Message Boards

Topic : 03/15 Starving for Perfection

Number of Replies: 249
New Messages This Week: 0
Last Reply On:
Created on : Friday, November 10, 2006, 09:21:57 am
Author : DrPhilBoard1
(Original Air Date: 11/16/06) Have you ever looked in the mirror and thought, 'If I could lose five more pounds, I'd be perfect?' Dr. Phil's first guest, Darlene, thinks that every day, even though she's 5' 3" and weighs 60 pounds. She walks 20 miles a day followed by 500 stomach crunches and 1,200 leg lifts, so she doesn't have to worry about eating. Her twin sister, Marlene, says she's tried everything to help Darlene win this 11-year battle. Could something in her past be at the root of her problem? Is it too late for Darlene to recover? Then, 22-year-old Jennifer weighs 63 pounds and has the bones of an 80-year-old. Food is such an enemy to her that it takes her up to two hours to eat as much as a tablespoon. Jennifer's parents say she needs to control everything  -- throwing out their food and telling them what they can and can't buy -- and her anorexia is affecting their marriage. They plead for help to save their daughter's life. What does Jennifer need to do to regain her health? Will these women choose to take a step in the right direction? Join the discussion.

Find out what happened on the show.

More March 2007 Show Boards.

As of January, 2009, this message board will become "Read Only" and will be closed to further posting. Please join the NEW Dr. Phil Community to continue your discussions, personalize your message board experience, start a blog and meet new friends.

User Mood
Good

Message Emote
blank
November 19, 2006, 8:31 pm PST

11/16 Starving for Perfection

Quote From: pastor4peace

My 17 year old daughter suffers from anorexia and bulimia.  She is currently in her 5th treatment facility.  I tuned into the show tonight in hope of finding hope, but I was sadly dissapointed.  Dr. Phil said nothing about the huge role of the media and our US culture in this terrible disease.  And if that wasn't enough to be discouraged about, the commercial breaks during the show included ads for weight loss centers, modeling workshops, and permanent hair removal image makers. 

     Is Dr. Phil serious about helping women who suffer from anorexia?  If so, why did the commercials feed eating disorder thoughts and behavior.  Anyone who has knowledge of eating disorders knows the huge influence of the media on eating disorder behavior.   I would expect consistent messages from Dr. Phil's show and the sponsors of his show.  I am angry and appalled!

     Also, when the young woman on Dr. PHil's show expressed her difficulty with the insurance company, Dr. Phil quickly dismissed this HUGE PROBLEM.  Anyone who suffers from anorexia understands the problem of insurance companies limiting and mangaging their care.  It is a valid and life threatening concern.  Dr. Phil was wrong to dismiss this problem.

I am sorry I watched the show.  

You are correct, the media and fashion industry wasn't pointed out as a real concern, as well as coaches in some certain sports such as dancing and gymnastics being among the biggest.  My daughter is 17, and we did put her into one treatment facility, whom we had to agree to keep her at for min of 60 days, irreguardless if the insurance company paid what they are suppose to!  (Which they aren't!)  But we were quoted a price to pay and once we paid that our end was clear.  The price is high - it has turned us upside down financially and we are in the process of going through the legal system for relief.  But....having some knowledge of the insurance companies and now having been through this on a personal level - I know that parents can not send their daughters to treatment - inpatient or outpatient because of the costs and how insurance companies look at eating disorders.  They look at it as a mental health issue instead of a medical issue which is what they are suppose to do and few people know that and the insurance companies know that no one is going through legal processes to enforce the federal law - the Mental Health Parity Act which states that Eating Disorders are to be paid at the same rate and same benefit as Medical not Mental health benefits with a couple exceptions.  We have United Healthcare and they are breaking federal law, most people don't know it - so they get away with it.  We are going to sue our insurance company for going against the federal HIPAA law - Mental Health Parity Act.  The federal government has already informed us that our insurance company does not have an exception to the law - but I want to become an advocate for changes in the law to get the word out about the insurance companies and change this.  People are dying of eating disorders and it is a real physical problem.  My prayers are with you.

 

 
User Mood
Good

Message Emote
quiet
November 20, 2006, 10:45 am PST

Keep Trucking

I really hope people who suffer or know someone who suffers from an ED are not discouraged by some of the comments posted on this site. 

 

Just like any disorder, there are a wide range of people with ED's.  Some are attention-lovers, some are control freaks.  There are certainly some therapists who want to keep people in therapy as long as possible.  But these people are by no means the majority.  They're just the one's who get the most attention and make for some fun arguments.

 

I believe that most people with an ED are like me-people you would never know had an ED.  I wasn't 60 lbs, on TV, demanding attention.  I suffered, got help and moved on.  And my therapist worked with me to get me back to normal life - without her. 

 

I hope the people who are angriest about these disorders aren't talking to their daughters or sisters like this.  If you have a loved one with a disorder I think it is more important to help them than to argue about why they got the ED. And no one will ask for your help if its clear you won't give it.

 

 
User Mood
Peaceful

Message Emote
blank
November 21, 2006, 4:43 am PST

mental health or medical

I'm sorry to see emphasis on whether anorexia is listed as a mental health or medical issue with insurance companies.  It should not make a difference.  The fact that our country does not have a national health care plan is a disgrace.  The fact that people vote against national health care with the excuse that "everyone should have insurance" is another disgrace.

 

Most insurance companies only pay for care for mental illnesses for the first 6 months.

That means that those people with life long chronic, expensive illnesses only get care for six months.  Schizophrenia typically begins at age twenty and lasts for an entire life with monthly medication costs of about $400.00.  Ever wonder why so many schizophrenics are homeless and unmedicated?  Now you know.

 
User Mood
Touched

Message Emote
blank
November 21, 2006, 2:31 pm PST

did anyone else notice?

I just re-watched the show - did anyone else wonder why Jennifer was not cold? - at least chilled? - I noticed her hair blowing with the air-conditioning on - yet she is wearing a low'ish neckline and bare arms!!! - I am constantly cold and wondered how she was managing to do the programme dressed as she was? I would think someone with that low body mass would not be able to sit there without a warm sweater or at least a blanket around her...even if Dr. Phil may have heated seats...just wondering. thanks
 
User Mood
Happy

Message Emote
blank
November 21, 2006, 11:21 pm PST

pastor4peace

I am a recovered eating disorder patient for 20 years now.  Why are you criticising  Dr. Phil?!  Why are you criticising the media?  Dr. Phil is right about eating disorders!  The media, it is only a percentage of the problem.  The real problem?!  The REAL problem is ignorant parenting, AND, what siblings say, AND, what coaches say.   

 

Please don't comment on this again until you educate yourself about this serious problem. 

 
User Mood
Happy

Message Emote
blank
November 21, 2006, 11:31 pm PST

pastor4peace

Quote From: dorlmil

You are correct, the media and fashion industry wasn't pointed out as a real concern, as well as coaches in some certain sports such as dancing and gymnastics being among the biggest.  My daughter is 17, and we did put her into one treatment facility, whom we had to agree to keep her at for min of 60 days, irreguardless if the insurance company paid what they are suppose to!  (Which they aren't!)  But we were quoted a price to pay and once we paid that our end was clear.  The price is high - it has turned us upside down financially and we are in the process of going through the legal system for relief.  But....having some knowledge of the insurance companies and now having been through this on a personal level - I know that parents can not send their daughters to treatment - inpatient or outpatient because of the costs and how insurance companies look at eating disorders.  They look at it as a mental health issue instead of a medical issue which is what they are suppose to do and few people know that and the insurance companies know that no one is going through legal processes to enforce the federal law - the Mental Health Parity Act which states that Eating Disorders are to be paid at the same rate and same benefit as Medical not Mental health benefits with a couple exceptions.  We have United Healthcare and they are breaking federal law, most people don't know it - so they get away with it.  We are going to sue our insurance company for going against the federal HIPAA law - Mental Health Parity Act.  The federal government has already informed us that our insurance company does not have an exception to the law - but I want to become an advocate for changes in the law to get the word out about the insurance companies and change this.  People are dying of eating disorders and it is a real physical problem.  My prayers are with you.

 

I am a 20 plus year recovered eating disorder patient.   Please don't criticise Dr. Phil about this unless you know something about this.  As a recovered patient, I know first-hand that Dr. Phil is correct about this.  No, the fashion industry is only a percentage of blame.  Yes, coaches can claim some blame.  AND, insurance companies can't be blamed either.  I got help for free in college in the 1980's when nobody knew about this disorder...AND, I got help as an outpatient participant.  NOW, outside of colleges, there are groups available at hospitals..for FREE...or, at a nominal fee!  The real problem...that Dr. Phil is too nice to talk about...the parents and siblings are to blame.  If you want to hear more about this, just ask me.  I will fill you in on the rest of the story about how an eating disorder begins in a home and why.....       
 
User Mood
Happy

Message Emote
blank
November 21, 2006, 11:52 pm PST

pastor4peace

I am a recovered eating disorder outpatient.  Do not blame Dr. Phil for exposing this disorder for what it is.  And, do not blame the media for this, they own only a percentage of the blame.  As a recovered eating disorder "patient", I want to educate people to look at their own families and what messages are given in their homes.  My issues came from the messages I received from my own parents and siblings.  I spent a few years in therapy just to undo the messsages I got from my own family.  I finally gained self-worth from a counselor's help, something I never got from my own family...thus, eating disorder.  Dr. Phil is too nice  to  tell everyone that our own families are the reasons why we have eating disorders! 
 
User Mood
Good

Message Emote
upset
November 22, 2006, 6:28 pm PST

My Son and I Watched This...

Eric and I watched this show with much sadness in the visual conceptions of this fatal disease. I could totally relate with what these two women are going through. However, I was more moved by the older lady because of all the physical exercise she puts herself through because of her own beliefs about herself.

 

We felt sad.

 
User Mood
Happy

Message Emote
blank
November 23, 2006, 8:01 am PST

for darlene

to me it seemed like jennifer, the younger of the two, was letting the disorder take its course, it was like she wanted control so much over everything around her that her body was one thing she absolutely had to have her own way..if nothing else.

with darlene, i was so surprised to see how far she pushes herself, and its all just too achieve the "perfect" weight. she is so afraid of failing that she doesnt even want to try to get healthy again. she was told she couldnt do things, or she was getting fat, and she felt like a failure growing up, and that is probably the worst feeling out there, to think you've let your parents down, yet again. but now, there is just darlene and her sister, and is she goes and tries to get help with her eating disorder, and is successful, then she will knows she really can do anything, but if she fails, she will know that she atleast tried. she will know she gave it her all, and there is nothing more that can be done.

i just want to say good luck to darlene, and as long as you try, you are not failing

 
User Mood
Worried

Message Emote
blank
November 24, 2006, 5:07 am PST

11/16 Starving for Perfection

Quote From: fluffyfat

I'm sorry to see emphasis on whether anorexia is listed as a mental health or medical issue with insurance companies.  It should not make a difference.  The fact that our country does not have a national health care plan is a disgrace.  The fact that people vote against national health care with the excuse that "everyone should have insurance" is another disgrace.

 

Most insurance companies only pay for care for mental illnesses for the first 6 months.

That means that those people with life long chronic, expensive illnesses only get care for six months.  Schizophrenia typically begins at age twenty and lasts for an entire life with monthly medication costs of about $400.00.  Ever wonder why so many schizophrenics are homeless and unmedicated?  Now you know.

Most insurance companies have a certain mental health benefit which renews each year.

 

If a disease is classified as mental health than it would come under mental health benefits but any medical problems arisinfg from the mental illness should and will be covered by medical benefits.  If one has a claim which has been denied than he or she should look at the bill and see what the diagnosis was on it.  Obviously if the physician is a psychiatrist than it will most likely be mental illness,  If the claim was submitted with a mental healthdianosis but was in fact for a mental problem than ask the health care provider to resubmit a corrected bill and if denied again, call the insurance and demand the new corrected bill is carefully revieded as it is a corrected bill not duplicate bill which computers tend to deny.  If need be send in a complaint, asked for medical review and/or call the insurance comissioner if it is an insurance plan, if you don't know send it anyways as you have nothing to lose.

 

However, even if a person has anorexia but is admitted to a hospitaly  for heart problems even though a direct link is the anorexia, that hospitalization unless in a psy hospital

should be covered under medical as the patient should be in a general hospital.

 

There are states that consider mental illness as any other illness and insurances are not allowed to have different benefits. 

 

There are also health plans which are not insurance but health plans an employer creates for his or her employees.  Often these give more benefits than insurance but not always.  A company sponsored health plan does not falls under the guidelines of the state's insurance commissioners and the commissioner can do nothing about complainst.

 

One things employees should keep in mind when selecting their insurance for the following year,  if you have any illness or medical condition which has what is called a lifetime maximum (often invitro fertilization comes under this) and you have reached or nearly reached it than if your employer offers another plan, switch to it for the benefits previously paid by the old plan have no bearrng on the new one.  You can switch back and forth between companies as each new enrollment is treated as a new plan.  There is no preexisting as long as one has had continual health coverage. 

 

Help yourself by making your health plan work for you.  It's your money and your benefits.

 
First | Prev | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | Next | Last