Topic : 11/06 The Lie Detector

I am quite disappointed in the way Dr. Phil handled this whole situation.  I was convinced that he had could hit the nail on the head in the situations he presents on his show.  However, last nights show completely through me for a loop.  Tell me Dr. Phil you do not actually believe the CPS systems works the MAJORITY of the time.  If you so, please do a show after thoroughly investigating this topic.  Last night, I saw me and my mother sitting there and looking at my son's abuser.  I was divorced for one year and my ex-husband and I got  a long very well and Never argued over our child's well being.  I was the disciplinarian and he got to be the good guy picking our son up to go have fun.  Once my two year old son revealed to me what was going on - I went through so many emotions from shocked, hurt, desperate, angry to I had to do whatever it took to keep my son from getting hurt.  To make a long story short, CPS would not even listen to my case or investigate it without a REFERRAL from my pediatrician who had to examine my child 1ST!!!!  My pediatrician would not see us for this type of situation because he did deal with THESE TYPES of cases.  He also did not know anyone I could go to other than CPS.  I called my aunt who is a social worker (not where I lived) and she made a few calls to people who made calls to people.  They finally agreed to meet with me. I contacted a several lawyers who would not talk to me for the same reasons the other agencies would not talk to me - TOO many couples trying to destry each other and no abuse really going on.  I finally got one lawyer on the phone and it just so happened that the caseworker I HAD talked to was sitting in his office and he put me on hold I later found out to ask her the deal.  She said no one really believed me but she thought there was definitely something going on.  He got back on the phone and agreed to see me.  Long story short - his abuser accused me of doing something to my son to make it look like him.  My son was taken away for 14 weeks from a Tuesday to Tuesday - I was not allowed to go home and say goodbye, I was not allowed to talk to him, not allowed to see him - but as hard as that was it meant he did not see his father and he was okay!  During the whole court time before hee was taken away - I never layed eyes on the judges who made decisions on my son's behalf. They ordered me originally to take my son to his father and pick him up and each time I picked up a son who was crying the same way this little girl was and he was saying the samethings.  You apparently have NO IDEA how this feels and you have no control and no way to explain something like this to your child.  I finally found a doctor to examine him after the last time I would take him and there was evidence found physically.  Because at the time, my husband's lawyer could deman my son take the stand and he would try to say my son did not truth from falsehood because he believed in tooth fairy, Santa Claus, and the power rangers - that he was making this up - things just seemed to happen in spite of the system.  The whole time my son was gone - he got to stay with an aunt of my relation - CPS never went to their house 1 time except for the 13th week he was there and we were going to court the next week and they would have to report something to the judge.  I ask you - is that a fair report to make only seeing my son ONE time in 14 weeks.  Are you telling me they are so busy they cannot see him more that ONE time.  Long story short, our CASA (court appointed special advocate) starting believing me and even though we took lie detectors test of which he passed and I failed - so tells me how effective they are - I wish everyone would stop using these as if they are fail proof!!!! - he finally got very worried when my CASA and the guardian ad litem found a lot of holes in his story and they finally quit worring about his rights and started listening to my son and his caring for his rights.  We had not even got to an actully court per se but he willingly gave up his parental rights after only less than one year of this starting.  If someone was innocent - would you give up the rights to your only born which happens to be your only son to carry on your name.  There is so much to tell about this whole scenario I cannot begin to tell.  By the way, my son is almost 16 years old, I have made it a choice to never remarry or never have anyone in our lives that could possibly ever hurts us again like that - we do just fine!  .  I would be more than happy to share our records with you - however we have moved many states away to keep my son protected from everyone knowing and would not be willing to show my face.  My ex-husband never served 1 day in jail - however the DA still has the case due to it being a felong should my son ever feel the need to take this in that direction.

Thank you for allowing me to share my thoughts - I have never wrote to anyone about this situation before but I was angered last night and bewildered of your blind-sightedness I just had TO!!

Lisa Collins

It was very upsetting watching that show.  Having watched the parents I tend to believe the mother and grandmother inspite of Dr.Phil thinking they may have contributed to the little girls histronics. 

ANY person, parent or not, should be outraged after seeing how that little girl wanted NOTHING to do with either her father or step-mother.  I do hope the step-mother is questioned too...however, pedophiles tend to rationalize in their minds that what they are doing is okay, correct, in the best interests of the child, what the child wants etc.  Hogwash!!

The father's answering of questions in a fashion that showed out-right deception and escapism only added to my feelings that he has done something.  I suspect too (only my personal feelings) that the step-mother is well aware of what has been happening and may condone it in some fashion.

Dr. Phil should know that a mother's gut instinct counts for a lot when it comes to their child/children.  When in doubt....check it out is my motto.

The mother tried and for whatever reason did not get the backing or help she needs for her child.

I will be watching the outcome of this sad, sad story hoping that once and for all the truth will come out and the guilty parties dealt with accordingly, and the services that have failed this little girl should be ashamed of themselves.

God bless that little girl and give her the strength to endure and recover (which she may never do...for it will reside in the recesses of her mind...and will affect her future...even with councilling).

Dr. Phil has way too much trust in CPS!  I don't trust the Dad or his new wife. 

I think Mom and Grandma were doing what they should. If someone doesn't listen to the child - she will eventually not tell because 'no one will listen'.  There isn't a mom alive who would firmly put a child down who is clinging and crying and has said, "They touched my peepee". And tell the child to go have a good time.