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Topic : 11/03 Shocking Accusations

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Created on : Friday, October 27, 2006, 02:27:37 pm
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Don't miss the first of a multi-part event so riveting, Dr. Phil needed three days to tell the whole story. Bonii, a desperate grandmother, sent Dr. Phil a video showing how her 3-year-old granddaughter, Kaylee, hysterically reacts when she returns from visits with her father, Jeremy. Bonii and her daughter Krista, Kaylee's mom, are accusing Jeremy of molesting Kaylee for the last year. Jeremy maintains his innocence, and says that Bonii and Krista are coaching Kaylee to say bad things about him. Both sides bring a video to prove their point. What does Dr. Phil think of the parents' actions? In a dramatic move, he calls a time-out during the middle of the show to have one-on-one conversations with each parent. Are Jeremy and Krista being honest with Dr. Phil? They agree to be put to the test. Dr. Phil vows to find out the truth, and make sure Kaylee has a safe home. Join the discussion and tell us what you think.

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November 3, 2006, 5:09 pm PST

I agree

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I keep thinking maybe Dr. Phil was just trying to put the "Father" at ease when he questioned the Mother aboout CPS and whatnot...surely he knows of cases where they screwed up.

I definitely agree here. Although I do not agree with the statement Dr. Phil made, I also feel that he had to come into this whole situation nuetral. I definitely think that Dr. Phil was trying to put the father at ease. It makes sense. Clearly, Dr. Phil knows CPS messes up a lot, it is all over the news (Nixmary Brown being a recent publicized case where the results were unfortunate to say the least). At the same time I also agree that Social Workers are OVERWORKED. They do not get paid a fraction of what they should for the work they do. Their work is stressful and very sad. I am sure when the mom described what CPS said, she was exaggerrating a bit, but there is no doubt in my mind that this is another case that has "slipped through the cracks".

 

Another note I would like to add...why the hell didn't the mother run away!!!! I know if I thought someone was doing this (let alone the father of my child) I would not listen to ANY court orders. I would run far away from that sick F%$@. I am sick to my stomach and cannot stop thinking about this sad sad case. My heart goes out to this little girl.

 
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November 3, 2006, 5:10 pm PST

What is thed mother,father,grandmother,step-mother doing to the 3 yeard child.

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I keep thinking maybe Dr. Phil was just trying to put the "Father" at ease when he questioned the Mother aboout CPS and whatnot...surely he knows of cases where they screwed up.
I hope that when the father take the test that he will be found to be telling the truth. and why did he had to think about the question's that Dr. Phil was sking him. He seem like he was space out from using to much drug.
 
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November 3, 2006, 5:10 pm PST

Poor Baby

To me that dad seems overly anxious and seems to stumble over his words. I don't believe in being judgemental, but does anyone else see the body language that SCREAMS Liar! I hope to God that I am wrong. I pray for Kaylee and her family, they all seem to need a lot of help. If either side is lying then I truly am saddened that she is being brought up in such a disfunctional environment, and justice should be served no matter what for the sake of that innocent child.
 
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November 3, 2006, 5:11 pm PST

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Even that little, if she was molested, it will leave permanent damage.

 

I could be wrong, but you seem to imply that if the molestation is perpetrated when the child is young enough, then everything should be okay, she won't remember a thing, she'll be fine.  Is that correct?

No...never in a million years would I think it was okay. Even if she couldn't remember it, it's NOT OKAY! I was hoping (questioning) that maybe the healing process would be easier for this poor girl if she couldn't remember the details.

 

 

 
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November 3, 2006, 5:11 pm PST

why return the child for visits?

just a simple question that keeps coming to mind: 

 

what mother would return, time-after-time, a child into the custody of a father she believes to be a molester?  for that matter, to return that child to a possible molester even once would be absolutely unthinkable.  so what if she violates a court ordered visitation?  her allegiance is to her daughter. 

 

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November 3, 2006, 5:12 pm PST

Not so Innocent Dad

I watched this with an open mind. My flag was raised when even the father admitted to taking his daughter, whom he has not seen for nearly two years, into the bathroom, locked the door, took off her diaper and had her bare. I mean come on. Everyone that I know, that when you change a diaper, you find an area, lay them down, take off the dirty diaper, then replace it with a clean one. Why take her to the bathroom, shut and lock the door?

 

Why would a three year old keep talking about her pee pee, and have documented proof that she had a problem with the area while in his care?

 

When Dr. Phil spoke with the father alone, more flags were raised. HE HAD TO THINK, THINK, about if he put her tongue in his daughter's mouth with cake on his tongue. I wouldn't have to think about it for a moment. When asked if he was molested, his face went kind of funny, like he was caught, and didn't want to go there. Then he had to THINK yet again if he knew if any of his friends were molested. Again, with a funny look on his face.

 

I have seen kids being torn apart when they have to be shuffled from parent to parent. It isn't pretty. Especially when they are young, and uncomfortable with going back and forth. Their lives are torn apart.

 

And regarding the CPS, I believe it. Dr. Phil, not all CPS workers are wonderful. I know that some are very diligent, but some are tired with a crazy work load. Some may feel an instant sympathy with the father. So, don't be so judgemental. I knew of a child left alone every day, with a five year old mentality at the age of 7. His mother was too busy with her life, and left him home alone from 5pm til about 11pm. with a house door that the wind blew open constantly. No food, just left alone. CPS came out after my phone call, found that the child was left alone, removed him from the home, and gave him back to his mother the next day with a slap on the hand, and told the mother not to do it again. She just upped and moved.

 

Child support enforcement officers sometimes take pity on the fathers, and wonder why a mother with children from her ex husband would want to demand child support when their ex is struggling. (working under the table so he won't have to make child support payment).

 

So, no, I don't think that the father is so innocent. He is just hoping that he can get away with it. Though, to be honest, I don't think that he wants to hurt her, I think that he has some guilt, but he doesn't want to own up to it, in fear of facing charges.

 
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November 3, 2006, 5:12 pm PST

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how does everyone expect the mother to act when she believes that her daughter is being sexually molested??  I would have been holding on to her as tight as I could too.

 

She had a torn labia.  come on.  that just does not happen without someone knowing how it happened.

i know how i would act.he would never ever see his daughter again.you ask how do you think a mother should act.thats easy.but i can't say it on this board.i know what i would do if i ever found out someone was molesting my child even now and my son is now 29 years of age./heb would'nt live to see another day and he would hope the cops found him before i did

 

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November 3, 2006, 5:13 pm PST

crying for help

As an adult who was molested as a child my heart goes out to this little girl. someone needs to desperatly help her. she is crying out for help and if no one comes to her rescue she will have great difficulties through out her life. This will not only affect her life but will also effect her in  the way she will raise her children when she becomes a parent. Also if no one believes her and she realy is being molested it will teach her to hold things in since the one time she needed help as a child no one came to her aide.   

 

the sad part about this whole story is that this is not the first time a child has been molested and still when we hear about it we are all in shock and put the child on trial and not the molestor. Also if this is not handled properly this little girl may grow up believing that this is what a man is suppose to do and ultimatly lead to future molestations. i have a daoughter now and i know that i am overly protective of her due to my past experiances.If this was my daughter i would be a fugittive right now in order to keep my child safe.please listen to her cries, shes hurting more than any one could know and the long term effects can lead down a long and lonely road.

 
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November 3, 2006, 5:14 pm PST

NO WAY

After watching the show one thing I cant bring myself to understand is HOW did the Mom let her daughter go back over there after she came home saying "They touched my pee-pee"?  I have only been a Father for 3 months , but I am ABSOLUTELY positive I could never let my child go back to a place where someone has violated them!  If she honestly believed  she was being molested, why in Gods name would she let her keep going?  I don't care if I faced jail time, I would never let that happen. That poor little girl is going to be scarred from this and I hope someone can help her!

 
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November 3, 2006, 5:15 pm PST

Yeahhhh

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how does everyone expect the mother to act when she believes that her daughter is being sexually molested??  I would have been holding on to her as tight as I could too.

 

She had a torn labia.  come on.  that just does not happen without someone knowing how it happened.

I AGREE.....TORN LABIA IS ENOUGH EVIDENCE FOR ME.....HOW THE HELL DOES CPS EXPLAIN THAT?
 
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