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(Original Air Date: 10/25/06) Dr. Phil's guests say they have a home wrecker in their life who has destroyed their marriage. Lisa says her five-month marriage to Sean is already in shambles because of his ex-wife, Kristy. Lisa says Kristy makes hateful phone calls, physical threats and frequent attempts to steal Sean away from her. Kristy says she doesn't want Sean back; she just wants him to be a good father to their kids. Then, Sherry says her daughter, Tammy, talked her into divorcing her husband, J.R. Now, Sherry wants to re-marry J.R., but both her daughters are making her choose between them or him. Tammy and her sister say that J.R. controls their mother and they won't support this reunion. Is Sherry making a big mistake, or are her daughters manipulating her? Join the discussion.

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June 2, 2007, 9:45 am PDT

They'll Do What You ALLOW Them To

I had a 5 year relationship with a man, whose mother continuously tried to pull us apart.

When he moved away to attend college in another province for a period of 10 months, she tried harder.  It took her just 7 months before she succeeded. She had always referred to herself as "The Power", and reminded me that her son would "Always" come back to the power.

In the end, while I was going through the stages of this relationship having ended, and all the emotions, pain and hurt that come with experiences like this, someone said to me: "It was never what his mother did, it was what HE never did about it." How true that was.

 

 
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June 2, 2007, 9:59 am PDT

What wrong is....

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I noticed on this show as well as another I saw recently on Dr Phil, that the women are ending up on the short end of the stick here.  This mom ends up on welfare?  How the heck is that happening in America?  So her ex and his new honey are enjoying a great lifestyle and she gets to raise the kids in poverty and we're going to say, "Now, don't be angry.  Try to move on."  To what a soup kitchen?

We say we value motherhood but the inequity in this is just sickening. 
Why aren't these women getting a better deal in their divorce.  I'll bet if she felt more stable financially, she would be less emotional and resentful and handle the situation with the kids better. 

That the father and mother should both contribute to the finances.   Sean and Kristy's kids are school age so no need for the mother to stay at home, she is capable of getting a job to help with her finances.  So it seems that it is her choice to live off welfare instead of getting a job, which also would make herself fell better about herself.  Sean pays his child support, it would be different if he didnt, then that would be another whole issue.  Kind of funny I was a single mom, and had to work 50 hours a week, including my childsupport to make ends meet.  I wasnt fortunate to be able to live of the system and stay at home with my son.  That's is what I was angry about.  Not getting help from the government while all my friends sat at home and collected a check and food stamps, in addition to child support.  So I had to work for what I had.  My ex husband moved on, but he still payed his responsiblity.  That didnt make me hate him, nor keep him from his child, but what it did for me was show me that I am capable of providing for my son, and teaching him the value of responsiblity and that maybe things dont always go as we plan, but the way he will deal with those issues is how he becomes a man.  Some marriages are good, some are great, some are ok, some are bad, some shouldnt happen, my marriage wasnt good, and I refused to allow my son to grow up in that environment, I was angier in the marriage than I was when I was out of it.   Never stay in it for the kids.  
 
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June 2, 2007, 11:59 am PDT

Are you kidding?

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I noticed on this show as well as another I saw recently on Dr Phil, that the women are ending up on the short end of the stick here.  This mom ends up on welfare?  How the heck is that happening in America?  So her ex and his new honey are enjoying a great lifestyle and she gets to raise the kids in poverty and we're going to say, "Now, don't be angry.  Try to move on."  To what a soup kitchen?

We say we value motherhood but the inequity in this is just sickening. 
Why aren't these women getting a better deal in their divorce.  I'll bet if she felt more stable financially, she would be less emotional and resentful and handle the situation with the kids better. 

Who is to say that Kristy ended up on the short end?  Kristy may have gotten everything in the divorce because, as we learned on the show, Sean was in treatment.  People who live off  "the system" tend to get very comfortable, so why change? You seem to be bitter. 

 
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June 2, 2007, 2:03 pm PDT

you goofed dr phil

i have been in a relationship exactly like this one.  the ex wife needs to be told in no uncertian terms that she is so far out of line that she is the toxic one.

when couples divorce and one or both of the partners are not able to move on they just keep creating toxic and i will bet you that in a year from now the new wife will have divorced the husband because she is just so tired of the crap and negativity that ex wife is spreading.

 

dr phil you should have told the ex wife she is toxic and she needs to get over herself and let the ex husband go.  the only way that crap will stop is when ex wife is exposed for the toxic person she is. in my opinion you let the ex wife off too easy and you gave the new wife more grief that she deserved.

 

maybe you can have a show about how to move on and how to deal with a divorce and what you can do if your ex is being a toxic person.  you had an opportunity to confront the toxic wife with her garbage and you just let her slide.

 

you also needed to tell the husband that if he loves new wife that he needs to tell ex wife to cut the crap out.  that recorded phone message should have been a wake up call to you that ex wife is not going to stop until husband is just as miserable as ex wife is.  husband should tell ex wife that if ex wife cant speak polietly then not to call at all.  the new wife deserves a chance to get to know the step kids without the toxic messages and other excess baggage that the ex wife packs in the kids suitcases.

 

lastly as for the " i am just a single mother" crap, get real lady, you are alone because if your messages that were aired on the show no one wants to hear that. 

 

finially i applaud the new wife for having the courage to be in that mess and hope that things work out for you

 
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June 2, 2007, 2:27 pm PDT

amen...

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Where do you get this "others from the outside".  There are no outsiders.  They are talking about someone's ex's tearing apart their relationship/marriage.  Did you really not get that from the preview... hello.

 

I have seen plenty of marriages sabotaged by ex's.  They make life a living hell because they don't realize that they are not married to that person anymore and they still try to run that person's life.  That is a hard thing for their partner to deal with and if makes it ten times more difficult when there are kids involved.

 

Thank you so much for that input. I love my husband, and he loves me, we have a very strong marriage. but his ex wife goes out of her way to make things as hard as she can, and then plays the " innocent, im disabled and a victim " routine. It makes it so that i dont want his son at our house, just to make her go away. I love this little boy, and hate that i have those feelings. I am trying very hard to give it to the Lord and let him have it. I have to remember that she only has as much control as i let her have, and to much of my dismay, i have allowed her far to much. But these ex's should have resolved thier feelings for thier spouses before the divorce. but thanks for the support of the new wives/husbands......its much appreciated from me.....
 
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June 2, 2007, 4:08 pm PDT

06/01 Home Wreckers

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I'm 46 years old, mother of 3 grown, happy, healty children and in a relationship with a man the same age who became a new father at the age of 40. He's a great guy! I love him with all of my heart and we are, for the most part, happy. He's very good to me and a great father to his now, 6-year-old daughter.

Our problem is his ex, who he believes is bi-polar. She manipulates my boyfriend at every turn and uses their daughter to get her way. When we first began dating, she would call his cell while we were on our dates, and put on his daughter, crying and begging her daddy to come and get her. That stopped when he began to leave his phone in the car! (my suggestion) We also have mutual friends and she has made up incredulous stories about me, called me every name in the book and is just vicious towards me. She has called my boyfriend's bosses and told them that he is abusing his expense account and using drugs, calls his family out of state and makes up stories, calls nearly everyday to pick a fight with him, hangs up, calls back....this can go on for hours! My boyfriend works from home and I work nights, so, I'm here when this happens and it's incredibly frustrating to witness! She manipulates their visitation schedule to ruin our plans, as she knows my work schedule. She's taken his mail from his mailbox, got a lien against his house without his permission, forged his signature....the list goes on and on.

 

I've aske dhim to not accept her constant phonecalls and believe that the only contact she needs to have with him should be limited to her calling to tell their daughter goodnight, important schedule changes, and emergencies. But, that hasn't happened. He believes she cannot control herself and expects me to be understanding about it. He thinks that if I could ignore it and not let it bother me, it wouldn't be such an issue. He tells me that when I approach the subject, especially after a long day of dealing with her, that I only add to his problems and compound them.

 

I'm at a loss here as to what can be done. I've suggested he stop answering the phone and let her leave a message and screen her calls, but, he says that when he has tried that in the past, then, she will ignore his calls so he can't tell his daughter goodnight. He shoots down every suggestion I make, saying he's already tried it and it won't work. This situation is very frustrating!

 

I love my boyfriend and we movedin together a few months ago and we have a great relationship between us and his child. I'm a healthy, happy, mature adult women who just wants a peaceful and harmonious relationship with her mate. I want a normal relationship and I need peace! What can I do to better equipt myself with coping tools? Should I just learn to ignore the craziness and act like it doesn't effect me? I don't want to compound my boyfriends' problems or cause fights by bringing up the subject anymore but, how does it get fixed if no one does anything about it? It seems that everyone in her life would rather just lie there and take it so it will get over with quicker. I can't do that.

 

I also feel she is still in love with my boyfriend because she seems to have a need to be in constant contact with him good or bad and pries into our personal lives too much, as well as her viciousness towards me. She cheated on him during their marriage and left him for the other man, who she is still with. She and my boyfriend have been divorced for 5 years now. I would think that she would have better things to do with her time as I could care less about my ex's love life or who he's seeing ect..

 

Are there any answers out there? Any solutions that we could both live with? We both need a peaceful resolution.

 

sounds like situation. my husbands ex used to call for him everyday. wanting him to come see his son everyday. he was going to church with them every sunday. having dinner with her and her mother. she even invited me to dinner. yeah right she won't spit in my food. she still has feelings for my ex and has asked him to leave me and go back with her. she began to call and harrass me and he did nothing because he liked it because she did that when ever he was with someone other than her. she has used his son aginst him for years and he allowed it. as the years went on he stopped going to her house and she was not allowed to call my house anymore. only his son can call. she said bad things about me and him. she is so jealous and i do not know why because she left him for someone else. he begged her not to let the marriage end but she just went on about her business and that was a long time ago. hon the more you complain about the ex the more he will feel sorry for her and keep all this crap going and i also think your boyfriend is flattered by the attention. he can take steps to put a stop to this. with my situation the ex took the child hundres of miles away to get back at him. now my husband is worried all the time and upset. he talks to his son on the regular and he is now 19 years old. your boyfriend may have to see his ex wife for what she really is through his own eyes. you seem like a nice woman and deserve better. i was in my late 20's when i went through this now i am almost 40 and i let my husband know you better handle her or i am out the door.you don't need none of that bull and the child is only 6 that means 12 more years of her acting a damn fool.  do what you feel is right. do what your heart tells you.
 
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June 2, 2007, 4:15 pm PDT

Are You Insane?

Personally, the ex-wife had every right to have grievances.

 

Be a real man.  Take care of your kids.

 
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June 2, 2007, 9:36 pm PDT

I agree.

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Who is to say that Kristy ended up on the short end?  Kristy may have gotten everything in the divorce because, as we learned on the show, Sean was in treatment.  People who live off  "the system" tend to get very comfortable, so why change? You seem to be bitter. 

So much focus on the ex being evil.  I can see why Dr. Phil didn't go that way.  Nothing good could possibly come from it.

 

The adults ALL need to put their own egos aside and concentrate on who is important.  The kids.  Who now get to see Daddy putting someone else first, and starting a new family.

 

I look at Christy and just see a MISERABLE person.  She's a mess.  Anyone with self worth and dignity doesn't behave the way she does.  What good could come from pummeling the woman with words?

 

Those two people chose each other at one point.  They loved each other and had children together.  They parted ways and now are so angry and self centered they can't see straight.  I HOPE Dr. Phil was able to redirect their attentions to what honestly matters... the existing children who are going to have a hard time of things as it is, who don't need the hateful venom from their mom, dad and step mom compounding things.

 

 
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June 3, 2007, 3:53 am PDT

06/01 Home Wreckers

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Personally, the ex-wife had every right to have grievances.

 

Be a real man.  Take care of your kids.

I disagree. I think Dr. Phil was why too hard on this guy.

 

Kristy is the one who moved the kids 2000 miles away for goodness sake.

 

It is glaringly obvious that she is doing everything humanly possible to keep the kids from him.  Once the voice mail messages were played, everyone should have realized that she is definitely the abuser is this situation and that she is causing harm to her children, her ex husband, and his new wife.

 

Why? Because she is an angry, vengeful person who needs to get some treatment.

 

Does he need to grow a backbone, heck yes, because he has the right to visitation with his children that is not filled with friction. So he needs to put his foot down with Kristy. However, he also has the right to some stability in his life so he can focus on growing his relationship with Lisa.

 

He’s turned his life around, and is probably looking for some desperately needed calm.

 

Sean and Lisa, you have my vote. Don’t let Kristy’s anger and jealously get in the way of your love for one another.

 
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June 3, 2007, 5:38 am PDT

06/01 Home Wreckers

I think the Monter should stay OUT!
 
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