Topic : 03/07 When Too Much is ... Too Much

Quote From: sanbojody

Dr. Phil, I really enjoy your show and watch it almost every day, but yesterday you shocked me!  It seems like finally the legal system is taking this problem out of the hands of all involved and attempting to settle according to the law.  Why would you offer to provide an animal activist attorney at this stage of the game?  These neighbors should not have to deal with a problem that should be handled according to the law!  Putting an animal activist attorney in the mix will only prolong everyone's agony!  You know that any time an attorney is involved, things just get held up in the system forever.  It should not take this amount of time to resolve this conflict and the people involved should not have to be involved if the legal system was doing its job.  What about the neighbors?  Did you offer them legal assistance too?  You admitted this lady had a problem, but you're only aiding her?  I hope she doesn't relocate to your neighborhood!

Quote From: pdpjd1

I do agree that she has too many cats... but you are wrong my friend. People can actually love that many pets. Its not a sham.. or being in love with an 'idea'. Its ok that you can not and do not see it this way..I mean.. if we all thought the same- then there would be no wars...but unfortunately we do not all think the same. There fore.. even with your beliefs.. you cannot possibly know what she feels in her heart. What she needs is guidence and help.But.. she is not a fraud who cares nothing about other people. I do not know her... but I do understand how she thinks and feels.. even though it might not be my choice. In ALL of the problems we have in the world this day and age......... her obsession is the least of our worries.Let her get the help and guidence that she needs.. and ease off .. and honey.. if you've got some swampland to sell... nowadys they can actually fill it in with added soil and make it usable. So see.. nothing is worthless... we just need to look outside the box and see what really is there and see the true potential rather than what we simply think.  We really need to ease up on this lady. Help her obtain a medium of what she wants and what agrees with her neighors as well as the law. You don't always have to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Quote From: ceildh1

I promise.

I have been reading the posts here, and I wonder how many of you ACTUALLY know how much work goes into running a Kennel, or shelter, to say, " Well she has ten acres, plenty of room" is just naive, okay get insulted, but hey there are reasons licensed shelters are licensed and she is NOT.

There are limits to what a Kennel or shelter are allowed to accomodate dogs or cats, would you people feel the same way if she had say two hundred DOGS on her property ? probably not, why because cats don't bark, BUT they are just as capable of biting, and worse scratching an unwitting person that gets too close ( any who have dealt with ferals know what that's all about ).

A cat bite by the way is more dangerous and prone to infection than a dog bite by the way, why ? Because of the teeth, a dog's teeth are made to tear, and therefore will bleed out , cat teeth are meant to deal the "Death Grip" which is why a cat can kill a mouse without leaving marks, the wound dosen't bleed out and so the whatever can stay under the skin.

Neutering may or may NOT eliminate spraying, its a territorial marker that Toms use to say STAY OUT, that is probably what the neighbors are smelling from her property, she has probably become desensitized to the smell.

Anti freeze, I concur it is CRUEL, and yes I agree not too many people leave that out lying around, but on HIS OWN property, well I'm sorry but if she wants that many cats thaen it is HER responsibility to keep them on her OWN property, come to think of it, isn't it kind of hypocritical to say these animals were abandoned when she lets them roam free herself .

Prevention is easy, KEEP YOUR CATS INDOORS, I can't go and tell my neighbors that they cannot have poisons on their property, I am responsible for my pets, hence my cats stay inside, and my dogs are kept in the yard and on a leash at all times, would save alot of heartache and nastiness on both sides don't you think ?

By the way, LOVED that cat house, sorry I forgot the poster's name, what a WONDERFUL idea, and I bet your neighbors appreciate it to.  I think sometimes we forget, not everyone LIKES animals, and you know I HATED cleaning up after neighbors dogs and cats because of them running lose, oh yeah,

And before you pick up a "stray" make an EFFORT to find out if someone is actually missing them, after all a cat CAN escape home if the door is accidently left open, as can a dog don't just assume the worst.

Quote From: mk67026

Cats do carry rabies, as well as a number of other very nasty diseases.  Contact the CDC or your state's veterinary office if you have any doubts- I'm not here to argue that point of fact.

 

I live in an area with no- repeat NO- animal control. "Animal control" in my rural area means either a .22 or a shotgun. Livetrapping & hauling them to a shelter might not be "nice" but it beats being shot on sight (well within the law in my area, I might add).  If I were to call the overworked sheriff's dept about stray cats, they'd tell to quit wasting their time.   And quite frankly, they do have more important things to worry about.

 

Furthermore, why should I have to put up with the stench, noise, and other problems associated with a horde of unwanted trespassing feral cats invading MY property?   Again, a responsible pet owner will ensure their animals are on their property at all times.  If you (editorial 'you') cannot or will not control your animals, do not gripe at someone else who will. 

 

Sorry, your "logic" doesn't wash. 

Quote From: mk67026

Cats do carry rabies, as well as a number of other very nasty diseases.  Contact the CDC or your state's veterinary office if you have any doubts- I'm not here to argue that point of fact.

 

I live in an area with no- repeat NO- animal control. "Animal control" in my rural area means either a .22 or a shotgun. Livetrapping & hauling them to a shelter might not be "nice" but it beats being shot on sight (well within the law in my area, I might add).  If I were to call the overworked sheriff's dept about stray cats, they'd tell to quit wasting their time.   And quite frankly, they do have more important things to worry about.

 

Furthermore, why should I have to put up with the stench, noise, and other problems associated with a horde of unwanted trespassing feral cats invading MY property?   Again, a responsible pet owner will ensure their animals are on their property at all times.  If you (editorial 'you') cannot or will not control your animals, do not gripe at someone else who will. 

 

Sorry, your "logic" doesn't wash. 

Quote From: jodifehl

It may seem out of control to have that many cats but she does have 10 acres.  Her will and commitment to the cats does not need to be judged by anybody.  If that is what she wants in her life, then let her.  As long as she is taking care of them and providing them proper shelter, food, vaccines, medical attention and most of all spaying and nuetering them, then leave her alone.  If the neighbors cannot hang with it, then maybe they should move.  Her life is not out of balance if this is what her passion is.  I did not feel that she was doing this for notarity, she just loves cats.  I love cats myself but am not in the position to dedicate my life and financial resources to that extent.  All animals are Gods creatures that many have to rely on humans to take care of them.  Our responsibility as humans is to take care of them, nurture them and be responsible pet owners.  I see her as a person who has taken on the responsibility of all the other people who have so selfishley abandoned their pet or did not spay or nueter her pet.  Our society needs more education and help with the explosion of the animal population.  What makes us any better than any other creatures God created?   To love animals shows a human has a real heart.  For the people in the world who feel they are superior to animals and that they are "just animals", shame on you!  We need to have more facilities to help decrease the population of cats and that should not happen through destroying them.  It should be a law that all cats and dogs should be spayed/nuetered.  That is an unfortunate alternative, but it would help get the over population under control and cause a lot less pain and suffering to the helpless creatures.  Who has ever proven that an animal is less worthy to have the rights that humans have?  Nobody really knows what goes on in an animals mind.  It is obvious to me that they live on emotions just as we do.  As far as her cats being happy, I am sure they are.  As long as they are being cared for.  Yes, it is true they need love and attention but also realize they are an independent creature and have plenty of other cats to communicate with.  If I could, I would be there to help her out.  Have a heart people.  Leave her alone and let her live her dream.  The ground absorbs the animal waste, get over it and think about what you could do in you community to help at least one homeless cat or other pet.  They count on us.....

Kristi has my support and I pray for her and her plight to help save the helpless creatures.

Quote From: dmwilliams

One acre is about 75% as large as a football field.  Imagine 20 cats "roaming" an area 3/4ths the size of a football field.   Doesn't seem so spacious now, does it?

Quote From: afraid

and if you dont like animals this is the place for you, just look at all this beautiful country side with out so much as a bird wow if you hate animals or dont want to be bothered with them then this is the perfect place for you and guess what no animal can ever stray this far from home i promice,but you will have to make travel arrangements with nasa, as this beautiful country side is a bit far away but there are no animals here wow a perfect world just for people who dont want animals around,