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Don't miss the first of a multi-part event so riveting, Dr. Phil needed three days to tell the whole story. Bonii, a desperate grandmother, sent Dr. Phil a video showing how her 3-year-old granddaughter, Kaylee, hysterically reacts when she returns from visits with her father, Jeremy. Bonii and her daughter Krista, Kaylee's mom, are accusing Jeremy of molesting Kaylee for the last year. Jeremy maintains his innocence, and says that Bonii and Krista are coaching Kaylee to say bad things about him. Both sides bring a video to prove their point. What does Dr. Phil think of the parents' actions? In a dramatic move, he calls a time-out during the middle of the show to have one-on-one conversations with each parent. Are Jeremy and Krista being honest with Dr. Phil? They agree to be put to the test. Dr. Phil vows to find out the truth, and make sure Kaylee has a safe home. Join the discussion and tell us what you think.

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November 3, 2006, 7:48 am PST

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I can not belive what I am seeing right now. That poor child. First of all I belive that the father is LYING!!!!! Why do you have to think for 5 min wheather or not he put his toung in her mouth???I am a mother of 4, and I can tell you right know that I have never put my toung in any of there mouths, and I do not even have to take 5 seconds to think about it. I also think that the mother needs to protect her daughter.If he is doing it or not ( and I think he is ) that poor baby's reaction to going with him speeks for itself. I would NEVER send my child with someone if they were clinging to me with dear life telling me that they hurt them. And if I was ordered by the court to send my child to someone that I belive is hurting them then I would be gone, never to be found. When you become a parent you are to do WHATEVER it takes to protect your children. And in my opinion  sending your child to someone that you belive is harming her is abuse in itself.
 
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November 3, 2006, 7:48 am PST

Dr.Phil!

Dr. Phil,

I've said it before to you and I will say it again, Children's Services is a joke! If this young mother does not live in Mansfield, Ohio, then let me tell you that there are at least 2 Children's Services that do an incredibly poor job of protecting children. I would stand nose to nose with you and say it if that would help you to understand that.

 
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November 3, 2006, 7:49 am PST

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Dear Dr Phil,

 

There is an issue about this story and others like it that I just dont understand.  My family was torn apart by the same issue.  My Mother chose to stay with the man who was the perpetrator.  What I dont get is if this little 3 year old girl, who is screaming and telling about her Father touching her inappropriately.  I say inappropriately because that seems to be the only way she can articulate it she is after all only 3,  if her mother and grandmother are so sure that it is true why in the name of all that is holy do they keep sending her back to this monster?  In my opinion she is getting a double whammy.  From the pedophile and they ones who are supposed to be her protectors and her caretakers.!   They are mandated as the protectors to keep her safe, even if they have to move, hide her, run etc.

 
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November 3, 2006, 7:53 am PST

Something did happen!

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How can he even suggest that maybe he did something while he sleepwalking? Did I put my tongue in her mouth??? hummm Ihave to think... WHAT? Are you kidding...This man has SOMETHING to hide. The Mother should have done something LONG ago I am disgusted that she has to live like that with either one of them. Why are those people allowed to have children? We need a license to drive, get married, perform some occupational duties, and NOT to have children. Now this poor little gile is stuck with obviously low class trashfor parents.(this regardless of income),

Thank God someone brought Dr. Phil into this situation. Everyone taking the lie detector test I think has things they should be ashamed of regarding the care of that beautiful baby girl.

 

What a shame!

While I understand that both parents and others involved love this child: The father is definately

not telling the whole truth.  He has to 'think' about weatehr he did something as ugly as use his

tongue on his little girl to feed her cake?  He had to 'lock' the bathroom door to change her diaper while at her birthday party after not seeing her for such a long time and he did not reassure this child  using 'safe' when the drama happened for visitation pickup?  I agree the Mom is probably rewarding her daughter with emotional attention BUT a Mom thinking her child may be being abused and hearing such things from her, well yea I would think she would be emotional and coddling?  The father: he was in a relationship with a minor, got her pregnant and married her?  Only got a mimimal charge for that? Replied back on it as if not a big deal and

the injury while this little girl was at his home under his care, reported and he still has unsupervised visitations proves that the Mother is correct on the system not caring enough: because the alligations was there first, injury second and child obviously last thought for safety!

 I have seen the systems that is suppose to protect the children fail a few times in life and there is the good, the bad and the ugly even in that system!  The ball was dropped for this child.

Fact: very few child mollesters admit to thier crime and will continue to harm children until they stopped!  Rarely do they consider the victim before themselves! 

I'd like to also add that sexual crimes have always happened, it is ugly but at least in the past decade our systems do more about it unlike so many generations of vicitims it was kept secret.

 

 
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November 3, 2006, 7:55 am PST

Kaylee

Yes, I'm sorry, but this looks pretty clear to me! I'd be SHOCKED if this came back negative. This man did it and wouldn't take a rocket science to tell this. I've only watched this 15 min. Come on here! Although polographs may not be concrete, they're certainly the best thing we have and I'm sure it will prevail, and not because he's nervous!
 
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November 3, 2006, 8:01 am PST

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In that episode you could see that the dad was backsliding when you took him off stage. The mother clearly is doing what she thinks is in the best interest of that child. Being only two years old that child doesnt have a clue what is going on and i dont think she should be allowed to go back to her fathers until ya'll have justified if the accusations are true or not.  Havung been raped when i was 5 by my uncle i do believe that the little girl is tellin the truth
 
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November 3, 2006, 8:12 am PST

Social Services

Dr. Phil, I have to question you on what you said about Social Services. While I realize this department is helpful in many ways, they are nowhere near the standard you seem to think. They are overworked, underpaid and, yes, they do make mistakes! There has been plenty to speak of in my family alone! It is quite disheartening, to say the least.

I know you're not basing what you will do about the tragedy that is going on in this family based on Social Services, but I had to speak up. It is an area that needs help, funds and more workers.

 
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November 3, 2006, 8:16 am PST

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Dr. Phil,

 

I watch your shows with admiration--you have given advice which I have used in my daily life situations, until today.  I saw the previews for this show and I knew that I needed to watch it.  Anyone that touches their children inappropriately, should be put away.  Approximately, 10 years ago, I went through a very hard divorce, I had encounted sexual, verbal and physical abuse from my ex-husband, he is an alcoholic.  At that time, we had 2 small children which witnessed alot of the abuse. Seperation finally came when he locked the kids in the car with the windows up-for hours and went in and passed out.  I reported him and we had to move out. My life changed after that, we went through court hearings and the biggest waste of my time and my kids time- Child Protective Services. I became the victim, it didn't seem to matter what the facts actually were, my rep would miss appt's, not return phone calls, not show up at his house like she was suppose to  and act as if what the kids encounted (being locked in a chicken coupe, seeing their dad choke his new girlfriend etc) was no big deal.   I took matters in my own hands, reported her and got someone that actually worked with my kids, after all the facts were looked at, court etc., my ex-husband lost custody of his kids due to the environment he was exposing the kids to.  You have not worked with all CPS workers, not all of them do their jobs the way they are suppose to.  You have not lived through my eyes, or my childrens, you should be careful what you say on national TV because even you are not always right.  Thank you..

I have to agree on that one with you. I was the child in a bad situation and CPS just blew it off.  My history with them is too long to go into right now, but it made me feel like I was trapped and there was nobody to go to.  And in return I have PTSD and sociel anxiety disorder.  No, CPS does NOT always do what they are supposed to do!  All to often they are overloaded and because of that, they brush aside what may seem to be less inportant at the time.  I know this not only from going through what I did, but I know someone who works for them and have heard many stories.  So, I have to give the mom credit because she probably isn't lying!  I can't imagine what she is going through if that is really what is going on with her little girl!  I have 2, and would never be able to handle that kind of a situation. 
 
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November 3, 2006, 8:21 am PST

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Dr. Phil,

I've said it before to you and I will say it again, Children's Services is a joke! If this young mother does not live in Mansfield, Ohio, then let me tell you that there are at least 2 Children's Services that do an incredibly poor job of protecting children. I would stand nose to nose with you and say it if that would help you to understand that.

You are absolutely correct, and for him to say otherwise is a HUGE slap in the face for me and so many others!  Don't get me wrong,  I think Dr. Phil is awesome!  He is intelligent and an excellent show host. But to speak how he did to her and say what he did about CPS, was just flat out wrong!  Of coarse CPS is going to work well when he is involved. DUH!
 
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November 3, 2006, 8:25 am PST

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Dr. Phil

 

Can't you see this Dad is a liar!!!!  He lied on your show.  Jeremy  first said he went to look for a diaper and then changed his story to he asked Krista where the diapers were and she said in a trash bag. 

 

This child is SCREAMING not to go with her Dad.  That is a NUMBER ONE CLUE!!!!!! 

 

I am outraged that with this show...it makes me sick to think this child has to continually go through this each time she goes with her Dad.

 

roni

A child screaming to not go is a big neon sign that something is very rotten in this.

I highly doubt Dr. Phil did not observe a liar or lies but he also has to do what is best for the child, if he mishandles this that child may become more victimized.

I so agree, why would he 1- after so long not seeing this daughter need to change her? She didn't know him as anythig long enough for any kind of parenting responsibilities by him?

                        2-why did he 'lock' the door? Thats obsurd! again he hadn't seent his child in a long time, she had to be scared, she did not know him!

                        3-The injury while he had visitation is definately more than enough to make any decent Mom be emotional, compasionate and yes overly coddling to her child who the courts is forcing her to send with a suspected child abuser!

                        4- he had to 'think' about what might have happened to be misconstrued as sticking his tongue in his daughters mouth?  Hell no, he had to think is it possible they have a picture or film of it?

 I so agree!  It is sick this child is going through so much emotional destruction and being forced to go with anyone after such a display of utter fear in her eyes regarding being with that person.

Parents liars?  Well what I seen was  a child begging  pleading with her mother to not go, fear in her eyes, heart breaking and such a pathetic goodbye to her Mom as if it is possible she'd never see her again!  The child did tell us all more than words: her eyes, her voice and the tone of dispare sounded out so absolutely true regardless of anything said by anyone else!

 
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