Topic : 11/06 The Lie Detector

It worries me how the 3 yo little girl always said THEY.

I'm not sure who's doing what with this little girl.
I would like someone to ask the mother who instructed her daughter exactly what her "Pee Pee" was.
I'd also like the mother to answer if she ever asked her daughter to tell her ( the mother ) when anyone ever touched her "Pee Pee" . Also, does changing a diaper / nappy and wiping ee and poo off, constitute someone touching her daughters "Pee Pee" ? Can't understand how the mother has had 3 kids before 20 yrs old. Are they all different fathers ? Where the hell was HER mother when she first got involved at the age of 16 and got pregnant ? Why, on the video, where the little girl is crying about someone touching her " Pee Pee " didn't her mother get violent at the ex husband instead of just brushing the accusation off like " Oh really ? Ho Hum "". There are really serious issues here. Was the little daughter being coached to incriminate the ex. ?
Was the ex. set up with the video ? Did he do something sick to his own daughter ? And why the hell do they still use lie detector tests that are not admissable in a court of law ? All it does is possibly incorrectly incriminate someone. I love resolved problems. Get one here Phil !

Few minutes ago i was watching Dr. Phil.

While watching the show  I felt really disgusted about this father but i could not judgehim because i did not know what happened after he took the test. So i could not stop myself from not logging to Dr. Phil's website and look up if this heartless father passed the lie detector test and i am telling i know after i read the result i felt so digusted and sad  from this heartless person for what he did to his child and i hope i really hope he gets the toughest punishment. Dr. Phil please do the impossible to put this guy behind bars.

My heart is with the little girl and i am praying for her

Regards to all, I watch this show occassionally and this "Lie Detector" episode just really stuck me to the degree that I just opened my computer, created a profile (for_kaylee) and posted this message.

 

I really am disturbed with Kaylee being "trapped", if you will. I do share the same concern that you have - little Kaylee.

 

I have to say that I DO BELIEVE Kaylee's father IS molesting his daughter:

1. It is clear that he is trying to wear the confident mask to hide is disgraceful face;

2. The girl wouldn't just say things that I am sure she has learnt that the subject is sensitive in manner corresponding to her age of course;

3. When you, Dr. Phil, asked him one of your questions; it took him a few seconds to give an answer that you yourself responded "why did it take you that long to give an answer". If he doesn't molest his daughter, he would have been OVERconfidently say NO, with strong insistence.

4. It is important not to forget that "maternal side" are trying to score a point + they too are playing around. I.e., they are involved in some manner trying to hide the truth by (perhaps unconciously) support Kaylee's actions as you have stressed in the show many times.

5. I have to say that Kaylee's words "THEY touched my..." does trigger something? Who are "they", is someone beside her father invovled in this?

 

Allow me Dr. Phil, if you may to suggest some suggestions to you and that is perhaps to take both parents consensus on talking to Kaylee personally or with professionals. Of course, they don't have to talk to her bluntly about it that might trigger her excitement even further in a negative fashion. But in an indirect way I am sure that in the USA there are specialists who can "professionally" get the truth without having to affect the child in any way: mentally, physically...

 

I think if you had spoken with her father privately and without it being on the show, he might have cooperated but he used his confidenct mask to the last.

 

All I really care about is indeed the little girl. If she is indeed molested by her father, the latter does not know how much that can affect the former. And it is just disgusting, sad and really untolerable. I do pray for her for I just can't get the sound of her cries from my ears.

Dear Dr. Phil,

 

Sorry if I make a mistake , my English is not that  perfect. I was watching this shaw in the Netherlands.

I jus want to give you one of the tool how to find out if the father molested the girl or not.

Dr Phil,  give a girl a toy (dall) and ask her to shaw how daddy played with her. Here she will not be tought by anyone... so  it will help you from this to understand ..something really happaned or not.

Why I know this... I had  the same story in my house, I only have a boy ...not a girl((((. My son shawed me with a dall what happaned...this is of course not the proof...but it will help you somehow.

made a mistakes, the girl should have  two dalls. So even you can ask " where  you have been  with daddy ? in which room? which dress did  wear?  did it hurt?blabla" I do not have to say..of course it should  be very carefull... So it  is sort of a demo....

I really hope this  will help.

oh, I forgot to write...my son was  4 years old at that time... the same as this poor girl.

 

Dr. Phil, I had gotten a phone call regarding this show, or another show, about a grandfather, I am not sure, but at any rate, I had to respond.  I am sorry, but the father is lying here...and why in the hell has nothing been done about it yet?  I too, live in Indiana (I have read some of the posts), and I have to say, depending on the County, CPS can be both good and bad.  I too had an incident where my 5 year old daughter had stayed the night at her grandmothers home.   I picked her up on Friday afternoon, and on Saturday night, she had told me that step-grandpa was mean to her...she then proceeded to tell me that he had touched her private areas, and told me that he also tied her up with a rope.  I did what needed to be done, took her to the ER, they contacted the police dept., and also CPS...well, CPS filed for custody of my daughter and made her a CHINS, which she did not meet not one of the requirements to become a CHINS, and the judge...ha ha she gave CPS the custody of her...luckily my daughter was able to continue to live with me, I was basically fostering my own child.  After my County CPS had gotten the case, I was finally given my custody back.  It took them a week, but I got it.  The reason they gave me was..."We made a mistake, haven't you ever made a mistake?"  I was irrate.  We have gone to court one time, it is a shame, this happened in November of last year, and we just went to court about a week and a half ago, and they want a little girl at 5 years old to get on a stand and face her preditor.  I offerred to pay the $400 for the psychologist to testify on my daughters behalf and they said that is hear say and not acceptable in court.  Luckily his (preditor's) attorney had told the judge they would like to submit a plea agreement, one that we have not had any information on so far.  He had been charged with a Class C misdemetor, and the prosecutor had told me that it could be moved to a Class A because he told her he would catch her on fire if she told anyone, and that hasn't been done either.  The sad thing is, this bastard may not have to go to jail for what he has done to my child, and the only way we can try to make that happen is by submitting our daughter to the witness stand to face her attacker and force her to speak to everyone and tell her story once again in front of the man that is going to catch her on fire for telling.  I don't trust the system anymore and I never again want to see CPS.  My little girl is doing really well, and has just began kindergarden.  I had to inform the school of the incident in case she ever spoke of it and they once again sent the authorities to my home...sad there also...they didn't even take me in a separate room, I was right in the lobby talking with them with other parents around...she is adjusting well having a male bus driver and a male gym teacher (so far).  And as far as help goes here, no-one is willing to help you, they are just there to point fingers and place blame.   No-one even had any idea of where I could go for help.  I went through my insurance company to a local psychologist that had no clues on the laws...the important thing was my daughter spoke to and opened up to her.  We have been on our own.  We now live with the incident in the back of our minds, and I hurt everytime I think about the fear and the pain that she went through, not knowing how long it had happened for or anything.  The sad thing is grandma walked in on it and didn't report anything, she totally confessed to the police of the incident, and is now trying to change her story.   You would think that her confession would have been enough to keep my little girl off the stand...it's not.  As a parent, I do everything to protect my children, and none of them have been allowed to even speak to grandma.  My husband has cut off all ties with his mother and the family.  And yes, it is our decision to let him off of jail time because I am not subjecting my daughter to the witness stand to go through that fear of facing him.  My heart goes out to parents who have to deal with a situation like this, and as far as the mother in this situation goes, I would have went to jail for the 15 days, and I would have relocated my child.  15 days in jail is well worth saving my child a second of pain. 

This show sounds like my Mother as well for I to was molested for many years and that Guy Makes my stomach turn He is a danger to many other kids and He needs to be stopped being a Victim my self and having my mother tell me I am lying which I am not lying about it He is a Freakin damn Lier and He lied to Dr Phil He will strike again with another child mark my word He will do what was done to Heidi,

And to Heidi hon U need to work through ur Bitterness and ur Anger  GBY all for showing  this tonight

Prophetes Deborah

I watched this episode and couldn't believe what I was hearing and seeing. That little girl showed fear in her eyes and screamed that her daddy had did those things to her. What made me sick was the mom allowed the pervert to take off with Kaylee. The mother was in the wrong for sending her daughter over there to continue to get hurt. The mother was aware of the warning signs. When she had found her daughter in the condition that she was in after returning from her father's home, she should have made a police report and took her daughter to get examined for sexual abuse. I feel deep sorrow for Kaylee and pray that child will find the love and respect that she deserves. Considering that her father hurt her and her mother allowed her to go over there after knowing there were red flags that her daughter was sexually abused, I don't believe the mother should even be around her daughter. That child needs to be with a family that will love, and respect her.