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Topic : 11/03 Shocking Accusations

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Don't miss the first of a multi-part event so riveting, Dr. Phil needed three days to tell the whole story. Bonii, a desperate grandmother, sent Dr. Phil a video showing how her 3-year-old granddaughter, Kaylee, hysterically reacts when she returns from visits with her father, Jeremy. Bonii and her daughter Krista, Kaylee's mom, are accusing Jeremy of molesting Kaylee for the last year. Jeremy maintains his innocence, and says that Bonii and Krista are coaching Kaylee to say bad things about him. Both sides bring a video to prove their point. What does Dr. Phil think of the parents' actions? In a dramatic move, he calls a time-out during the middle of the show to have one-on-one conversations with each parent. Are Jeremy and Krista being honest with Dr. Phil? They agree to be put to the test. Dr. Phil vows to find out the truth, and make sure Kaylee has a safe home. Join the discussion and tell us what you think.

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November 5, 2006, 6:46 am PST

polygraph

I also wanted to ask about how the reliability of polygraph tests.  They aren't admissable in court for more than one reason.

 

http://antipolygraph.org/

http://davesource.com/Fringe/Fringe/Information/The_Lie_Behind_the_Lie_Detector.pdf

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2006-06-26-mri-lie_x.htm

 

 

 
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November 5, 2006, 7:11 am PST

sick

This all makes me sick. This little girl is destroyed. Great job parents. I was infuriated watching this. I can't understand how in the world THE MOTHER lets her daughter go to his house & just says "Have fun!" when the little girl is screaming & is going to his house to get molested! What is wrong with you people? No way. I'd skip the country. I'd be out. End of story. NEVER would my child be placed in that position, especially voluntarily by ME. So I blame the mother for a lot of this. Let the cops come for me!!! I'll show them the hospital report of the little girl having a rip on her labia. I am so angry that this happens in this country. Anywhere. No wonder kids are messed up. This little girl will NEVER BE OK. EVER. Her whole life is changed now. How she feels about herself is changed forever. She will have more problems than anyone can fix. She is more likely to be abused by boyfriends, raped, and to commit suicide now. Great job parents! I just don't understand how all of them can do this. I would go to the end of the world before my children would EVER feel as though I don't love them. I would go to jail before I would lay my daughter in the hands of someone who could hurt her. I am just so angry. And the father....he will meet his maker one day & that is the one thing that gives me comfort. He ruined her, he will pay. Have no doubt. I hope he knows that even in jail, they don't like child molesters. He will get torn apart in jail. How about you all look into her eyes. Look at the fear you've created. The spirit you've killed. She's a baby. If you don't want her, give her to someoned who does. She isn't leverage. I'll take her for cryin out loud! I'll pray for her safety & happiness. Please help her someone.
 
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November 5, 2006, 7:12 am PST

CPS - DOES NOT PROTECT CHILDREN-

Quote From: barbara22

I so agree with you.

 

I'M A RESIDENT OF NORTH CAROLINA AND CAN TELL YOU THAT THE CPS OR DSS IS A JOKE IN NORTH CAROLINA. MY DAUGHTER HAS BEEN REPORTED TO CPS FOR HER THREE CHILDREN IN THREE DIFFERENT COUNTIES IN THE PAST 3 YEARS. I WAS TOLD BY HER THAT THEY CALL IN ADVANCE TO LET HER KNOW THEY ARE COMING FOR A REVIEW. THIS LATEST INCIDENT THEY WENT TO HER HOME TWICE AND DECIDED IT WAS A SAFE ENVIRONMENT  AND CLOSED THE CASE. I HAVE BEEN IN COURT WITH HER SINCE SEPTEMBER SHOWING PICTURES OF DOG FECES ON THE FLOOR, MEDICATION WITHIN REACH OF CHILDREN, CHEMICALS WITHIN CHILDRENS REACH, ALCOHOL IN THE OPEN...ETC. AFTER THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR A LAWYER...I WAS AWARDED VISITATION ONCE A MONTH WITH MY GRANDKIDS!! DUE TO FACT NORTH CAROLINA DOESN'T HAVE GRANDPARENT RIGHTS.....UNLESS THE JUDGE FINDS THE PARENTS.."UNFIT". THIS HAPPENED...AND FOUR WEEKS LATER THE JUDGE ALLOWED HER TO MOVE OUT OF STATE! NOW FOR MY VISITATION I HAVE TO TRAVEL 7 HRS. MY NEXT MOVE IS TO SPEND MORE MONEY TO MAKE SURE THE COURT HOLDS HER ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN.(NEEDLESS TO SAY THERE IS ALOT MORE TO THIS STORY).  MY DAUGHTER HAS NEVER HELD A JOB AND LIVED ON GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE SINCE THE KIDS WERE BORN. SO, GOD IS THE ONE LOOKING OUT FOR THESE CHILDREN....THE SYSTEM LETS THEM ALL DOWN!!! PLEASE DR. PHIL LOOK MORE INTO THIS SO CALLED " CHILD PROTECTION AGENCIES'. YOU ARE THE ONE THAT CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN'S LIVES.

I WILL KEEP THEM ALL IN MY PRAYERS,

GOD BLESS

 
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November 5, 2006, 7:21 am PST

Coaxing

You can perhaps coax a child into saying things, but you CANNOT coax a child into acting and responding the way that Kaylee did. 
 
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November 5, 2006, 7:25 am PST

11/03 Shocking Accusations

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5) Why would a parent who hasn't been in the picture until age 2, go and change her diaper the first time he sees her??? Seems odd to me. On the other hand, would he molester her on the first visit??

  Why not,  maybe taking the child into a locked bathroom while others were right outside celebrating the child's birthday might be  a real high for a pedophile, figure door's lock, gives him a minute to pull himself together but didn't give enough time to put child's pants on.  Could be the tension of getting caught added to his pleasure.  Why not molest on first visit, he might not have even thought there would be a second visit.  Maybe the first visit gave such satisfaction he had a second, thirf and than got her alone at his place.  

 

We do know he likes highs from his admitted drug use.  Of course he tries to make himself look overly truthful by saying he had a bad drug habit and than qiuickly states just marijuana nad it was in the past etc.  His only fauly=t is he loves his daughter so much he is trying to take her from her mother, the 14 year old he was having sex with.

Well believe me I think he did it and I am not saying he didn't molest her on the first visit. I would just think that was a big risk that she might tell her mom right away. I am in no way saying that he didn't molest her on the first visit but it certainly surprises me that he would do it right off the bat.
 
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November 5, 2006, 7:30 am PST

11/03 Shocking Accusations

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What about the stepmom?  Why is she left out of any accusation?  I'd look at her as closely as I'd look at the dad if I were in charge of this case.

Stepmom is the child's other "parent" while at the dad's house.  The stepmom could very easily be molesting that poor baby when dad's not around and not looking and it happens ALL THE TIME (women molesting babies).  SOMEONE  tore that child's labia.  It did NOT tear itself while jumping from the couch (that comment angered me, as the dad assumes we are all stupid idiots to believe that theory for even one second).

SOMEONE tore it.  It doesn't tear itself.

She never comments either.  She's probably guilty as dirty sin.
I agree with you 100%! She looks like the wicked step-mother from hell! And she doesn't seem to really care about the child so maybe she is trying to make her little step-daughter go away permenantly.I think the dad is in on it. The little girl told CPS daddy touched her but I think the step-mother is the one trying to make it obvious by injuring her and then making the trip to the ER. I dont think she cares about the child whatsoever so that would probably make it easy for her! She seemed to have a problem when she was asked to take the lie detector so I am curious to see if she does take one. The dad gave his excuses for failing his test (more then likely because he is going to fail). She wasn't creative enough to come up with any excuses!
 
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November 5, 2006, 7:40 am PST

11/03 Shocking Accusations

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1. IF a parent KNOWINGLY makes a false molestation charge against the other parent, the other parent should be given sole custody of that child (if that parent is fit).

 

2. WHY are parents so selfish? To subject a child to divorce (and treat them as a chess piece instead of a growing sponge that needs love from BOTH parents), we are sinking low as a society. It's all about us. It's seldom about the child. It's DISGUSTING.

 

3. STOP HAVING BABIES and STOP GETTING MARRIED if you are not mature and responsible enough to commit before God to a lifelong committment that involves working to make your relationship great. I have 17 years in and there were times in those 17 years that we had to WORK at getting back on track and honoring our vows. WIth mutual respect and a DETERMINATION to stay together, we are the best of friends, lovers and soul mates. We owe thanks to GOD and to the parents who raised us to put others before ourselves!

 

4. The child on the show is scarred for life! She can thank both her parents. A family member should have stepped in and showed the "parents" (I use this term loosely since they haven't earned the title) how to be selfless and how to put a child's needs before their own wants! Shame on both families. God bless that innocent child!

I dont even see how #2 and #3 is relavent! There was no divorce or even marriage and the show isn't even about that. And #4 is just and idiotic statement. So should the mother not be accusing the father because he didnt do it? She is putting her child first by calling him on this!
 
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November 5, 2006, 8:11 am PST

Nightmare

My sister is living this nightmare with her own son.  Dept of Child Protection has dropped all interest because of father's influence in town.  You see he is an orthodontist and has high friends in high places.  Money does talk and if you have enough of it, it will silence your child. Yes he won custody and now is the primary custodian of child and mother has no say.  Father is an EVIL man, but one day this little boy, now 7 yrs, will get his   just rewards.  We did all that the officials said to do and then all of it went down the tubes.
 
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November 5, 2006, 8:16 am PST

CPS

Quote From: barbara22

I so agree with you.

 

Dr Phil ,

  As far as CPS goes...They are not the kind of people you say they are. I dealt with them personally . I was a child who needed their help once and it was a horrible experience. To me they seem to believe an adult over a child. And then that adult moved onto 2 more of my siblings. I have to tell you , I was very upset to find out!!!

   Cps tried to have me put in juvenile detention center because I ran away from home so many times. Luckily for me, I had my aunts, and they had friends on the police dept that believed in me. They finally got my siblings out of the house and convinced my father to turn himself in.

 
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November 5, 2006, 8:22 am PST

Uh

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how does everyone expect the mother to act when she believes that her daughter is being sexually molested??  I would have been holding on to her as tight as I could too.

 

She had a torn labia.  come on.  that just does not happen without someone knowing how it happened.

First of all, I'd react by NOT letting my child back into that situation. If daddy hasn't been around for the past two years, and definatly if he hasn't been paying child support (no one said either way), but if he wasn't... I would have no reason to let my kids see him, especially if I suspected abuse. A father is a privildge (as is being a mother) not a right. It is something that happens, but after the child is born, that title needs to be earned. True, a lot of times it's by trial and error, but the guy hasn't "earned" the right to be the little girl's father, so the mother should have been on guard to begin with if all of a sudden, two years out of the blue he want's to see his daughter. I mean, that IS admirable, but as I've said, if she really believed he was abusing her daughter, what kid of mother allows her child BACK into that situation?

 

 
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