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First, they lost their belongings in Hurricane Katrina, then, these guests say they paid thousands of dollars to a construction company that never made good on contracts to repair their homes. Seventy-eight-year-old Marion says she paid $4,000 to contractors who took her money and ran. Lena, 74, says she lost $29,000 to the same company. Julie and Robert say they paid the same contractors almost $50,000, and Lenny, 83, says he was taken for almost twice that amount. Does one of the contractors take responsibility in a phone showdown with Dr. Phil? Plus, Dr. Phil teams up with some special guests to give the hurricane survivors a few surprises. Talk about the show here.

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October 27, 2006, 8:32 pm PDT

10/27 New Orleans Scam?

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This show made me groan out loud when I first saw the commercials for it being aired the other day. It seems the media loves to make contractors sound like these horrible, dishonest, leaches that are only out there to steal people's money. Yet, contractor's never get their side of the story aired. How about contractors who spend 3 to 6 months working on a job, only to not get paid for their work? What about customers who purposely sabotage a job (i.e. create a leaky water pipe) just to sue the contractor's insurance company for a large settlement? Yup, these things happen all of the time, but the media doesn't seem to care. It's always the homeowner that is the victim. My husband is the most honest, hard-working, loving, family guy in the world. He just started his remodeling company a couple of years ago, and so far things are going well. None of these things have happened to us--yet. But we know many great contractors to whom these horrible things have been done. But they're the bad guys? The public makes it's mind up on who's the guilty party before all the facts have even been presented. It makes is really hard for the good guys to be able to make a living, when people are so suspicious and judgemental right off the bat.

I also am a contractor, 20 years in November. I can't tell you how many times we have been ripped off. I had a young mother  of two cute little blond girls, really cut. She said her husband had left her and the kids and she hadn't checked the mail for a week or more for the check so she would check and call back. five days later her phone is cut off so I drove over to the house and it was empty. The landlord next door said she moved out of state to be with her husband.

She stole $37,000.00 from me. There have been many others. As of this year we have not been paid by insureds that were paid by insurance companies to the tune of $ 169,000.00 give or take a few thousand in unpaid deductibles.

 

Good luck in your business and try to get half up front. But the way the public hears about us I don't think you will. That is how we always end up screwed. They hold the check and demand more AND MORE AND MORE AND MORE BE DONE OR THEY ARE NOT GIVING US THE MONEY. TALK ABOUT GETTING SCREWED.

 

NO ONE EVER HAS A NEWS CONFERENCE FOR US AND HOW WE ARE RIPPED OFF, OR HAS A TALK SHOW ABOUT THE SCAMS HOMEOWNERS ARE PULLING ON US. BOY WOULD THAT BE NICE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!                                              Monica

 
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October 27, 2006, 8:41 pm PDT

no contractor should be allowed in a areaafter a desaster

they dont need to take peoples money, the people need every dime they get to try to put some sort of life back togather, by allowing contractors in all you do is open the door for scammers, if any one wants to put there companies man power up to assist for free fine the president should allow them a healthy tax deduction for there kindness, but i know if i can open my heart to offer to go help with out any money to my name, a contractor with millions in the bank can afford to not go for proffit, help yes but let it be from the heart not for the wallet, greed has destroyer this country, it isnt needed wher nature has just funushed destroying a city,people are more important than money, this country was a great and powerful nation when it was first founded, well hell that isnt true today,we are week if you dont know better than to trust some one you think is going to help you and you louse every dime you had to support a family what happens you have to hire a lawyer to try to recover what they can and no garantees you will get anything, that is a week goverment hell when the people who voted for you louse faith over this a goverment has nothing but money (again greed) we can put men on the moon we can send a probe to pluto hell the goverment even has a space station orbiting this worldthey can do all this BUT WE CANT GET PEOPLES HOUSES REBUILT AND OFF THE DAMN STREETS well im sorry as hell for not being able to understand that,mr president go after these people who took the money and ran line there asses up down town new orleanes in front f a firing squad and start the count down, becouse thats what they deserve, show some balls here where we voted for you,hell set me a tent upkeep your money i dont want it but i will helpand i wont stop in new orleans ill go to texas and mississippi as well there my fellow americans as well less stop pissing and moaning and get off our asses and go help these people they need it damnit and i am sorry im just getting madder and madder just thinking how bad it still is no reason for any human to have to be done this way( damn a dollar)
 
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October 27, 2006, 9:39 pm PDT

Great Show

Quote From: annie_21

Thank you Dr. Phil for caring about those less fortunate & actually doing something to help. These poor people in New Orleans need a hero to step up & more is needed by many for many. I also appreciate your efforts in keeping the general public informed about their dilema's. I still am appalled by the whole tragedy & lack of help from the powers that be. Thanks for being the angel these folks so desperately need! :)
I thought this was a touching show. I honestly did not see this as being against contractors as much as it was about opportunistic people. I don't know where the come from, but they do indeed seem to appear when we are at our lowest don't they? Loved the show.
 
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October 27, 2006, 9:50 pm PDT

Those warranties from used car lots

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I am so happy that  Dr. Phil and his team stepped in to help these people!  It is hard to know where to turn when you are in trouble, then it's even worse when you are given hope from a crook(s) just to have them make off with what little you have left or sometimes more of your future income or as I am experiancing...preventing you from working at all!

 

Warranty companies can do the samething those crooked contractors did!  I had an older S.U.V. that the repair was more than I could afford (a front diferental, $1300) and it seemed logical to get into an economical newer used car with fewer miles  than  repair the older S.U.V. with all the gas expense.

 

I am in sales & must drive alot, a new car was not a practical decission for me because of the high milage I put on these cars.  I went 6 weeks stranded, with out work trying to come up with money with no way to get it.  We're a 2 income family.  We used every penny we could for a down payment on a "good" used 1999 Ford Taurus at a small used car lot in Emory TX. 

 

We had our own mechanic look over the car. It was noted the fluids were normal colors and he thought the car seemed solid. 

 

We needed a car really badly to get both of us on the road again.  This was survival!  I agreed to make payments every 2 weeks knowing it would be tight for the next 7 months, but it felt better to do that than be strapped on a new car payment for years.  I agreed that part of the 7 months would be to cover a "GOLD"  ($500+ we added to the finacing!) warranty with Penn Warranty Corparation.

 

 I was told by the car lot owner, Penn Warranty Corparation was a great company they had used for thier customers for years and would protect me from future car break downs like the one I was coming out of. They (Penn) would provide me a rental car if I should break down so I could work!  He just knew how hard the last few months had been for me being stranded. HA! Big mistake!  I was a fool!

 

After having the car ONLY 2 WEEKS and at least 100 miles from home this car began to miss, and run rough with the warning light on! A call was made to the car lot, with out any offer of help or advise, my fiance took the car to a garage,  just making it there as it was starting to over heat!.  A test of the coolant was made,  it had turned brown instead of the green it was a few weeks ago. It was found to be a blown head gasket.  But of course we had that "Gold" contract from Penn Warrany Corparation to fall back on.  NOT!

 

The Penn Warranty office had the mechanic send a statement of what "he thought" the problem was...but warned him not to do any work or taking apart anything.  His "guess" was a thermostat.  Then the company gave permission for him to take the engine apart.  When asked about a rental car so we could still work, we were told that the engine being taken apart was not the repair!  That it was diagonostic and the repair for this would only be a few hours, not long enough to be given a rental car!  They didn't even send an inspector out to see my car!

 

 This has been going on for FOUR WEEKS now and the car is torn into peices and the work is not authorised after daily calls to Penn Warranty offices.  The mechanics at several shops have said taking apart of an engine is REPAIRING it.  Also the mechanic that has our car said he has worked on 4  90's Ford Taurras this year for the same problem and its pretty common and shouldn't be causing this big of a deal!

 

Penn Warranty Corparation has ignored notes faxed by the mechanic telling them the cause was NOT the thermostat.  After he got permission from Penn to take the car apart

 a test was made of the thermostat in boiling water by the mechanic which proved to him the thermostat did not cause this malfunction.  The thermostat is a $5 part!  The coolant had exhaust leaking into it and Penn Warranty says they cover damage due to leaks.

They just are dodging this and have been rude to the mechanic  when he tries to talk to them.  The job with heads reground would be about $1000.  The other items found and on the bill brings it to about $1300 (gee thats almost the same amount my S.U.V. repair would have been!)  

Penn Warranty Corparation managers have told us to get a lawyer.  We called the car lot owner, he is siding with the Penn Warranty Corparation (after all they pay him to sell these fraudulant warranties!) They even skipped 3 chains of command according to thier "Gold" contract and sent us from customer service straight to dispute with out an inspector to look at our car!  We are being called liars and accused of trying to pull a fast one!  I just need a way to work again, thats all I want.  I even asked the car lot owner for a "loaner" car from thier lot since Penn Warranty wouldn't provide me a rental car in the past 4 weeks. The one they offered wouldn't even start, the seat was broken and who knows what else would have been wrong with it that we would have been held responsible for!   My fiance just walked away laughing at what a Cracker Jack outfit this place in Emory TX. is!

 

 The car lot owner knows I have need for a car to work in order to pay him plus my other bills like rent!  I have missed another 3 weeks going into 4 with out work.  He is threatening to reposess the car (in parts at the garage!) and part of the work being adressed in our claim  he admits to knowing about before we bought the car!  He said he can fix this for under $600.  Thats with out the issues he admits to knowing about and with out adding the towing and he admits the job would be from someone owing him a "favor"!

 

I don't have any buddies owning me favors so I am trying my best to work with the mechanic, pay the creep of a car lot owner, and I will let every one know what scammers Penn Warranty Corparation is and I base my opinions on the Googling I have done today as well as my own sorry experiance with them!

 

Thank you Dr. Phil for helping so many people and exposing crooks for what they do who and they are!

 I to bought a 95 Ford Taurus in Jan. '04'.  Against my better judgement I paid an extra $600.00 for a warranty but can't remember the name. The couple who took me car shopping after me talking to many dealers told me after I got back out to their car that usually those warranties aren't worth the paper they are written on.  But I was glad part of the transmission was covered since that is what went wrong with my ' 91' Mazda protegle` after 350,000 miles.  It served me  well, but had so many things wrong that the transmission guy said it wasn't  worth fixing.  So I had to depend on other people to take me car shopping.  The dealer said his mother owned the car and just wanted another car.  We found it was owned by her and another man in a town about 45 miles away.  I ignored that too.  9 months later the radiator blew and like you I called the warranity place and they didn't cover that.  If I took it to one of two places they might find something which might be covered.  Well that meant towing which they didn't cover and both were in bad neighborhoods.  I had it fixed for about $500.00 which my Mom paid.  She was living with me at the time.  Last July ' 06 ' white smoke started coming out around the hood at a stop light.  I got scared and popped the hood to let it out faster then the light turned green so I put on the emergency lights and was afraid it would catch on fire.  I got out and a sheriff was behind me.  Thank God.  He directed the traffic while 4 super men got my car over to a convience store.  The sheriff  even had a female  sherrif  take me home which was almost  25 miles.  I had just let off my  son whose  Honda  was in the shop. so noone to take me home.  Not many sherrif's do that anymore.  I had my  daughter-in-law  use her mother's car to take me back  and I took it to a mechanic nearby.  He put in another radiator.  Then the next day as my Mom and I were in a drive thru at a bank and the windows down b/c the A/C didn't work.  All of a sudden water and coolant splashed out of the hood and went all over my Mom's arm and the door.  I got out of line and parked.  the bank let me use an office to make 4 phone calls- one to the mechanic, one to a towing comnpany close to the mechanic and one for a taxi and one to see ifa neighbor could take us home to save on a taxi but they weren't home.  Two days later the mechanic called and said the thermostat was stuck just like yours.  It was more money and I gave a neighbor  a good deal of money b/c she drove me all that way in her SUV when gas was about $3.00 a gallon and I know SUV's take alot of gas.  Then when we got there he said they turned on my car and let it idle just to make sure it was ok and it over heated real quick.  This time it was the radiator fan and that's why my A/C didn't work.  I got up there somehow the next day and it was suppose to take just an hour.  I'm on oxygen 20-24 hours  it turned into almost 3 hours.  The main mechanic finally came over and I asked what was taking so long and he said they had to go somewhere else and get a plastic piece that went somewhere on or around or near the radiator fan b/c the car was 11 years old the plastic piece was brittle.  Well thank you for telling me 3 hours later and I'm doing deep breathing trying to stay calm so I wouldn't use oxygen I didn't have.  At least it was a well furnished garage with 4 mechanics so they were faster than one by himself.  I had to charge about $650.00 on a major credit card to get it fixed. including the A/C.  I've since cut up my credit cards.  Said I would ride the bus.  Big Joke!  My son is going thru about the same thing as you and it's been 4 months and the man doing as a favor still hasn't gotten it fixed and now the steering column on my Ford has another " common" problem.  The gear shift lever will only start when you turn it as far on as the lights then switch it from drive to nuetral and keep playing with it till it starts.  A man my son knows that is different from the one that has his car said I could get anoter steering column from a junk yard for $50-75.00 and he would take the old one off and put another one on for $50-75.  I feel like I'm putting in good money after bad.  Please people don't buy those warranties from used car lots.  They only cover things that never go bad.  I wonder if the salesmen get a commission form selling them.  I bet they do!
 
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October 27, 2006, 10:55 pm PDT

THAT'S RIGHT!

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Oh, look. Yet ANOTHER show about New Orleans!  Hey Dr. Phil, did you know that New Orleans was not the only area nailed and still suffering?

WHAT ABOUT OLE' MISS.?

 
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October 27, 2006, 11:01 pm PDT

how can any one look at people who just lost every thing they had

and tell them well you got no money oh well come back when you can pay? and thats what every contractor is saying when they load up millions of dollars worth of equtiment and haul ass to a desaster area and start getting contracts sighned, sorry people it just leaves a very bad taste in my mouth, relly look at the picture here the people who can help the most wont unless you can show them some money to pay with,thats not careing in any way about the people its simply taking advantage of a dasaster and all the victims,the people who can help the least help the most and dont charge one thin dime,wow relly a screwed up world, we have placed the dollar above the very exesistanse of human life, i just knoe god the creator of all life here has simpley got to relly be proud of us, we created something more preshase than life its self a dollar bill$ wow were relly going places here now  lol yeah straight to hell with all these dollar bills atleast we will have something to help keep the flames burning wont we  lol
 
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October 27, 2006, 11:24 pm PDT

10/27 New Orleans Scam?

Quote From: llilfarfa

Oh, look. Yet ANOTHER show about New Orleans!  Hey Dr. Phil, did you know that New Orleans was not the only area nailed and still suffering?
You are absolutely correct.  It is ridiculous that the MS & AL  Gulf Coasts have not received more attention.  Can you perhaps direct  those of us interested to specific areas of need.  Everybody can give to this or that org. without really knowing where the money goes.  That makes some question every $ they donate.  If you could specify certain locations or families, I believe you would get a nice response.

An earlier poster implied that the City of NO or the state of LA  misused funds designated for the levees before and after Katrina.  Just to clarify, neither the City of NO or the State of LA have any control over the condition / maintenance of the levees.  New Orleans is a major port in the US and the levees are completely controlled by the US Army Corps of Engineers.   About all the city / state can do is press the Federal Gov't for bigger, better levees.  All future improvements are pretty much out of the local / state hands.  Have the levees been rebuilt since 8/29/05?  A good part have been - to withstand a CAT 3 hurricane.  Katrina hit at a CAT 4.  If it wasn't  so serious, it would be laughable.

Nagin (Mayer) and Blanco (Governer) are not without fault, by a long shot.  It seems things were just so f'd up from the very beginning.  The levees breaking were not their fault.  But the lack of preparation in evacuating the hospitalized,  elderly,  and poverty-stricken is inexcusable. 

I think someone earlier called NO a soup bowl, or something like that, and questioned the decisions of those who have chosen to move back.  Not to get into an American history lesson, but keep in mind, the Port of N.O. is one of the busiest / most lucrative ports in the country,( I believe its 2nd, after NY, but I'm not positive).  That brings in a lot of jobs and people who work there need a place to live.

And to the poster I initially responded to - I'm serious.  Let us know where you are or of the families that are suffering from Katrina or Rita or whatever...aftermath and people will help.  It shouldn't be all about NO because so many are still suffering elsewhere.  Take care & please post.

 
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October 27, 2006, 11:43 pm PDT

wet socks

 If joy was a liquid my socks would be wet... and I would be standing in a puddle... of pure joy !
How blessed I am when I  see others  hope  restored , families being knitted together and  being blessed in acts of kindness.  Yes >>Yes >>>>Yes...

sure does do the human heart good....

 
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October 28, 2006, 9:05 am PDT

Great Work

Dr. Phil restores hope in alot of people around the country and it makes me cry each time.  He is the greatest and Robin in even better.  Hope they nail the contractors who prayed on the families that were devastated by Hurricane Katrina.  GO GET 'EM!!!!
 
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October 28, 2006, 9:19 am PDT

Thank You!

Quote From: brucetomlin76

i watched the show today. man it touched me. 29 year old man here and it made my cry like a baby. you know it is great what dr phil and other people with some power are doing to help these people. its my time to help. if anyone in the new orleans are need some free help for as long as needed shoot me a email and i will be glad to come help. i can pretty much do anything that is asked and wont charge a penny. will just be honored to help. all i ask is room and board and gas to drive my car down. my email is badassbruce2003@aol.com
Thank god they have people like you.  I must speak these words.  Age donot have anything to do with your feelings.  Your parents raised you the right way.  I plan on moving back to New Orleans by June 2007 might be before then, whatever but I am definitely going back home to live.  Dallas,Texas is a horrible place to live.  If you are not a Texan you will not get a decent jobs.  The only jobs they are offering to Katrina survivors are in Fast food, Grocery stores, and Hotels. The positions are only in Cashiers, Housekeeper and etc.  If you have a Degree here it really don't matter because they are not giving any opportunity to prove yourself and that is the least of some our problems.  I want people to know one thing the people in New Orleans and Gulf Coast did not ask for a Category 5 Katrina Hurricane, it was by the act of God.  I feel we all are being punish for something that we had no control over.  I love New Orleans with everything and everbody in New Orleans including the good, the bad, the crime, the drugs, the low-down politicians, and the good food.  Our food in New Orleans cannot be found anywhere in this entire world.  Once again I thank you from bottom of my heart and please don't give up on the people in New Orleans we mean well and good people
 
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