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Topic : 03/29 Cougars and Sugar Daddies

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Created on : Friday, November 03, 2006, 01:01:10 pm
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(Original Air Date: 11/08/06) When it comes to dating, they say age is just a number. But what happens when the man is more than two decades older than his girlfriend, or the woman is 15 years older than her young lover? Forty-year-old Sanjay is a wealthy cosmetic surgeon who met 18-year-old Jacqueline on the Web site SugarDaddie.com. They’ve only been together four months but are already talking marriage. Sanjay’s friend, Mike, is convinced that Jacqueline will put him right in the poorhouse! Is there a chance that Sanjay has found true love, or is Jacqueline just in it for the money? Then, 24-year-old Ryan is engaged to Angela, a woman 15 years his senior. Ryan’s friend, Donovan, fears that Angela is alienating Ryan from his buddies. Will Ryan have to choose between his college friends and his soon-to-be wife? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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November 8, 2006, 2:09 pm PST

Relationships and alienation

In the show today, what concerned me the most was not only the age difference, but having one person care for the other.  With one marriage under my belt, I know two things that don't make a marriage work: reliance on others and alienation from friends and family.  If someone whether it be a friend or significant other ever tries to separate you from your friends and family, the most important thing you can do is tell that person if I have to choose b/w you and my friends and family, you will lose.  Friends and family are around always, significant others may not be because loving relationships take a lot more work and has a lot more expectations...Also, if you rely on someone else to take care of you, what happens when that person leaves you?  You are left in shambles, picking up the pieces of the relationship and trying to figure out how to do everything yourself: budget, taxes, etc., which isn't easy if for so many years someone else has taken care of it for you and has never shown you how to do it, then when you split up, he/she tells you it's your problem, deal w/ it.  It's hard learning how to do things later on in life if you have never been "allowed" to take that responsibility before and suddenly everything is dumped on you and you have to figure things out for yourself.  It's a reality check!
 
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November 8, 2006, 2:09 pm PST

11/08 Cougars and Sugar Daddies

I just wanted to say that I am a 37 year old woman engaged to a 25 year old man.  I can also say that finances weren't a factor in this relationship.  He was making very little money at the time we met and I was living paycheck to paycheck myself.  We have been together for 2 1/2 years and just recently got engaged.  I don't think there is anything wrong with the difference in age if the two people are happy together.
 
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November 8, 2006, 2:10 pm PST

No Excuse for Him

There was a lot of talk about the 18 year old girl being a "gold digger". Most of the negativity was aimed at her. But what about him? It's obvious what he's after! Is that any better than her wanting to be showered with gifts (which he seems most willing to give)?He is looking for someone to flaunt and have sex with. And she's gotta be hot! I can excuse her, because she's immature, but there's no excuse for him.
 
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November 8, 2006, 2:11 pm PST

works for some

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Well I am 25 years old and my hubby is 43 years old. We have been married for 8 years and 4 months. We have two boys and one daugther. We lost our daugther when she was 6 months in 2005.  It has been rocky, but there is nothing I wouldn't do to be with my husband. He works offshore most of the year. But when we are together we are happy. You can ask anyone in our families we have our ups and downs, but we can't live without each other. I understand what people mean when they say the girl hasen't lived, they are right, but I was young and I have learned alot from my husband. I love my husband with everything I have. I would give my life for him and our children. I would give anything  for my husband and children. They all are my live. You learn to live with the differances no matter what the age differance is. I can't say anything bad.  We have everything together. We have over come everything, and we love each other so we will work on everything together.

I think your story is great....But that is not how alot of the stories end up.

 
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November 8, 2006, 2:14 pm PST

11/08 Cougars and Sugar Daddies

Wow. After watching this show, I'm very upset. Now this is only going to reinforce the negative stereotypes surrounding not only age gaps, but teenagers in general.

 

I'm 18, and I honestly act nothing like that girl. She even annoyed ME. However, having said that, I believe that if both Jacqueline and Sanjay are happy with their relationship, then nobody else should judge them.

 

Though if anybody is interested in possibly giving out advice, could you?

 

I am dating an older man myself (he's 8 years older than me, 26). We've been dating for three months and he's a really fantastic guy. My family hasn't met him yet, but they're going to at Thanksgiving. I've been very upfront from the beginning about his age, because I don't feel that there is anything wrong with it.

 

Unfortunately my family disagrees. And I know they're going to give him a hard time.

 

Anyone have any tips on how I can handle their negativity, because it's bound to happen? Thank you.

 
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November 8, 2006, 2:14 pm PST

To each their own

Well two adults of legal age.It is their life

I say let them live it.If they make a mistake

 they will deal with the out come.

But the one couple where kids involved

they need to rethink and do what

Dr.Phil says and go to a professional

and talk EVERYTHING out completely.

It is not just them that are involved.

   And with sugar daddy and young girl

yes both of legal age it is their choice as well.

   But one thing of advice ,,If the gifts and money mean nothing

then she needs to take another look cause there is not love and protection

there from him

whil friend was ripping into her the one who soul

is suppose to be connected to hers with love and so forth was just laughing.

He had no protective instincts what so ever towards her.

I mean where was the love from him?

 

 
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November 8, 2006, 2:14 pm PST

11/08 Cougars and Sugar Daddies

Sonjay's friend displayed signs of obvious immaturity.  If he was a good friend who truly cared and had any sense, he would keep his opinions to himself.  What will happen is that Sonjay will do what he wants and the friend will lose Sonjay's and his relationship.  As far as I am concerned, someone who would treat a friends girlfriend that way should not have their advice taken seriously.  The one who has maturity issues is not Jacqueline---she acts her age.  I think they seemed happy and in love.  If they would like to get married go ahead, no one ever knows what will happen...
 
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November 8, 2006, 2:14 pm PST

experience

If experience means anything let me speak my mind. When I was 36 I met and married a 21 year old man. At the time age meant nothing. We've been married 26 years and I can tell you age means something now and has for the past 10 years. I'm now 63 and he's 48. We have nothing in common. We love each other but he is a teacher and has his own life and I'm retired and feel left in the cold. When we married we were in lust, not in love. There is a big difference. Now that the lust is gone there is a lot missing and my life is not what I had hoped it would be at this age. I had 2 sons when we married. My youngest proceeded to get in trouble all the time because he didn't get enough attention from me. I can see now but at the time I was blind. I wish I had Dr. Phil back then. When he was 28 years old he commited suicide because he just could not face the real world. I can tell all of you, if I could go back and do it again. I would look for someone closer to my age. My son might still be here and I would have the relationship I long for.
 
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November 8, 2006, 2:15 pm PST

11/08 Cougars and Sugar Daddies

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There was a lot of talk about the 18 year old girl being a "gold digger". Most of the negativity was aimed at her. But what about him? It's obvious what he's after! Is that any better than her wanting to be showered with gifts (which he seems most willing to give)?He is looking for someone to flaunt and have sex with. And she's gotta be hot! I can excuse her, because she's immature, but there's no excuse for him.

well yes cause if he actually cared for her

he would not have just laughed

and said nothing when his friend was

saying all those things

about her while she was crying.

 

 
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November 8, 2006, 2:15 pm PST

sugar daddies/mommies

It isn't for anyone outside the relationship to decide about compatibility issues. Haven't we all known someone who is prematurely old or remains childlike all throughout life? Each relationship has to be evaluated strictly by the two people in it and no one else knows anything about it FOR SURE. If a couple was serious about the relationship, it is my opinion they should seek some sort of premarital counseling, religious or not, to be proactive. My husband and I attended a six-week group for couples whose marriages were severely on the rocks. We were newlyweds with no problems to speak of. The group was called "Marriage Rebuilders." We learned a great deal that we still use to keep our relationship on track. It isn't about age, it's about committment to each other and the work that needs to be done to keep a relationship thriving.

 

As for legalized prostition, I would ask the person who made that comment whether he works for a living. What the hell is the difference? Most of us give of ourselves one way or another to get money or support. We're all prostitutes in some way.

 
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