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(Original Air Date: 10/26/06) Backstabbing takes many forms –- lying, spreading gossip and fueling nasty rumors. Dr. Phil’s guests say the ultimate betrayal didn’t come from a stranger, but from their own flesh and blood! Stacy accuses her younger sister, Christy, of being a traitor. She says Christy reported her and her husband to Child Protective Services for allegedly having child porn on the family computer! Christy sticks to her story, and vows to help put her sister and brother-in-law in jail. How far will she go? Stacy’s 16-year-old daughter claims her Aunt Christy is a liar, and says she’s ruining their family. Can these two sisters overcome the conflict between them, or is their relationship at the point of no return? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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June 7, 2007, 3:07 pm PDT

back stabbing sisters

I have never seen such a vindictive pain in the a__!!!!! she needs to get a life and get out of her sisters she spends too much time watching lifetime tv and has convinced herself and her husband(who has never met the other one lol) what does cristy do for a living did they say ohhh making threats and lies and drama thats her job because if she had one that brought in a paycheck she would have less time wasting resourses other people need desperatly for real!!!! the brother why didnt you go on the show scared say scared she has got some kind of hold on you buddy i dont doubt they believe what they are saying too bad no one else does very very sad and as for the other husband he is probably trying to make a living and care for his children ya think!!!
 
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June 7, 2007, 3:07 pm PDT

How sad

Wow Christy really comes off like she is so caught up in her own lies that she actually believes they are true.  She sounds almost delusional and the sad thing is she has sucked the brother in.  She really appears to need some type of mental health care.   The authorities take things like this very seriously and if there was anything there at all I have no doubt there would have been charges filed. I can't comment on what happened in her childhood, but as far as the current allegations go the niece sounded very confident with her answers and very believeable to me.
 
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June 7, 2007, 3:20 pm PDT

What???

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Some people like to hide under a  thick black clothing, deep make up and freaky jewelery. And blank stares in their eyes. And they never get discovered at what they are doing because they scare everybody away from looking at them in a just by how they look and dress. And claim reputation as their allie. With the way they live, they have nobody but themselves to blame if their reputations are worthless.They are so lost, never mind worthless reputations. I know a child molester like this.

A lot of the people who wear dark clothes and have "blank stares in they're eye's" is because they are victims of sexual abuse! Not the abusers! I was a victim of incest and I was also a "punk rock chick". Black hair, theatrical make up, punk clothes the whole deal! One part was my rebellion against vacant mindless followers, that were either born lackeys or just to afraid to open their mouths and voice there own opinions, the other part was depression from what my father did to me when I was 2 and 3 years old.

I'm not saying that there can't be child predators who dress like punks or Goths, they hide in every group~ including the priest hood so don't you dare claim that everyone who dresses or goes against the norm is doing it to hide their predilection for molesting children!

Till the day I die I'd rather be labeled a freak than be a mindless lemming!

 

~Nixi

 
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June 7, 2007, 3:23 pm PDT

Sister is a Serial Liar

A couple of years ago, my sister was working for me in the business I own.  She had been a wonderful employee for many years, and we were successful at not allowing our sisterhood to affect our work, or those around us.

 

In the summer of 2005, something happened to her - but I do not know what.  In August, I covered a weeks vacation for her (I live long distance from the business/out of state) and I noticed little things, her desk area very unkept, very sloppy, everything in her work was like that of a different person.  Things weren't being taken care of, she was aggressive with employee's and I had very creditable people approaching me with news that my sister was lying about anything & everything....to customers, employee's, everyone.  And, the lies were sometimes dramatic, and often they were over nothing substantial, but you knew it was a lie.  She got so caught up in her tales, she didn't seem to know the truth from a lie anymore.  I finally had to demote her from office manager to a part time position - but prior to this she had ASKED to go part time to spend more time with her son and family.  After her schedule change and the hire of a new office manager, I visited the office and found her to be extremely aggressive, loud & out of control, uncooperative in regard to working with others.   I was so concerned for her well-being that later that day, I was calling mental health counselors searching for how to ease her into help of some kind!  Prior to my leaving (my own office I might add) my sister became very aggressive towards me by raising her voice (once she learned everyone was out for lunch & we were the only two in the building) & stepping closer to me in my "physical space" and she was yelling about things and going from one topic to the other that I couldn't keep up with what the real issue was - I actually feared her and left the office in tears......we have not spoken since.

 

After that day, I learned from various sources that for example, I had kept her son that summer for his week's vacation.  I took him to the YMCA almost every day, we took walks, went to the pool, ate wonderful dinners.  Later - there are two versions according to her of this......one, she told the office employee's that I promised her son a weeks vacation at my home, he packed his suitcase & went to work with her with the intent to ride home with me.  She tells the office that I never showed up!!!!!  Another person, she told that he did spend the week with me and that I starved him and only fed him herbs!!!!

 

Shortly after those attacks, she convinces my brother (a very timid soul) that I believe he is gay & am out telling everyone.  Nothing could be further from the truth - I love my brother, but, this was her way of getting him in "her court" in her mind, and she used his vulnerability to turn him against me; when in reality she only uses him for what he does for her son.  (She has a loser of a husband - he is not a provider; she is the provider)

 

In the business, she has accused me of forgery, and other horrendous things that makes me think she is telling on her self, and "projecting" onto me.  I've talked to many about this, and we've all concluded she is a "serial liar" and cannot stop.  She doesn't even know she's doing it.

 

I will say that in our childhood years, she had what we thought was a "vivid imagination" and left it at that.  In her adult life, this seems to have continued in the form of lies, lies and more lies.  She has told people she has cancer (when she does not), that she graduated UK (she never went to college), she tells skinny people she was once obese & lost hundreds of pounds (not true) and just all kinds of crap - it never ends.

 

My parents were hurt by this, however they did not ask her to stop the termoil in the family for fear that she would terminate visits with her son.......what kind of daughter would do that??  So, this has put a major strain on our family to the point the family has "died."  They overlook her lies and how they hurt people, and they really do not comprehend why we all don't just overlook her, regardless of how she destroys people. 

 

I was baptized this past Easter and I have also forgiven her (and my brother for allowing her to sway him) in my heart.  I pray that she will get help or has been helped.  I pray that she is not in a position of authority in her employment, and most of all, I pray she is not teaching the habit of lying to her son - though I suspect she is.

 

The saddest part to this, even though I have reached full forgiveness - I really do not want any form of reconciliation with her as an adult. 

 

I wrote this to share, because I know there are others out there who have gone through total hell with a vindictive, back-stabbing, lying sibling.

 

 
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June 7, 2007, 3:23 pm PDT

I think Cristy may be right - though have gone overboard.

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Wow Christy really comes off like she is so caught up in her own lies that she actually believes they are true.  She sounds almost delusional and the sad thing is she has sucked the brother in.  She really appears to need some type of mental health care.   The authorities take things like this very seriously and if there was anything there at all I have no doubt there would have been charges filed. I can't comment on what happened in her childhood, but as far as the current allegations go the niece sounded very confident with her answers and very believeable to me.
Something VERY similar happened to me.  My sister contacted me to tell me her 4 yr old daughter had been touched by our father.  Things started flooding back to me and "weird things" that had always plagued me started making sense.  My parents kept foster children.  I started making calls to foster kids that abruptly left our house after years of living with us even after they were out of foster care.  My suspicions were confirmed.  My sister's story changed from her daughter lied to she never told me that.  It was horrible.  Another sister who had told me my father fondled her suddenly changed her story as well.  When faced with a total disruption of your life and the embarrassment and raw emotions of dealing with abuse happens, people become very weak.   I too had to push to get something done about it and eventually they found almost 50 children that he abused.  My whole family rallied around him and I became the vindictive sister who was out to get my father & sister.   My father was convicted of 5 felonies and went to prison.  To this day I have not spoken to them, my sister still denies that she ever told me about her daughter and they all think I paid off the judge, prosecutors & police.   The bottom line.  I gave up my entire family to save children & I would do it all over again.  I don't think Cristy is crazy.  I genuinely feel that something was on that computer, I think Stacie is in denial.   There may not be sexual abuse, but I feel there is abuse going on and I admire Christy for doing something about it.  I don't think she should have taken a chance on ruining her sister's career but I do feel she did the right thing by reporting it.   It takes alot of courage and soul searching to do what Christy did.   I guess we'll all find out who is telling the truth when the polygraph comes back but I have a sneaky suspicion Christy will pass!!!  I am VERY proud of her. (and no I have never met the woman nor do I know her)
 
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June 7, 2007, 3:24 pm PDT

MOVE ON

I AM GLAD TO SEE EVERYONE ELSE THINKS THIS LADY IS NUTS, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH I AGREE THAT SHE SHOULD SUE HER AND I  DONT EVEN BELIEVE IN LAWSUITS, BUT THIS WOMAN NEEDS TO PAY FOR THE HARM SHE HAS DONE TO THIS FAMILY.
 
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June 7, 2007, 3:25 pm PDT

06/07 Backstabbing Sisters

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Wow Christy really comes off like she is so caught up in her own lies that she actually believes they are true.  She sounds almost delusional and the sad thing is she has sucked the brother in.  She really appears to need some type of mental health care.   The authorities take things like this very seriously and if there was anything there at all I have no doubt there would have been charges filed. I can't comment on what happened in her childhood, but as far as the current allegations go the niece sounded very confident with her answers and very believeable to me.
This is my sister 100%.  I posted a message just a few minutes ago - my sister is literally a "serial liar."  Everyone around her knows it and it is so sad how she has destroyed my family, especially the elders.  One doesn't know when they first meet her, but a few conversations, you realize she is very caught up in & crossing up even her own tales!!
 
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June 7, 2007, 3:28 pm PDT

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I'd like to know the results of the lie detector tests.  Has anyone seen a follow-up show?

Yes Dr. Phil I too would love to know if Christy was woman enough to take the lie detector and what happend after the show!

 

 
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June 7, 2007, 3:30 pm PDT

A SISTERS HATE: WHY?

From watching todays program I only saw hate..  I saw it in the accusers eyes, I saw it in her body language, I saw it in her words.  She DID NOT NOR HAS EVER CARED ABOUT HER SISTER, much less her sisters children.   She has a deep underlying HATE for her sister.   Why would she file fraud? charges?   This woman is trying to DESTROY HER SISTER BY ANY MEANS AVAILABLE   I think she would be capable of  ANYTHING..  You could see it in her eyes and face,  She had no remorse, no feelings, no compassion.  I think the guy with this gal is trying to frame the sister.  I'm wondering if the accuser COULD  NOT  have children or did she want a lot of children and could not have them?   There is a lot of unanswered questions about her. She needs to be told "when you point a finger at someone, your pointing 3 at yourself"   I think CPS in Texas does a pretty good job.   I sure would not want this woman in my group of friends ..or family or living near me. or living near anyone I knew!!
 
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June 7, 2007, 3:37 pm PDT

06/07 Backstabbing Sisters

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Something VERY similar happened to me.  My sister contacted me to tell me her 4 yr old daughter had been touched by our father.  Things started flooding back to me and "weird things" that had always plagued me started making sense.  My parents kept foster children.  I started making calls to foster kids that abruptly left our house after years of living with us even after they were out of foster care.  My suspicions were confirmed.  My sister's story changed from her daughter lied to she never told me that.  It was horrible.  Another sister who had told me my father fondled her suddenly changed her story as well.  When faced with a total disruption of your life and the embarrassment and raw emotions of dealing with abuse happens, people become very weak.   I too had to push to get something done about it and eventually they found almost 50 children that he abused.  My whole family rallied around him and I became the vindictive sister who was out to get my father & sister.   My father was convicted of 5 felonies and went to prison.  To this day I have not spoken to them, my sister still denies that she ever told me about her daughter and they all think I paid off the judge, prosecutors & police.   The bottom line.  I gave up my entire family to save children & I would do it all over again.  I don't think Cristy is crazy.  I genuinely feel that something was on that computer, I think Stacie is in denial.   There may not be sexual abuse, but I feel there is abuse going on and I admire Christy for doing something about it.  I don't think she should have taken a chance on ruining her sister's career but I do feel she did the right thing by reporting it.   It takes alot of courage and soul searching to do what Christy did.   I guess we'll all find out who is telling the truth when the polygraph comes back but I have a sneaky suspicion Christy will pass!!!  I am VERY proud of her. (and no I have never met the woman nor do I know her)

On the flip side - my sister has accused me of "starving" her son when he vacationed with me, & other ridiculous things, when in REALITY, it is she and her husband who are irresponsible parents.  My husband and me are successful, have a good marriage and are happy - all of the things my sister deeply despises about us out of her jealousy.  So, what she does is she comes up with ridiculous, horrendous lies about us, she "projects" the things she is actually doing on to us - I suppose to "elevate" her own image.

 

Please don't assume that just because today's show touched on child abuse that the accusing sister is telling the truth.  After going through hell and back with my own sister - I could see right through today that the accusing "all mighty" sister is also a serial LIAR.  Her sister should SUE HER for damages to her character and emotional distress, if not for harassment as well.

 
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