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(Original Air Date: 10/26/06) Backstabbing takes many forms –- lying, spreading gossip and fueling nasty rumors. Dr. Phil’s guests say the ultimate betrayal didn’t come from a stranger, but from their own flesh and blood! Stacy accuses her younger sister, Christy, of being a traitor. She says Christy reported her and her husband to Child Protective Services for allegedly having child porn on the family computer! Christy sticks to her story, and vows to help put her sister and brother-in-law in jail. How far will she go? Stacy’s 16-year-old daughter claims her Aunt Christy is a liar, and says she’s ruining their family. Can these two sisters overcome the conflict between them, or is their relationship at the point of no return? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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October 26, 2006, 8:10 pm PDT

10/26 Backstabbing Sisters

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I love to follow your quotes!!!  You go girl!!

 

And also......... did you see see sweet concerned auntie Christy look at her distraught niece in the front row with love, concern, affection and regret for what she was putting her through?

 

I didn't - hope someone did

Christy didn't say anything that struck me as actually caring for anyone but herself. This is my opinion of course, it doesn't mean she's lying, it just means I personally see her as an uncaring person.
 

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October 26, 2006, 8:19 pm PDT

10/26 Backstabbing Sisters

Indians, there's a reason why, in a court of law, you aren't supposed to assume anything if the defendant does not take the stand.  YOU DON'T KNOW WHY the father wasn't on stage today. Don't assume it means he's guilty.  There could be many reasons he is not there. 

 

If Stacy's income from her midwife job has been compromised, he might not feel he can afford taking days off from work to appear on the show. 

 

He could be ill.  For all you know he's in the hospital. They didn't say.

 

Or maybe he didn't really want all the publicity around these accusations, because he's embarrassed by them.  That wouldn't mean he was guilty.  Maybe he didn't favor the idea of going on the Dr. Phil show, because he felt they could resolve the problem privately.  You just don't know.

 

Whatever happened to the presumption of innocence?  Why are you assuming he's guilty?  The kids aren't accusing him.  His wife isn't accusing him.  The professionals who investigated are not accusing him.  The only person accusing him is a crazy sister in law who obviously has an agenda, and who is obviously bent on wrecking her sister's reputation, no matter who else gets hurt in the crossfire. 

 

He's innocent until he's proven guilty.

 

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October 26, 2006, 8:22 pm PDT

Christy needs serious help

I find it hard to believe that Christy would go to the lengths she has (including threats to authorities) to destroy her sister's family and satisy her own need for self-gratification. It is appauling that one would take the actions she has when she could be putting her passion to  much better use in helping those who actually need it. People like Christy need to clean up their own backyards before pointing fingers at others. Her Holier than Thou attitude is shameful and sick. The harm she is doing to her own family is cruel and unbelievable.
 
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October 26, 2006, 8:27 pm PDT

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I also feel that Christy has such a huge agenda that she "truly believes" what she is saying and  that she could pass a lie detector test just for that reason.  But that wouldn't necessarily make it true.

 

I do have one question - There was never any mention of Christy and her husband having any kids - (Or did I miss that?) - Could there be an underlying form of jealousy over that issue?

What better way to destroy someone than to take away their kids?  Family or not.  Something seems not right there.

 

I am the youngest of three daughters and was abused by my father after my sisters were grown and out of the house.  Since they weren't there they can't corroborate the memories, but they knew the personality, and when they found out, believed me.  Though this is not something they relish talking about, so I have gone onto counseling on my own. My point being,  there would be that "in the room..in the air..all around you feeling"..and you would know something.  Also, if you tend to be a dramatic type, your memories will often swell to the occasion.

 

I feel for the children most of all - And the only disturbing comment I heard from Bethany was the "I can take care of myself" quote - That is the only hint to me that there may be arguing, or something unhealthy going on.  But then again, older siblings do tend to have the "caretaker" gene very heavily.

 

I hope Christy gets help...and I agree that if she is so"adamant" about helping abuse victims, there are many other areas she could help.

 

What's that old expression, "Physician, heal thyself?" - Well...."Sister, heal thyself".

 

And I hope Dr. Phil can help get to the bottom of this mess, and help both families move on to healthier lives, begin the healing process.

 
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October 26, 2006, 8:30 pm PDT

This is a very sensitive subject

First, this lie detector test they are suppost to be taking...I personally think is a waste of time. Lie detector tests aren't even used anymore as they do not always read acurately. If Christy really believes everything as truth to herself..than she will pass with flying colors.

 

And, as a sister who was brought into this mess, if she thinks there is abuse she should report it. Let everyone do their jobs..see what the results are. If Christy isn't ok with what they all found or didn't find..then get someone else.

 

Christy is NOT right in trying to make her sister lose her job. She accused her of things not even relevant to an abuse situation. And if she cared about her neices and nephews she should be there as support for them. Not threatening them...is that love????

If abuse is going on, those kids do need someone they feel comfortable with, and sorry to say..Christy has not done that at all. (From what I got on the show).

 

And hello...if you write a letter to the police threatening as Christy did...do you think they are going to want to call you back????  I can understand an abused woman not standing for that ..and wanting to fight against it..but do it tastefully as not to make those kids lives more hell or punish them anymore.

 

I can't say who is lying..as I do not know their hearts. And a lie dector test will not do any better either. This whole situation has been blown way way way! out of porportion...and Christy even admitted that.      That's my two cents...

 
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October 26, 2006, 8:33 pm PDT

10/26 Backstabbing Sisters

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Indians, there's a reason why, in a court of law, you aren't supposed to assume anything if the defendant does not take the stand.  YOU DON'T KNOW WHY the father wasn't on stage today. Don't assume it means he's guilty.  There could be many reasons he is not there. 

 

If Stacy's income from her midwife job has been compromised, he might not feel he can afford taking days off from work to appear on the show. 

 

He could be ill.  For all you know he's in the hospital. They didn't say.

 

Or maybe he didn't really want all the publicity around these accusations, because he's embarrassed by them.  That wouldn't mean he was guilty.  Maybe he didn't favor the idea of going on the Dr. Phil show, because he felt they could resolve the problem privately.  You just don't know.

 

Whatever happened to the presumption of innocence?  Why are you assuming he's guilty?  The kids aren't accusing him.  His wife isn't accusing him.  The professionals who investigated are not accusing him.  The only person accusing him is a crazy sister in law who obviously has an agenda, and who is obviously bent on wrecking her sister's reputation, no matter who else gets hurt in the crossfire. 

 

He's innocent until he's proven guilty.

"Whatever happened to the presumption of innocence?  Why are you assuming he's guilty?  The kids aren't accusing him.  His wife isn't accusing him.  The professionals who investigated are not accusing him.  The only person accusing him is a crazy sister in law who obviously has an agenda, and who is obviously bent on wrecking her sister's reputation, no matter who else gets hurt in the crossfire. "

Exactly. I couldn't have said it better myself.
 
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October 26, 2006, 8:35 pm PDT

Backstabbing Sisters

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I've got 3 sisters....all have different ways of backstabbing.

 

Sister #1 - Hides behind her religion.  She tires to portray the "nice church lady" - yet she insults, belittles, gossips, encourages discontent, and thrives on chaos.

 

Sister #2 - Has no religious conviction...she's just plain mean and vile. She too tries to portray a "nice" persona, yet there's no goodness in her.  She has a violent temper and can snap at any given moment. She's physically abusive and enjoys tormenting people.

 

Sister #3 - Mixes religious ideas in with the psychic network channel ideas.  She's unable to think with a clear and grounded foundation - she's lost in space.

   I'd like to know when the part two to this show will be, and how the lie detecter tests went. I hope the one evil sister is proved wrong and she leaves her sister and family alone!!!!!
 
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October 26, 2006, 8:36 pm PDT

Oh People!

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Why don't you do some research and find out how many children grow up being abused in their homes, how many times CPS investigates and says there is nothing wrong, then people keep calling them and one day, guess what?  the child grows up and tells herself, yes I was being abused, however, I didn't want to get my parents into trouble with the law!! 

I had said this earlier but evidently it was not well received!

 

How Many of You are From TEXAS????

How Many of You have Delt with the TEXAS CPS???

I have , first hand experience......

I wont go into details because its too long.

CPS in freakin Lumberton Texas was called on my husbands ex-wife and her husband due to my step-son claiming he was abused!

They did their investigation and took my step-child from his mother and gave him to us (my husband and I) Then they filed charges on his mother and step-father (all for False Claims).

She  nor is He  ever gonna be allowed to work around children or the elderly and this is now on their record that they abused him

 

I know for a fact that the Child was never abused!!... and now he is older he will even admit it (and really regrets it)

 

He even called them on me and my husband one day because he had gotten in trouble at school and his father made him pick up trash outside.... he ran down to his grandmothers locked himself in her bedroom and called 911 ..... when the Cop came out and spoke with both us and my step-child... he came back and told us when he was done working in the yard here that he had a bigger yard he could come clean!!!

 

Later that month CPS was out at our house and investigated us because he told his coach his daddy had hit him (which again was not true) but when they came out here they dropped the case.

Now he did all of this so he could move into his grandmas  (that is what he now admits too)  so he could do whatever whenever and get anything he wants

 

This is a really sad situation and If you read my earlier post It tells you more about how I feel about this situation.

 

 
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October 26, 2006, 8:36 pm PDT

whose (what) side ya on?

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At 16 I went and gave a detailed account of my father's sexual abuse against me.  They investigated by going to the house, asking if it was true and then leaving when it was denied.  That was it.  My own testimony was truthful and broke my heart to make.  It was the most difficult day of my life as I recounted the details.  I'm 38 now and have little faith in the system.

To the sister who is so determined to destroy these people....I think you are screwing this up pretty badly.  No one believes this because of your ruthlessness.  The opportunities to actually help these children are being lost because you are acting so mental.  Take a step back, take a deep breathe, spend a few months working out your issues and then regroup to put a plan in place that will help everyone here.  You aren't helping this at all by acting so outragiously. 

Incest involves cooperation from ALL  in the family. And to all be on the same side. Is this what you are asking of Christie?. If so, what side does she take? Or is she allowed that option? If you have incest in a family, you don't have a family.  If Stacy knew her sister so well, why would she cooperate with Christy and her husband so much in the begginning? And if Stacy knows her husband so well, why would she just get up and run so fast, and then return just as unbiasly back to this man who never showed up today to tell his side of the story?

 

If exposing this incest is destroying then let it be. Since it is a bad thing you are destroying. Incest is bad , family is good. What exactly is it you want Christy to do?. Again, if her accusations are true, getting along is probably not an option. going along with it is all she has. Incest rules are VERY strict, plain and simple.Oh by the way. You are right on one thing. The judicial system protects these people. The system is flawed. .And I had 2 incidents with police as well in reporting incest. No investigating equals no crime. Dont take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.  Blame that one on  the police or child protection . Not Christie.They just ignored me as well. Anyway, Stacie is too mixed up to figure out. She sure knows how to play the victim role though.My bro did the same thing with all his P.C. help, but now he is in prison for rape on a minor.I tried to get along with him on my terms, but it didnt work.

 

 
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October 26, 2006, 8:40 pm PDT

BRAVO and well said...

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Indians, there's a reason why, in a court of law, you aren't supposed to assume anything if the defendant does not take the stand.  YOU DON'T KNOW WHY the father wasn't on stage today. Don't assume it means he's guilty.  There could be many reasons he is not there. 

 

If Stacy's income from her midwife job has been compromised, he might not feel he can afford taking days off from work to appear on the show. 

 

He could be ill.  For all you know he's in the hospital. They didn't say.

 

Or maybe he didn't really want all the publicity around these accusations, because he's embarrassed by them.  That wouldn't mean he was guilty.  Maybe he didn't favor the idea of going on the Dr. Phil show, because he felt they could resolve the problem privately.  You just don't know.

 

Whatever happened to the presumption of innocence?  Why are you assuming he's guilty?  The kids aren't accusing him.  His wife isn't accusing him.  The professionals who investigated are not accusing him.  The only person accusing him is a crazy sister in law who obviously has an agenda, and who is obviously bent on wrecking her sister's reputation, no matter who else gets hurt in the crossfire. 

 

He's innocent until he's proven guilty.

And to add one more thing.....

 

Why would he be there ...... he has been investigated by multiple agencies and they found the charges ungrounded and brought no charges.  He was found innocent to that extent and should feel no need to confront this sister in law further.  He does have a lot more kids at home that needed one of their parents with them with this fiasco going on over the national air-waves.

 
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