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Topic : 11/03 Shocking Accusations

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Don't miss the first of a multi-part event so riveting, Dr. Phil needed three days to tell the whole story. Bonii, a desperate grandmother, sent Dr. Phil a video showing how her 3-year-old granddaughter, Kaylee, hysterically reacts when she returns from visits with her father, Jeremy. Bonii and her daughter Krista, Kaylee's mom, are accusing Jeremy of molesting Kaylee for the last year. Jeremy maintains his innocence, and says that Bonii and Krista are coaching Kaylee to say bad things about him. Both sides bring a video to prove their point. What does Dr. Phil think of the parents' actions? In a dramatic move, he calls a time-out during the middle of the show to have one-on-one conversations with each parent. Are Jeremy and Krista being honest with Dr. Phil? They agree to be put to the test. Dr. Phil vows to find out the truth, and make sure Kaylee has a safe home. Join the discussion and tell us what you think.

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November 13, 2006, 5:20 pm PST

what to do???

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I am hurt and afraid as I read your comments.

What do we do, how rampant is this? And who will fight for the children. There is a huge loop/escape hole present in today's system, and it is allowing our innocence to be destroyed, dirtied by sick, corrupt individuals. My daughter is facing this right now as we speak, how can she handle this, how can I read all of these  comments and not be disturbed by the inability of our laws to protect our children. They say, this system was set up to protect the man, in case someone fraudulantly lies on him. Well what about the innocent children, they can't speak for themselves, and when they get of age when they can, if it's under 5, then there is no credibility attached to there testimony. And as it is in my case, there's a double indemnity not only was she assaulted, but her assailent is suing me for custody. Never mind that he has violated her, there is no proof other than her mental condition. I took her to the hospital thank God there was no penetration. And God only knows what happened to her before she was old enough to talk. Her dad was so deceptive he camoflauged his deviant behavior in her childs play. He sang a song and then started rubbing her clothed (buttocks) against his Penis (or pee pee) as she calls it. The therapist appointed by the court, (the judge already stated -that he was looking out for the rights of the father) made a statement that, he, the father was just playing a game. But playing a game, rubbing a child back and forth between your legs up against your penis, is not the kind of game an innocent child should be involved in. And when I said he shoudn't have been playing with her around his genitals the therapist said, Well Santa sits people on his lap. If, that's the way the court system is thinking, no regards for the rights of the child, and certainly not what;s best for her, but rather the father's needs and request are being met, what are my daughter and I going to do. When my daughter is around him, she gets migraines, asthma attacks. She was at the therapist last Monday, when the show first aired. The therapist had her go over the incident with her dad in the room. He didn't ask her if she wanted to do this in front of him, he just told her to. She was in a total state,  she cried profusely, she bit her fingers all of them until you could see blood on each. She was so traumaized. And then, even though her dad violated her, she loves him, the therapist asked her to implicate her dad right then and there. That was pure torture. And while she was telling the story, her dad was allowed by this court appointed therapist to interject and tell "what really happened, and baby, it didn't happen like that, and oh you really don't remember". What the hell! What kind of blind justice is this? Somebody please help me.... I will lose my baby to a pedophile!

The price of tolerance. Today we pay. Call police and record the call's and then SEND tapes THEM OUT whoever wants them. Politicians (and then tape record that call to them, that they got the message from you).We have to prove that the system is the problem NOT  the molester before we can ever get to the molester. And on and on we go.  .No natzees ( bad cops or judges, fat worthless CPS workers)  allowed in America. My police officers name was Detective Meyers, Castle Rock, Colorado. Still waiting on a call from him. dont think I will get it.  Anyway , spread the news. Natzees never get shut down with good exposure, only honest bad exposure. It is a P.R. game people. Start learning how to play it.Dont be a victim, be an activist. 

 
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November 13, 2006, 6:49 pm PST

They dont even want to try, do they?

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Dr. Phil,

What is going on is a travesty, to America. I wish I could be just another person commenting on this situation. But I am in dire need of help! My daughter who was sexually molested by her father at 4, is suffering, along with all these other children. I had no idea how wide spread this problem is, and how many men are abusing these little girls (boys) and because of their ages the police, nor the CPS, are investigating. In our case, the prosecutor told me they can not prosecute a man for somethng a 3 or 4 year old said, especially if it's only one incident. So Dr. Phil, please tell me what to do? What do I tell my daughter? What do I do for her when she tosses and turns all night and in her sleep (while talking out loud, in her subconscious, she's telling her daddy that she doesn't want him to put her by his pee-pee.) She's in mental torment everytime he calls, and he calls constantly. We are going through a custody battle, he has sexually molested this child, and the courts, the therapist, all are aligning with the father, saying he has rights. He has rights to do what, sexually abuse a child, and then laugh at us for seeking justice, and laughing at the law too, because he's evidently above it. Please tell me Dr. Phil what should I do, my daughter and my life hinge on this. Our trial is set for Dec. 5th, he has already said that if he get's custody, he want let me see her. What have I done other than try to be an excellent mother to my baby. I can't be a perfect mother, because there is no such thing. But I will always attest to having her "BEST INTEREST AT HEART ALWAYS!

I thought that it was a racial issue, with my situation, maybe to some degree it is. But in watching your show, and looking at the message board, it really does look like an epedemic. If it weren't for this medium, your forum, most of us mothers would not know that it is as wide spread as it is. The worst part is a father can violate a child under 5, and the system will attach no credibility to her testimony, and in fact in my case the father was allowed to manipulate her testimony and get away with this. How many times must my child be victimized. How can this be? Please, please help me - us! Where do we go, and who can we talk to? Please don't let my daughter have to suffer more than she already has. Please don't let her be given to a child molesting father.... Please help her! Please help me!

What do we as a public have to loose by putting our cases in front of the public instead . On the Dr.Phil Message board.Just for starters. We are not prisoners to this system like   some were in Germany 60 years ago. Or are we?. Loyalty will get  us nowhere on this one. Our government is (scr----g us) failing us and  they can either get it right or get the ---- out of the way. Lead follow or get out of the way. People die due to lack of knowledge.Get your stories out there.Flush the roaches into the light. Get  investigation results. Questions asked, proff available,.

 

We got to do it. Put it on this site and others will follow. Activate yourself. The blacks never got nowhere until they did what they WEREN'T supposed to do. Neither has anybody else. Open this up. Give names, locations. Dont be such a recluse. Open up and have fun, (even if it is just a litttle entrapping revenge)(entrapment in these cases is a good defense if you feel you had to do something you otherwise would not have done) if anything in doing so.

 

American politics (government) is built on P.R. (achilles heel). Expose all investigators and details of investigation. Or your evidence.Lets make this country SICK  of this problem that they will forget all about all that other cr-- they are into.Talk about knocking out two birds with one stone. All that oil just aint woth that much anyway is what I say. YUP! Period.

 
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November 13, 2006, 6:51 pm PST

shrimpy

Children are on the bottom of the food chain. Such a shame in such a rich country. So much for ONLY BEING rich with B.S.
 
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November 13, 2006, 7:29 pm PST

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Children are on the bottom of the food chain. Such a shame in such a rich country. So much for ONLY BEING rich with B.S.
I'm sorry...but what exactly is your solution?
 
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November 13, 2006, 7:40 pm PST

What are you thinking

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I FEEL LIKE IM BACK IN MY OWN HELL AS A CHILD I KNOW WHAT THIS LITTLE GIRL IS FACING IN HER  FUTURE. BOTH PARENTS  SHOULD  BE JAILED ,, THE MOTHER  WAS TOLD  BY HER DAUGHTER  THEY WERE TOUCHING  HER  ... ANDTHIS LITTLE GIRL WAS SCARED TO DEATH TO GO WITH THE FATHER... GRANTED I THOUGHT  HE WAS TELLIN THE TRUTH . AND THE GRANDMOTHER  N DAUGHTER WERE  MAKIN FALSE HOODS AGAINST  HIM , AS I WATCHED THE SERIES WATCHIN HIS BODY LANGUAGE AND HE HAD TO THINK OF  IF HE PUT HIS TONGUE IN HIS DAUGHTERS  MOUTH  THERES A CLUE DUH  IM NO EXPERT  BUT  I AM A SURVIVER OF MOLESTATION. DR PHIL GET THIS LITTLE GIRL OUT OF THIS SITUATION SHE IS  OUR FUTURE ,, WE AS ADULTS HAVE TO DO  EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO MAKE HER CHILDHOOD HAPPY  NOT FULL OF THE PAIN  BOTH PARENTS  ARE PUTTING  THIS LITTLE GIRL  THROU .

 

What is your problem?  Kaylee loves her mother and she needs that love in her life, as well as the grandmother's love since the father is such a dirt bag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Maybe Krista did not handle it as Dr Phil would have wanted her to but if I had my hands on this infidel I don't know what I would have done.  This man needs to be incarcerated and let the inmate population deal with him.  There is the only place that I know of that deals with this crime against children CORRECTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Krista  and her mother are only trying to protect Kaylee!!!!!!  Krista and Bonnie TAKE CARE OF KAYLEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  No matter what anyone says!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Krista, Haylee was a precious gift from God and he will help you.

You will be in my prayers.

 
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November 13, 2006, 11:46 pm PST

11/03 Shocking Accusations

I could tell from the first 5 mins. that he was lying. It was just the way he was acting. I can't stand people who would treat a child so bad. Especially when it's there own.
 
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November 14, 2006, 7:53 am PST

Poor Kaylee!

I felt very compelled to write to you about that discusting low life Jeremy! I hope to GOD that he has not been alone with Kaylee since the show, please keep her protected. I knew right away he was lying and then to see the terror in that poor girls eyes every time they picked her up and dropped her off  was devastating to me. I have had Kaylee on my mind ever since the show. How can a person be so BOLD and take her away from her own birthday party to molest her, it makes me think that when she was with him he would just attack her as soon as he got her to his house until the moment he dropped her off. I do not think there was any coaching involved on the mother's side. It was so obvious what was going on that Kaylee herself knew it was wrong,most children do not say anything to anyone about it. It really saddened and angered me to watch Kaylee cry like that every time he was near her! Please Please Please keep him away from her !!!!!!
 

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November 14, 2006, 9:44 am PST

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Wow!!!!!  its unbeliavable, how can something like this  happen, I think that even if is a minor doubt about any parent, CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICE should  requiered a  supervised visitation to the parents involved.

We should do something about it,  this can not be happening in a Country that fights for HUMAN RIGHTS all over the world.

The good actions always BEGING  at HOME!!!!!!!!.

 
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November 14, 2006, 4:27 pm PST

Kaylee

OMG Dr. Phil please protect that little sweetheart Kaylee.  It broke my heart watching Kaylee crying over and over again as she was forced to go with Jeremy and his wife.  Even when it was just Jeremy's wife she cried.  Absolutely the pig did it and his new wife better run not walk to the nearest exit.  After she has her baby she needs to make sure Jeremy never ever is allowed near it. 

 

Thank god for the grandmother!!!!

 

I will be praying that Jeremy goes to jail for this and that he suffers everyday of his life. 

 

Kaylee, may you have joy and happiness forever, little sweetie pie...

 

God Bless YOU!!!!

 
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November 15, 2006, 1:12 am PST

Innocent until proven guilty

Everything in the show pointed to Jerem being guilty. However I would give Jeremy the benefit of the doubt.

he biggest downside to Jeremy was his failing the lie detector test. However, there is reason that lie detector is not an admissible evidence in a court of law. That is because it only guages the pysiological reactions. It is not an actual lie detector.

Now I had ben watching Jeremy closely. I know his nervous kind. This guy seems to be he kind who tries to go out of his way in pursuit of hinesty. and I think bsically he crushed his own foot in doing that.

What I mean is that if he were the kind of guy who actually googled on how to be truthful or beat lie detector, he did a terrible job and the results were just the opposite. Probably 99% of people watching the show would beleive that he is guilty just by his demeanor. At the same time, judging by his long way to answer a question shows me that he is not a very cunning or smart guy. I have have that reactions too. Sometimes people ask me ridiculous questions that just throw me off so much that it can make me impatient and grumpy and my answer them is reciprocally sarcastic masked as serious reflection.

 

Secondly, the gramma and he stupid ma, certainly don't help their case with their vindictive attitude and carelessness. Where was gramma when the 15 yrold fat daughter got prgnant with kaley? No maternal instintcs then huh?

 

I would like jeremy to take a lie detector again and not act so goofy and nervous. In the last episode he seemed to have gained his composure nd confidence as he became angry. He should definitly take the lie detetctor again. On top of that there has been no prior allegation against him of being a sex offender, no instance of child pornography either and no witness including the seemingly devastated prgnant girlfreind of jeremy who still maintained tat she never saw him doing anything inappropriate.

 

It is for fools like Jeremy that the Justice system in this country says innocet until proven guilty.

 
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