also it is funny that still people are missing the point about how he had to take Kristy to court to get some visitation rights set... to me that doesnt sound like a father that doesnt want to see his children.. if so why take the time and money to take someone to court to get that right back.. I think that Sean is trying to be a father and a husband...but he is not been given the chance to reach out to his children because of the anger that Kristy has said that she has for him..

So Sorry...YOU missed the boat...ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE, no matter how you try to package it, not flying to see your children out of "respect" for your new wife is WEAK, and a POOR EXCUSE no matter what kind of bow you put on it.  Clearly, Sean and Lisa deserve each other...

 
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October 29, 2006, 9:04 am PST

10/25 Home Wreckers

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I keep reading that people have a problem with Sean saying that he didnt feel comfortable going out to see his kids alone, maybe he doesnt have to take Lisa but maybe another family member could go along... has anyone thought that there could be a reason.... could it be that if Kristy is doing the things that Sean and Lisa say she is than maybe they have reason... I one would not want my current spouse to go and see an ex by themselves that has shown that they can create problems... I could see Sean going out to see his kids while he and Kristy were still having problems , and she making up an scnerio about her and Sean, wether it be that Sean was abusive to her or the children or something else... Then Sean could lose his kids forever.. With no one else there than I guess it would be her word against his and in the court we all know that almost always the woman is right no matter what...I dont think Sean said he wouldnt ever go out and see his kids, I think that maybe Kristy and Sean need to have some healing time before that happens.. It also seems like the people who arent relating to this story have been lucky enough not to have someone control you by using people you love.. I wonder how many times Sean and Lisa tried to get the children in the last two years and was blocked by Kristy!!!!!

Dear sas105,

 

Your response shows you CLEARLY have insecurity issues...please read your post out loud to yourself...I feel sorry for you.

 
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October 29, 2006, 11:19 am PST

Similar situation

 

  You know what, I am in a similar situation, only my husband and I are doing fine with one another.  The mother of his child hates me and had been bothing but kind to her.  I love this child like she is my own, the court battles are getting ridiculous and she just got the court order for me not to be left alone with the child wich broke my heart.  My husband is the first to say that I am a great step-mother and if he didn't trust me with her alone than I would't even be in the picture.  I think this chick has so much emotional baggage, they only dated for a few months and she ended up pregnant.  She also told my husband that she was going to tell the child he wanted her aborted, and she thinks I shouldn't be around the child?  She is the one suffering with heavy bouts of depression.. Any how I have thought about leaving my husband so he can have a relationship with his child and the mother won't play these games as nearly as bad, she is a huge threat to their relationship. It is sad for the child who is the victim in this whole thing..

 
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October 29, 2006, 11:21 am PST

10/25 Home Wreckers

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So Sorry...YOU missed the boat...ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE, no matter how you try to package it, not flying to see your children out of "respect" for your new wife is WEAK, and a POOR EXCUSE no matter what kind of bow you put on it.  Clearly, Sean and Lisa deserve each other...

I agree
 
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October 29, 2006, 11:28 am PST

10/25 Home Wreckers

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Dear sas105,

 

Your response shows you CLEARLY have insecurity issues...please read your post out loud to yourself...I feel sorry for you.

Yeah I agree, Sean is a big boy he does not need someone to hold his hand.  And Abuse is a big acusation that needs proof, I think he is full of empty excuses.
 
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October 29, 2006, 1:56 pm PST

10/25 Home Wreckers

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How disgusted I was when Dr. Phil asked Sean why he had only been to see his children twice in two years.  Sean paused, looked over at his wife Lisa, and then says "I didn't want to go alone and disrespect Lisa" (forgive me if the quote is not exact).  CLEARLY THE NEW WIFE IS CAUSING SOME DIFFICULTY OR CONFLICT WHEN IT COMES TO SEAN'S RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS CHILDREN AND HIS RESPONSIBILITY AS A FATHER OR HE WOULD NOT HAVE RESPONDED THAT WAY!  Regardless of Lisa's insecurities involving the ex-wife, if she cannot trust her husband to go and see his children then she needs to re-evaluate why she is in the marriage.  Shame on ANYONE coming between a father and his children, and shame on ANYONE choosing a second wife over his children.
Thank you...I totally agree.

If people don't want to make kids a priority then they shouldn't have kids at all!!!  Kids come first, always, ALWAYS, ALWAYS!!!
 
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October 29, 2006, 2:33 pm PST

!st wife a real problem

 I am so tired of these women, pretending to sacrifice everything for their children, but all the while withholding their father from them.  Why didn't Dr. Phil ask her why she moved 2000 miles??? The only reason I can think of to remove them further from their dad.  What a despicable witch
 
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October 29, 2006, 3:48 pm PST

10/25 Home Wreckers

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 I am so tired of these women, pretending to sacrifice everything for their children, but all the while withholding their father from them.  Why didn't Dr. Phil ask her why she moved 2000 miles??? The only reason I can think of to remove them further from their dad.  What a despicable witch
No one is defending that action...but why won't the dad go see them more? Seriously, I do not get it. What kind of a father can stomach only seeing his children once a year?!?!?!
 
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October 29, 2006, 3:55 pm PST

I was in the same boat

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   I did not have the opportunity to watch the show yesterday. My sister called and gave me highlights. Unfortunately it sounds far to similar to my story.  I have been with my husband for seven long strenuous years.  I have been in my stepsons life since he was three, my husband was raising him with very little interaction from the mother, that is until I entered their lives. The brainwashing that has taken place is soooo sad.  She has told him that I was the reason for their divorce. Untrue! And the list go's on and on.. The point is here we are seven years later. My husband and I have a daughter together that is witnessing the disrespect and awful treatment I receive from my step son.  This is entirely due to his mothers dislike towards me.

 

  I realize having the title step-mom is a difficult task in itself.  I have tried to nurture and keep our family together despite the constant negative force from a meddling ex-wife.  I am at my wits end.  She calls several times a day, uses my step son as a pawn. We are always in court because she is never satisfied with the amount of child support.  She comes to our home uninvited, belligerent,and screaming obscenities in front of the children. My husband needs to set boundaries with this woman. Unless a person has actually been in this situation, it is hard to comprehend.  It is easy to cast judgment.  The children suffer. If an ex-wife would put half as much of an effort into her children, with love and support.  Rather than meddling in her ex husbands marriage perhaps there wouldn't be as many similar stories.... THIS IS SO SAD!     

 

I understand exactly how you feel.  I have been married for 15 years (which is now hard to believe) to my husband.  He has 5 children, the oldest was 14 and the youngest 6 when we met.  I always say that his ex-wife sits at the right hand of Satan and I believe she truly enjoyed the pain that she caused us.  I knew my husband had children when I met him but never in my wildest dream did I think that this woman would treat someone this way.  My husband had been divorced for 5 years and during that time he did all that he could for his children.  Because his wife was considered an "indigent" by the State of Virginia the state paid for her to go to school, paid for her books and gave her funds to support herself.  While she is getting a free education, my husband is paying her $2,000 a month in child support and alimony.  Should she have gotten alimony, HELL NO!  She was the one that had not 1 but 2 affairs during the course of the marriage, both with friends of his.  The last one was with a family friend, breaking up his marriage.  She finally married him and now has 2 children with him. 

 

During the course of our marriage she has:  threatened to take the children out of the wedding because the could not attend a "church" ceremony, she threatened to kill the children, burn down my house, kill my dog; has assaulted me (in front of the children) and still feels she has done nothing wrong.  While all of this is going on she still maintains custody of the children!  After the assault the judge found her guilty, but told her that if she behaved, the charges would be dropped!    

 

At one point, our 16 year old called and said her mother "kicked her out of the house" and could she live with us.  A few weeks later we got a call from his daughter saying that her mother has "kidnapped" her from school and will not let her leave her mother's home until "they talk".  After speaking to the police, we could nothing because we did not have custody! 

 

After all that we did for this "devil child" she then tried to come between my husband and I!  We went to a therapist who said it was really either she or me and because of what was going on between she and her mother, she needed to know that her father was there for her and the only way for her to know it was to have me out of the way.  In the meantime, we hired an attorney to get custody and after 6 months after all that, she decided she wanted to move back home. Why?  Because we became a united front and gave her rules and guidelines that she had to follow. She didn't like that we kept an eye on her and wanted to know who she was with and where she was at.  When she moved back home with her mother things went down and it took almost a year for her to come to her senses.

 

Where are the children now?  Three have moved away and visit periodically and 2 are near us.  We have a very close relationship with them and I believe they know what truly happened between their mother and father.   Recently the "devil child" got married and we supported her in every way that we could.  Her mother told her she was going to attend the wedding just a month before the ceremony and because it was a destination wedding, we were all in close proximity to each other.  We made a concerted effort to be kind, cordial and polite during our entire stay.  It was difficult, but I knew that it would make a difference and it did. Now, every time we see her she gives both of us a hug and I never thought that I would see the loving side but I truly believes that she knows the pain that she caused us and she loves her father more than anything.  She has told me numerous times that her mother is "crazy" that they deal with her the best they can.  

 

Why do I tell you these things?  There is a light at the end of the tunnel.  I have said I don't know how we made it through our first 5 years of marriage because it was so stressful.  We celebrated the end of the child support payments and surprisingly, she stopped harassing us when the support payments stopped.  I would tell anyone that if you truly love your spouse to support and love each other.  It is truly worth it. 

 
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October 29, 2006, 9:44 pm PST

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I see all these people writing, saying Sean needs to put the children first, the children need to be the priority.  Unless one is an addict in recovery or is close to an addict in recovery, they would know that those statements are false.  It must be posted a hundred times on here.  For an addict, the first and most important thing in their life is their recovery.  It comes before anything else, no matter how important.  Without the recovery and a recovery based life, the person would not have anything.  The moment an addict prioritises something above his recovery, relapse is not far behind.  Trust me, I know.  Been there, done that.   Without his recovery, Sean is nothing for the children, he is nothing for his wife, he is nothing for his stepson.  It is amazing this has not been brought up yet, especially with another person claiming to be an addict (he also said the children come first, not a good way to go about recovery). 

I watched the show and have been reading through all the posts and yours is the first I feel compelled to respond to.  You have brought up an excellent and very valid point.  I am not an addict, but as you are - I respect your opinion that Sean's recovery must remain his #1 priority.  Truth that he cannot be a good husband, father or simply citizen of the world, if he doesn't stay 100% committed to his recovery.  I'm glad you pointed out something everyone else didn't, not even Dr. Phil.  Thank you for that - and I hope Sean does keep his recovery as his first priority.  I also hope you are always able to Sas.  Best wishes, Roxy
 
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