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Topic : 03/15 Starving for Perfection

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(Original Air Date: 11/16/06) Have you ever looked in the mirror and thought, 'If I could lose five more pounds, I'd be perfect?' Dr. Phil's first guest, Darlene, thinks that every day, even though she's 5' 3" and weighs 60 pounds. She walks 20 miles a day followed by 500 stomach crunches and 1,200 leg lifts, so she doesn't have to worry about eating. Her twin sister, Marlene, says she's tried everything to help Darlene win this 11-year battle. Could something in her past be at the root of her problem? Is it too late for Darlene to recover? Then, 22-year-old Jennifer weighs 63 pounds and has the bones of an 80-year-old. Food is such an enemy to her that it takes her up to two hours to eat as much as a tablespoon. Jennifer's parents say she needs to control everything  -- throwing out their food and telling them what they can and can't buy -- and her anorexia is affecting their marriage. They plead for help to save their daughter's life. What does Jennifer need to do to regain her health? Will these women choose to take a step in the right direction? Join the discussion.

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November 16, 2006, 11:35 am PST

11/16 Starving for Perfection

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I think that 5'7"  and 120 is too thin and wrinkly. I think that120 for 5'4" is good/Great. and I figure that for every inch above 5'4" you should be able to add 8 lbs. All women I've seen a 5'7" look the hottest around 145lbs. their skin is smooth and they have the best looking natural breasts. but the big thing is the tone. they women I've met like to lift weights and have good muscle tone. that is what makes a woman to me.
What does this have to do with anorexia. This is a disease, a mental disease that has not much to do with looking good for guys.
 
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November 16, 2006, 1:07 pm PST

Some Anorexics die before they get this bad!

I wish that Dr. Phil would do a show with girls that are anorexic that don't look like this!  Our country needs to be more aware of this horrible disease!  I have a 23 year old daughter that has been in and out of treatment for anorexia for 4 years.  When was 1st diagnosed she was 120 lbs., and looked like a normal teenager.  She hid it very well.  She didn't look like these women or Karen Carpenter that we all think an anorexic looks like. 

 

She was a dancer.  She danced 6-8 hours a day in college.  When she wasn't dancing she was working out or running.  To make a long story short, we found out about her problem when we discovered her body was eating away at her heart for the protein it needed.  She was 19 years old and we almost lost her!!! 

 

She is a very intelligent girl, and took nutrition as a passion as early as 13 years old, we thought she just knew how to eat smart, we didn't know that the amount of calories she was consuming would not sustain her body as active as she was.  She has so brainwashed herself against food that there are almost no safe foods for her. 

 

She lost her dreams!  She was at a predominant university and they ask her leave because of her health issues.  She had dreams of being a professional dancer, and her world ended because of this disease.  It was a childhood dream, her dream is gone.  Now she is a 23 year old that doesn't know how to build a new dream.  The eating disorder is her best friend!  She basically can't remember life without it.  She is brilliant, a talented writer, very talented artist, has a natural talent with children, so much is going for her, but she can't see it. 

 

She has been in one of the best treatment centers twice for 6 month stays at a time, after this last inpatient treatment she remained in the town of the treatment center to allow to stay with her treatment team on an outpatient basis.  She is working so hard at recovery, yet only making baby steps! 

 

Dr. Phil...please let America know that these girls are everywhere!!!!  We just don't recognize them soon enough!!!!

 

She really needs to meet someone that is truely recovered, because as much as she wants it, she is not sure it is possible.

 

Moms everywhere...pay attention to what your kids are doing, and how they are really feeling! 

 
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November 16, 2006, 1:07 pm PST

11/16 Starving for Perfection

dr phil is on here right now and i am watching it. i cried when her sister was talking about her. it is sad. i just cant figure out based on what she is eating how can she physically walk 5 miles a day! the human body is amazing i guess. heck i dont eat breakfast and i can hardly get ready for work! but the human brain can do some crazy things if everything isnt in order up there.

 

i hope for this woman's sake that she is able to over come this for her twin sister. i dont have a sister but feel for her.

 
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November 16, 2006, 1:09 pm PST

God bless these women

God bless all these women (and men) who suffer from these kinds of illnesses. Hopefully they have the strength and courage to overcome. And God bless their families who stand by them and have to deal w/ the illness, too.

 

Women, especially, need to stop listening to the so-called "fashion and beauty experts" (and HollyWEIRD). God gave you brains and hearts and all that you need to make good, healthy decisions. The packaging on the outside means SOOOOO little. I had gained 110 since marrying my husband (we're been married 17 years), and there's not a day that goes by that he doesn't call me "beautiful" or desire me. There are many men (and women) out there who KNOW that what's important is not on the outside. I've met lots of "beautiful ugly people!"

 

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November 16, 2006, 1:30 pm PST

Is this their full time job or what?

I don't understand - 20 miles a day?  1200 leg lifts?  I wouldn't even have TIME to do this.  Do these women have nothing else in their lives?  For how long have they had nothing else to do???  I know it's psychological, and an illness, but I just don't understand where they even find time to be anorexic if that's what it entails.  For crying out loud, I don't even have time to take a shower some days, or stay in bed with the flu if I get sick. 

 

 

 
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November 16, 2006, 1:33 pm PST

i know y'all are gonna jump on me but

I know that a lot of you are gonna jump on me but I couldn't even watch the show.  I have no sympathy for these women.  I am a recovering anorexic, I will never be "cured" this will stay with me for life.  I was diagnosed at age 11, almost died from galbladder surgery at 19 and I am now 40.  From what little I saw, these women are not getting the attention they crave from their familie and friends so they therefore went on Dr. Phil.  I know from personal experience that anorexia is a very personal problem.  You do what you can to hide it. 

 

I think they are just attention seekers at this point.  This is not the first show he has done on these women and they  just disgust me.  If they have the courage to go on national television to discuss it, then they have the courage to overcome it in the privacy of their own homes, with the support of their family and friends.

 

You ask "Do I think they are doing this for the attention?"  No, I think it started out legitimate, with this disease, and it IS a disease, a lifelong disease, but they did not get the attention they needed at home, so they came on to this national forum to feed a need.  What need?  Maybe attention?  I don't know.

 

All I do know is that they sicken me.  If you have the courage to stand in front of millions of viewers, then you have the courage to cure yourself.

 

Belive me I KNOW!

 
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November 16, 2006, 1:33 pm PST

Shocked!!!

I am shocked, to say the least, at some of these responses that I am reading. Some are saying skinny is better than fat, all heavy people should lose weight....etc....this is the problem with this society. This is what is causing all of these eating disorders!!! What are you people thinking? If you think that these ladies look healthier than the norm, YOU are the ones with the issues. These magazines that show these skinny models (which most are airbrushed), gives the impression that skin and bones are beautiful. I was really bothered by the fact that this father told these little girls they were heavy, etc.....is beyond my comprehension. Sticks and stones can break your bones but words CAN hurt you!!!!
 
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November 16, 2006, 1:41 pm PST

I understand

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Eating disorders are such at hard topic to discuss.  I've had my own share of ups and downs with them.  It's nice to be able to write about it on here because it's something that I don't talk about much and my family has no clue that it was ever a struggle.  I'd love to be one of those people that goes around and talks to young girls about eating disorders, but I just don't have the guts for my family to find out, partically because my mom is part of the problem. 

 

She always comments on my weight.  I always look like I'm gaining and I'm always going to end up fat like her.  That's what she says anyway.  I try to tell myself those things aren't true.  It's all about self talk and what you tell yourself.  I use to always tell myself that my mom was right.  Now I tell myself that I'm right.  I've researched eating disorders so much, it's like an obsession.  I suppose it's my way of dealing with it.  I would write papers about it all the time when I was in school.  It use to be a trigger for me and that's why I would do it.  Now I do it as a way to remind myself how I don't want to be.

 

I think about what I thought about myself when I was a child.  It makes me so angry.  It's aweful that there are other girls, like me, who think they're fat when they're in elementary school.  I always had a weight that I had to be and couldn't go above.  When I was a freshman in college I weighed maybe 100lbs at 5'7".  Funny thing is that everyone knew, but me and my family. 

 

Today I weigh 135 and am keeping healthy the right way.  Sure, I still hate eating.  I cringe every meal time, but I get through it.  I guess that's the important part.  I see anorexia the way you might see alcoholism.  I will always be anorexic, whether I starve myself or not.  I will always have those eating issues.  I see people who are anorexic skinny and I think it's beautiful.  I know I shouldn't.  I know they're sick and I know that you shouldn't want to look like that.  I still think it's beautiful. I'm not sure that's something that you can get rid of.  You just have to teach yourself how to think and how to correct that negative self talk.  I know that sounds easy, but I don't mean for it to be.  It's not easy, but it can be done.

 

Now whenever I think about skipping a meal, I think about my students that I teach.  I think about my fiance's 3 little girls.  Then I think about how bad an example I'd be setting.  I think about how I would just die if one of them followed my lead or even on their own.  I can't let anorexia control my life because I don't want it to control anyone elses. 

Hi, I agree with you totally. I am also a teacher and feel like I need to be a role model for the students and for my boyfriend's young daughters. However, I'm far from healthy right now. I've been struggling for 10 years now. I think i've got everyone fooled, but I know I'm wrong. Even my students comment on how thin I am and it breaks my heart. Good luck to you.
 

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November 16, 2006, 1:46 pm PST

All Sufferers are NOT 60 lbs

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I wish that Dr. Phil would do a show with girls that are anorexic that don't look like this!  Our country needs to be more aware of this horrible disease!  I have a 23 year old daughter that has been in and out of treatment for anorexia for 4 years.  When was 1st diagnosed she was 120 lbs., and looked like a normal teenager.  She hid it very well.  She didn't look like these women or Karen Carpenter that we all think an anorexic looks like. 

 

She was a dancer.  She danced 6-8 hours a day in college.  When she wasn't dancing she was working out or running.  To make a long story short, we found out about her problem when we discovered her body was eating away at her heart for the protein it needed.  She was 19 years old and we almost lost her!!! 

 

She is a very intelligent girl, and took nutrition as a passion as early as 13 years old, we thought she just knew how to eat smart, we didn't know that the amount of calories she was consuming would not sustain her body as active as she was.  She has so brainwashed herself against food that there are almost no safe foods for her. 

 

She lost her dreams!  She was at a predominant university and they ask her leave because of her health issues.  She had dreams of being a professional dancer, and her world ended because of this disease.  It was a childhood dream, her dream is gone.  Now she is a 23 year old that doesn't know how to build a new dream.  The eating disorder is her best friend!  She basically can't remember life without it.  She is brilliant, a talented writer, very talented artist, has a natural talent with children, so much is going for her, but she can't see it. 

 

She has been in one of the best treatment centers twice for 6 month stays at a time, after this last inpatient treatment she remained in the town of the treatment center to allow to stay with her treatment team on an outpatient basis.  She is working so hard at recovery, yet only making baby steps! 

 

Dr. Phil...please let America know that these girls are everywhere!!!!  We just don't recognize them soon enough!!!!

 

She really needs to meet someone that is truely recovered, because as much as she wants it, she is not sure it is possible.

 

Moms everywhere...pay attention to what your kids are doing, and how they are really feeling! 

It really makes me angry that Dr. Phil puts 60 lb anorexic girls on the show. There are so many girls and boys out there that are 150 lbs and still suffering just as much as they are. Now those people are going to watch this show and feel even worse about themselves. I've struggled with an eating disorder for years and have never been 60 lbs. If anyone out there suffering needs anyone to talk to, feel free to email me.
 
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November 16, 2006, 1:51 pm PST

Starving for Perfection

Not sure this has been mentioned yet, but just today this was reported:

 

Brazilian model dies from anorexia

21-year-old Ana Carolina Reston weighed 88 pounds

 

 
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