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Don't miss the first of a multi-part event so riveting, Dr. Phil needed three days to tell the whole story. Bonii, a desperate grandmother, sent Dr. Phil a video showing how her 3-year-old granddaughter, Kaylee, hysterically reacts when she returns from visits with her father, Jeremy. Bonii and her daughter Krista, Kaylee's mom, are accusing Jeremy of molesting Kaylee for the last year. Jeremy maintains his innocence, and says that Bonii and Krista are coaching Kaylee to say bad things about him. Both sides bring a video to prove their point. What does Dr. Phil think of the parents' actions? In a dramatic move, he calls a time-out during the middle of the show to have one-on-one conversations with each parent. Are Jeremy and Krista being honest with Dr. Phil? They agree to be put to the test. Dr. Phil vows to find out the truth, and make sure Kaylee has a safe home. Join the discussion and tell us what you think.

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November 9, 2006, 7:52 pm PST

shocking???

Shocking accusations??

 

Only because we never hear about them,not bcause they never  happen, And we never hear about them because it is a huge coverup by all those involved . Catch 22. We dont hear about them because America isnt supposed to have these problems  . It wouldnt be such a great country if it got out.

 

People NOT directly involved in this type of crime (want to stay that way)  are more afraid of it then those directly  involved , Repuation. reputation is what it is all about.This only happens in those other (poor) countries . When it happens over here  it is a manufactured lie,   or a long lost repressed memory at best. The P.R. surrounding this crime  in favor of SILENCE is impecable.That nobody wants to know about it, and again that is why it is so shocking, when we do .Thanks to  dr.Phil, but one show wont do the trick. 

 
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November 10, 2006, 4:49 am PST

He had pedophile written on his face

 Jeremy had pedophile written all over his face.  He reminded me of a commercial with Terry Bradshaw where he has a reverse "check engine light" burned into his forehead. 

 

What an arrogant prick and I do think that it is totally appropriate that if you fear that your child is being abused by whoever that has possession of that child to videotape and ask non leading questions to document to trauma.  I never remember her mother saying on the vidoe tape, who did this, daddy? or did daddy do this to you?   No she was just consoling not pushing the issue further but warning her ex that it had to stop and he knew exactly what he was doing.

 

What a pig and so hey he did learn to beat the lie detector test.  Bully for him guess he got some extra time practicing before he re took the test.

 

That baby is damaged goods  and I would be interested in what child and family services would say about this whole ordeal.

 

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November 10, 2006, 11:28 am PST

11/03 Shocking Accusations

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My 14 year old daughter was forced to sit on her stepfather's stomach, in the nude and rub his shoulders(the only father she has known since she was 1 year old) nude and he was naked laying on his back with only a towel covering himself!  He was rubbing her back and sickingly becoming excited. As well as making her clean her room in the nude! He told her since the room was so dirty she wanted to live like an animal, so she could clean her room in the nude!  No doubt he was watching her! The instant she told me I made him leave that very night. I promptly called CPS and reported the incident myself. The police came out to the house, questioned her, and insinuated that she may be doing this for retaliation. Which I knew was not true. After that we heard nothing for months. This was in November of 2005. We have passed a 1 year anniversary mark!! I called and left messages and no response.  Finally, in June I went down to the records dept and found out that this had slipped through the cracks and never got assigned to a detective. Round and round I have gone with these people since then, but now the Fresno County DA in its infinent wisdon have informed me that they will not be pressing charges in this matter. The detective stated that he beleived my daughter and the DA does as well. (Even though he has not interviewed any one personally) My husband admitted to the detective that he had her clean her room in the nude and that everything else happened as she stated but that she had clothes on. The DA told me that since it is her word against his that with no proof they cannot convict and convince a jury. That maybe if there was some evidence, such as a towel with semen on it...well maybe if someone had investigated at the time, there would be! They could have checked his computer! Something! My question is I did everything right, I got him out of the house, I called CPS. Where is the system for me and my daughter? This case has fallen through the cracks more than once! If I hadnt reported it and was one of those sick mothers that tried to cover it up because I wanted a man so bad..and she told someone at school, I would have been in trouble! They would have taken her away from me! And I cant believe that the sick things he admitted, do not constitute a crime! The DA had the nerve to tell me that he is definately an "unsavory" character and he was sure that someday he would do something to land himself in prison. Well isnt that comforting. We will just wait for he to do something really bad to someone else and then we will get him. What message does this send? if you tell before you are raped or some other revolting act, nothing happens. Just be thankful, get help and move on. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING! Thankful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please if anyone has any suggestions or can refer me to someone I would really appreciate it! I plan on trying to send an email directly to the Fresno City Police Cheif Jerry Dyer and the Fresno County DA Elizabeth Eagen. I bet if it was their child it would be a crime!!!

First of all, Melissam, I've never been in your situation. I can surely understand your anger, resentment and frustration toward the DA, CPS, etc.

 

But, please, do not jump to any conclusions just yet. Hear me out, okay? I'm just basing my finding on what you shared. I'm not calling anyone a liar or anything like that. You made a statement of your daughter's accusation, according to police report, was in retaliation which you claimed was not true. What information do you have that would lead you to believe that your daughter's accusation was not in retaliation? I'm inclined to believe you. You definitely appear to be a concerned parent, and are taking all steps and additional ones to get to the bottom of this. If your husband did, in fact , do what you say he did to your daughter. Well, we all know where he belongs.

 

The DA saying that your husband is an unsavory character does not, in it of itself, make him guilty. But, is it possible that there was NOT enough evidents to bring this guy to trial? I'm just trying to put things in perspective. I'm sure you're thinking that I'm trying to get you upset. Please, I'm not trying to.

 

I think you did something very courageous. You kicked your husband out of the home. The threat on your daughter no longer exist because of your action. And, you're right, many wives/girlfriends would somehow deny, minimize, or trivialize the accusations. But, you did not. Because of your strong suspicions and what your daughter shared with you, you did what you were supppose to do. You followed your mother extinct and you did the right thing. Most importantly, you came in defense of your daughter. You protected her from this potential predator. Your daughter has to be in great gratitude for that. Yeah, this guy will probably move on to another victim, but, you know what? Someone, or something is gonna be watching him, very, very closely and he's gonna know it. If he continues, he will eventually get caught at it.

 

Atta, girl, Melissam!!            Peace to ya'll

 
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November 10, 2006, 1:26 pm PST

WHY

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Because the child said it was the father/  because the father is a liar and the father's behavior.

 

Why are you groping for straws to get that pervert off?  This is not a witch hunt where he's going to be hung.  He willingly went on tv and knew exactly what he was accused off and had plenty of time to prepare.  This was not an ambushed against him. 

 

The father didn't think she was molested in the mother's home and even admitted that.  He just thought he was smart and cool enough to get away with his lies.

 

There are many Dads out there who love their kids.  Most Dads are good Dads but the small group of bad ones should be prevented from hurting their children and all children.

You prove my point very well, if he HAD done something, why would he willingly go on tv and be accused of it. The mother said CPS had closed the case, so why would the Dad want it re-opened?
 
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November 10, 2006, 1:36 pm PST

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Shocking accusations??

 

Only because we never hear about them,not bcause they never  happen, And we never hear about them because it is a huge coverup by all those involved . Catch 22. We dont hear about them because America isnt supposed to have these problems  . It wouldnt be such a great country if it got out.

 

People NOT directly involved in this type of crime (want to stay that way)  are more afraid of it then those directly  involved , Repuation. reputation is what it is all about.This only happens in those other (poor) countries . When it happens over here  it is a manufactured lie,   or a long lost repressed memory at best. The P.R. surrounding this crime  in favor of SILENCE is impecable.That nobody wants to know about it, and again that is why it is so shocking, when we do .Thanks to  dr.Phil, but one show wont do the trick. 

Sexual molestations, sexual abuse, child predators/molesters---all of this has been going on for centuries and centuries. I don't have a clue what this nation's mindset was back then. Maybe some can enlighten me. In the mid 50's I was a victim of child molestation. Nobody, except the teenage boy who molested me knew about it. I didn't even know it was wrong or bad. I sometime wonder if this boy even knew that it was wrong.

 

You say America is not "suppose" to have these problems. If what got out? I don't understand your rationale. If you're referring that sexual molestation on children is a hidden secret in America, then, I think you're burying your head in the sand, really deep in the sand.  

 

Exposure to crime against children is relatively new, probably starting around the 1980's(?). The Dr. Phil Show is really opening up the door for us, the viewers, to inform us, to put spotlight on child predators, to confront the perpetrators, to reveal them for what they are, and then to have them arrested and convicted. He's saying to this great nation of ours that we (citizens, courts, CPS, media) will not tolerate, one iota, anybody touching our children in any inappropriate way.

 

To the contrary, getting all this stuff out about sexual abuse, predators, child pornography, etc., makes us even a "greater" country. But, ah, my friend, the Dr. Phil Show might not do the trick, but it sure will make a major, major difference.  There are lots, and lots of people who watch the show and they do take note!

 

 
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November 10, 2006, 2:18 pm PST

I agree 100%

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Dr. Phil, I am utterly shocked about what goes on in this world especially to "our" children. This world has become so evil and ugly it just depresses me so, to hear about children being either sexually, mentally, emotionally OR physically abused almost every day  I hear on the news. I do believe that our governemt should make the laws tougher on this kind of  sick people. I have a son who is in law-enforcement and he arrests men/womean for doing things like that to a child. It's horrible and sick!  Why won't our government make a stand against people like that? Why aren't there stiffer laws? The one assumption I can come up with is because there are judges who themselfs could be pedofiles or there are others that might be in our governement.  So if this guy is found guilty;  the court system should send him and everyone else like him to prison for life or on a deserted island where they could never have access to children again!  Once a pedofile always a pedofile, there is no cure! Then the government could waste more money by dropping them food on this island by airplane.
The laws should be much tougher where children are concerned. This show made me sick too my stomach. I know the guy is guilty, he is just too wierd............M
 
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November 10, 2006, 2:57 pm PST

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You prove my point very well, if he HAD done something, why would he willingly go on tv and be accused of it. The mother said CPS had closed the case, so why would the Dad want it re-opened?

Because that's the way pedophiles are, they love the limelight and love to outwit society. 

 

If he simply love his daughter and was a good dad than he would do what it takes for the child to feel safe.  Including just taking her for a short while to the playground or McDonald;s or whatever so she felt safe and buikd up from there, Not demand his overnights etc.  he did not agree to go on the show to satisfy the mother or to get visitation, he already had that.  he went as it is a game to him and he thought he would win and it is a control issue also.  He thought he was going to get even with the mother and grandmother on national tv.  It is almost a certainty the way peodphiles are that he's gotten a lot of advise from other pedophiles in his so called analbastard email address.

 

His wife had promise the mother the child would never be alone with the father.  why was that?  Was that court ordered? But she has been alone with him, the wife said when she left the child to get the mail, she returned and the child was hysterical----was that when they touched her pee pee--the wife was alarmed and checked the child out to see what was done and the child articulated the only way she knows not knowing the wife wasn't trying to hurt but to check out to see if child was ok.

 
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November 10, 2006, 3:39 pm PST

Dear worried Grandma......

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Because that's the way pedophiles are, they love the limelight and love to outwit society. 

 

If he simply love his daughter and was a good dad than he would do what it takes for the child to feel safe.  Including just taking her for a short while to the playground or McDonald;s or whatever so she felt safe and buikd up from there, Not demand his overnights etc.  he did not agree to go on the show to satisfy the mother or to get visitation, he already had that.  he went as it is a game to him and he thought he would win and it is a control issue also.  He thought he was going to get even with the mother and grandmother on national tv.  It is almost a certainty the way peodphiles are that he's gotten a lot of advise from other pedophiles in his so called analbastard email address.

 

His wife had promise the mother the child would never be alone with the father.  why was that?  Was that court ordered? But she has been alone with him, the wife said when she left the child to get the mail, she returned and the child was hysterical----was that when they touched her pee pee--the wife was alarmed and checked the child out to see what was done and the child articulated the only way she knows not knowing the wife wasn't trying to hurt but to check out to see if child was ok.

"Because that's the way pedophiles are,  they love the limelight and love to outwit society"

 

Respectfully asking  How many pedophiles do you know?

 

Thank You,

S

 
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November 10, 2006, 3:41 pm PST

Being weird DOESNT make you a .....

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The laws should be much tougher where children are concerned. This show made me sick too my stomach. I know the guy is guilty, he is just too wierd............M

Child molester.

 

Who has the gage on weird anyway?

 

Are you so vanilla and plain you follow the herd?

 

 

Just wondering.

 

I walk to my own beat in this world.

 

S

 
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November 10, 2006, 3:42 pm PST

Bravo!~

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Sexual molestations, sexual abuse, child predators/molesters---all of this has been going on for centuries and centuries. I don't have a clue what this nation's mindset was back then. Maybe some can enlighten me. In the mid 50's I was a victim of child molestation. Nobody, except the teenage boy who molested me knew about it. I didn't even know it was wrong or bad. I sometime wonder if this boy even knew that it was wrong.

 

You say America is not "suppose" to have these problems. If what got out? I don't understand your rationale. If you're referring that sexual molestation on children is a hidden secret in America, then, I think you're burying your head in the sand, really deep in the sand.  

 

Exposure to crime against children is relatively new, probably starting around the 1980's(?). The Dr. Phil Show is really opening up the door for us, the viewers, to inform us, to put spotlight on child predators, to confront the perpetrators, to reveal them for what they are, and then to have them arrested and convicted. He's saying to this great nation of ours that we (citizens, courts, CPS, media) will not tolerate, one iota, anybody touching our children in any inappropriate way.

 

To the contrary, getting all this stuff out about sexual abuse, predators, child pornography, etc., makes us even a "greater" country. But, ah, my friend, the Dr. Phil Show might not do the trick, but it sure will make a major, major difference.  There are lots, and lots of people who watch the show and they do take note!

 

My sentiments exactly!

 

 

 

Stay Strong.

 

S

 
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