Topic : Differing Sex Drives

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"He wants it twice a day!" "She would be happy to go a whole month without touching me." Does this sound familiar?

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October 13, 2005, 1:16 pm PDT

back with highschool sweetheart who lacks intamacy.

About 5 months ago, I went back to my hometown in Mississippi and reconnected with my highschool sweetheart after 17 years.  We had a great week together....so much in fact, that he decided to move to CA to be with me. Okay, here's a little history. We were each other's first kiss and lovers.   When we were younger, we made out all the time. I LOVED IT!!   

  

Now, he's living with me and after 4 months, there is no intimacy. He stated that he moved 2000 miles to be with me and that should be enough. I asked why he doesn't even pursue me and he stated that was highschoolish and immature. I told him that romance and intimacy doesn't end after highschool. Since he's been here, we have had sex once and he's only passionately kissed me a handful of times.  

  

After a month of him being here, I knew something was horribly wrong and asked him to see a therapist. He went for 2 sessions and felt like he was being ganged up on. The therapist agreed that he is a good man but has a lot of issues.  

  

I personally don't feel like he is into me. He states that he is but doesn't understand why there has to be sex involved. The therapist and I were like, "There doesn't have to be sex..but, there has to be intimacy."  It's hard knowing that the first guy I ever kissed and had sex with, won't do it with me now. He is very sweet in the fact that he always holds my hand and cuddles with me. But, even when he is doing this, i feel lonely because I want more. I need more.   

  

I brought up the issue with him again 8 weeks after therapy and of course, it turned into a fight.   He stated that he is depressed and needs to find inner peace before he can move on in a relationship. He wants me to be patient because he really wants a relationship with me. But, I want one now. Is that selfish?  Is it selfish to want the person you call a boyfriend to be intimate with you?  I told him that he was more my best friend than a boyfriend.  

  

I even asked him to leave twice and he begged me to let him stay and that all our dreams and plans will be shattered if I just can't be patient.  He stated that he sees a life being married to me and having children.   Right now, I'm feeling played.  I'm 34 years old and need a loving romantic relationship.  He's 32...too young to be going through this.   The therapist was worried about his sex drive. He is a good lover; however, he just won't have sex.  The part I don't understand, is why he won't passionately kiss me.  I often wondered if he was gay..but, he gets really ticked off if you bring that up.  

  

Apparantely, this is pretty common. What do you do about it? 

 
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October 13, 2005, 11:42 pm PDT

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About 5 months ago, I went back to my hometown in Mississippi and reconnected with my highschool sweetheart after 17 years.  We had a great week together....so much in fact, that he decided to move to CA to be with me. Okay, here's a little history. We were each other's first kiss and lovers.   When we were younger, we made out all the time. I LOVED IT!!   

  

Now, he's living with me and after 4 months, there is no intimacy. He stated that he moved 2000 miles to be with me and that should be enough. I asked why he doesn't even pursue me and he stated that was highschoolish and immature. I told him that romance and intimacy doesn't end after highschool. Since he's been here, we have had sex once and he's only passionately kissed me a handful of times.  

  

After a month of him being here, I knew something was horribly wrong and asked him to see a therapist. He went for 2 sessions and felt like he was being ganged up on. The therapist agreed that he is a good man but has a lot of issues.  

  

I personally don't feel like he is into me. He states that he is but doesn't understand why there has to be sex involved. The therapist and I were like, "There doesn't have to be sex..but, there has to be intimacy."  It's hard knowing that the first guy I ever kissed and had sex with, won't do it with me now. He is very sweet in the fact that he always holds my hand and cuddles with me. But, even when he is doing this, i feel lonely because I want more. I need more.   

  

I brought up the issue with him again 8 weeks after therapy and of course, it turned into a fight.   He stated that he is depressed and needs to find inner peace before he can move on in a relationship. He wants me to be patient because he really wants a relationship with me. But, I want one now. Is that selfish?  Is it selfish to want the person you call a boyfriend to be intimate with you?  I told him that he was more my best friend than a boyfriend.  

  

I even asked him to leave twice and he begged me to let him stay and that all our dreams and plans will be shattered if I just can't be patient.  He stated that he sees a life being married to me and having children.   Right now, I'm feeling played.  I'm 34 years old and need a loving romantic relationship.  He's 32...too young to be going through this.   The therapist was worried about his sex drive. He is a good lover; however, he just won't have sex.  The part I don't understand, is why he won't passionately kiss me.  I often wondered if he was gay..but, he gets really ticked off if you bring that up.  

  

Apparantely, this is pretty common. What do you do about it? 

Hi.  I just want to say that you are not alone in this.  Six months ago I moved in with my boyfriend, who prior to this live-in situation was such an excellent partner.  Of course, we were having a long distance relationship so when we did manage to find time together there were fireworks.   

  

I do not want to make this too long, but I do want to let you know that you are not alone.  Since living with him our sex life has been limited.  I have voiced my thoughts about how much I desire sex and got some response.  However, for the past three months we have not had sex at all--nor have we kissed passionately.  He is only 29 and I am 30.  We are young and supposedly in love--it just seems strange to me that we are not being intimate.  We cuddle and hand hold throughout the night--which is wonderful and I know that most women wish they could have more of this, so I do not want to take it for granted.  Still, we have no sex life at this point.   

  

I'm glad you went to see a therapist.  That was definitely a step in the right direction.  We are not there yet.  We can barely communicate about our differences.  Just so you know, the thought that he might be gay has crossed my mind several times.  Even early in our dating life I questioned his sexuality.  Anyway, I'm at a loss, but still want to continue to engage in conversation with him about our sex life.  I am not sure what will come of it, but I hope everything works out for the best for both of us. 

 
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October 13, 2005, 11:48 pm PDT

Differing Sex Drives

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For me I think an "Emotional" affair would be harder to break off  than a "Physical" or sexual one.  

Once you get to need the emotional attachment of someone it is hard to go through the day without  

needing another fix!  When you add Chemistry well you have bigggg problems.. So do you plan on keeping your husband and your "Emotional" affair?  I am asking because I am riding the fence Divorce or Affair 

Hi everyone.  I am new to this board, never been on here before, but I thought I would check it out and see if anyone is dealing with the same stuff I am.  I too am drawn to guys outside of my relationship for emotional support.  I have never cheated and always say I wouldn't, but I don't know anymore.  I am engaged to a guy who is 31 and I am 25.  We only have sex about once a month if that and I want it several times a week.  He says that it's the Lyme (he's had lyme disease twice) and that he's just tired and not in the mood.  I thought this was always the woman's excuse.  I don't know any other girls that want sex as often as I do and don't get it.  Is that weird?  So I find myself drawn to other guys and spend time with them and know that it could easily turn into something more but I've never let it.  I have even brought this up to my fiance several times and he seems to "hear me" for about a day and then everything is the same again.  I don't want to cheat on him, I'm not that kind of girl, but I feel that he just isn't there for me physically.  Does anyone else deal with this? 
 
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October 14, 2005, 12:37 am PDT

It's so strange.

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Hi.  I just want to say that you are not alone in this.  Six months ago I moved in with my boyfriend, who prior to this live-in situation was such an excellent partner.  Of course, we were having a long distance relationship so when we did manage to find time together there were fireworks.   

  

I do not want to make this too long, but I do want to let you know that you are not alone.  Since living with him our sex life has been limited.  I have voiced my thoughts about how much I desire sex and got some response.  However, for the past three months we have not had sex at all--nor have we kissed passionately.  He is only 29 and I am 30.  We are young and supposedly in love--it just seems strange to me that we are not being intimate.  We cuddle and hand hold throughout the night--which is wonderful and I know that most women wish they could have more of this, so I do not want to take it for granted.  Still, we have no sex life at this point.   

  

I'm glad you went to see a therapist.  That was definitely a step in the right direction.  We are not there yet.  We can barely communicate about our differences.  Just so you know, the thought that he might be gay has crossed my mind several times.  Even early in our dating life I questioned his sexuality.  Anyway, I'm at a loss, but still want to continue to engage in conversation with him about our sex life.  I am not sure what will come of it, but I hope everything works out for the best for both of us. 

Does he seem depressed?  My boyfriend states that he is really depressed but states that he doensn't need a therapist or a Dr to tell him that he is or how to get better. I feel like he is holding me hostage until he figures his life out. Which sadly, I'm not sure if he will.  I love him but, I can't live like this.   I wish I could have our innocent teen age love back. He was so together 17 years ago.    

  

I really hope things work out for y'all. I pray everyday that we work out also. 

  

When I bring up our sex life, he asks me to be patient. I don't know how long I should be.  This is so hard.   

 
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October 14, 2005, 10:50 am PDT

I just don't know what to do

Sex..whats that??? I have been so unsatisfied with my sex life now I do not even know what it would be like to feel like a real women again. 

  

My relationship with my husband going on 4 months now does not seem to have any drive in him at all.  When we met sure everything was new, exciting and hot.  I lived long distance so on every friday after work I would drive 150 miles for the weekend and had a great time just being with him. For two years I made the trek over.  I was going through problems with my ex-husband and I had to go on medication due to anxiety. So I could slowly see the sex issue decline with my (boyfriend) he would make no comment to it whatsoever.  I finally went off the medication because I did not like how it made me feel or not feel sexually.  As of now we do not really have intimacy in our relationship. Sure he loves to hug and kiss, but not passionately and he does love to cuddle in bed . Saturday morning he rolls on top and does his thing and off he goes and thats the end of our passionate sex... what was that? other than a ton of bricks that just landed on me for 30 seconds. 

  

I am not the most beautiful women in the world but I am very content now with my sexualality only that it has taken me a long time to get there.  I have in the past been married and had more sex in my marriage that anyone can ever ask for.  I just cannot approach my husband because he will be very defensive.  I think it comes from his past relationships where sex was used as a weapon as for example... if you give me this I will give you sex.  So am I suppose to be punished for his past and his habbit of drinking beer every night?  I love my husband but why can't he love me completely? 

 
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October 14, 2005, 11:57 am PDT

still confused

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to him anymore? He is only 43, and if he is out of town and not getting any sex(?) then he should still be coming home and jumping your bones!! 

  

Something just doesn't jive, there has to be a reason. If he won't tell you what it is, then you need to deceide if you want to go without sex for the rest of your life. Hard choice, but it seems like he has made a choice not to have sex with you?! So if that is out of the question for you, then a divorce is the way to go, an affair will not solve the problem your having with hubby and only make it worse. Once your divorced then you can have as many sexual partners as you like(being careful of cource). 

Good luck, hope you find out what hubby is up to and why he is treating you this way...Red 

Redneon- 

Thanks for the reply!  I really don't think he is cheating, is that really naive?  this is his second marriage and he has always told me he had played that game before and he new the grass was not greener on the other side.  I really need the courage to just spit out what is bothering me instead of trying not to hurt his ego.  All the times we have talked about  sex  I have usually brought it up in a "picking" tone.  So maybe he does not know that this is a real problem.  Another problem is now he is out of town again and I feel quilty of talking about it now instead of when he was home.  I have tried to talk him into buying a computer to take with him so we could chat or keep in touch with email,  but he don't even like to get close to our home computer , which might not be a bad thing listening to everyone about spying on their spouse with "spy software".  I think I would be more pissed off if he spied on me than if he had an affair.  

 

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October 15, 2005, 5:47 pm PDT

emotional vs physical?

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For me I think an "Emotional" affair would be harder to break off  than a "Physical" or sexual one.  

Once you get to need the emotional attachment of someone it is hard to go through the day without  

needing another fix!  When you add Chemistry well you have bigggg problems.. So do you plan on keeping your husband and your "Emotional" affair?  I am asking because I am riding the fence Divorce or Affair 

gee I hope you're wrong 'cause it's very hard not to hear from him, I can't imagine if we had been intimate. I guess I would be more open to a divorce if I didn't have a teenage son. I was 12 when my parents got divorced and I can remember how hard it was. Before I met him I though, I thought  I'd stay in this sexless marriage until my son goes to college, but now that I know I can love again, I would leave my husband in a minute. Life is too short.
 
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October 16, 2005, 4:51 am PDT

Things got worse

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Actually, I was his first g/f when we were kids.  (17 years ago)  He's been with about 5 women and has a child with one of them. The child was adopted out and he states that this is part of his depression. I think it's only one reason. Lately, I've been a little distant with him. I haven't been going to bed at the same time and I'm not watching T.V. with him anymore. Tonight, he told me that he missed me.  Something tells me that he loves my companionship...just can't be inimate. We were so intimate when we were in highschool. I mean, he acts like somebody who has been abused. He does have a poor past. Both his parents went to prison when he was 17 and he still dwells on this. During this time, an older woman took him in an made him marry her. I sometimes wonder if this is the reason why he is down on sex. She was 14 years older and he was just a baby. I could rationalize his behavoir all night but, I'm aftraid I'll never really know. He stated that I'm the only woman that he truely ever loved and is sometimes mad at me that I didn't contact him early than 17 years later.  

  

I'll keep y'all informed. I just don't know.  

Well, I finally brought it up...again. The lack of intimacy. He got really irate with me and told me that he wasn't going to be used for sex and intimacy and that it shouldn't be important in any relationship. I told him that it was important for me to have my boyfriend kiss me and then, he started calling me names and told me all I care about was my needs. I stated that kissing is a very basic need in a relationship and if he couldn't provide that, he was not the guy for me.    

  

He told me that he would never be able to provide that for me because it would never be important to him.  He told me that I've changed and I reminded him that it wasn't me because when we were teenagers, we made out all the time and had sex whenever we could.  He couldn't say much after that.  He stated that if he knew that is all I thought about...itimacy, he would have never moved here to be with me. I told him that if he had told me that there would have never been any intimacy, it would have been an immediate deal breaker.  Then the BEST PART...he stated, "Maybe we should go on T.V. so you can see how people feel about you not caring about my needs."  I stated, "Yes, let's do it. Let's see how many people agree with you that there shouldn't be any intimacy in a relationship." 

  

I was very strong tonight and broke it off with him. At one point, he lost his temper and I thought he was going to get violent. The F word came out of his mouth many times. Guess what, I stayed strong, even tempered and didn't even cry. I'm finally over it. I'm done.  I told him that I had to break it off now because I refused to have the intimacy conversation a year from now. He told me that I was shattering all his dreams and plans.  I told him that our plans were much different and that he needed to move on.  I refuse to be in a nonphysical relationship. And, he refuses to be in one.  

  

Now, the hard part.. he is 2000 miles away from home. I told him that we can continue to be friends because I care about him. How do I get him to move out?  I told him that if he can't afford it, he could rent a room from me or I would help him find a place.  His answer, I can't afford a place and have cable too.  I think it's time I get rid of the cable.....and the guy!   

  

I have to say, for a couple months, I was patient..but, ladies being patient will get  you nowhere, if it's not happening now, chances are it's not going to happen. Things don't go from Worse to better in a new relationship it's usually the other way around.  

  

Wish me luck.  It's funny how he is trying to make me out to be the bad guy. I'm the normal one. I told him that he needed help if the didn't find that intimacy is important. Well, he told me that I needed the "f''cking" help for thinking that it was. I have high self esteem and I always will. I won't have any guy telling me this stuff.  Yes, the relationship is over for me. Isn't it funny that he still wants one?   

 

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October 16, 2005, 12:04 pm PDT

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Well, I finally brought it up...again. The lack of intimacy. He got really irate with me and told me that he wasn't going to be used for sex and intimacy and that it shouldn't be important in any relationship. I told him that it was important for me to have my boyfriend kiss me and then, he started calling me names and told me all I care about was my needs. I stated that kissing is a very basic need in a relationship and if he couldn't provide that, he was not the guy for me.    

  

He told me that he would never be able to provide that for me because it would never be important to him.  He told me that I've changed and I reminded him that it wasn't me because when we were teenagers, we made out all the time and had sex whenever we could.  He couldn't say much after that.  He stated that if he knew that is all I thought about...itimacy, he would have never moved here to be with me. I told him that if he had told me that there would have never been any intimacy, it would have been an immediate deal breaker.  Then the BEST PART...he stated, "Maybe we should go on T.V. so you can see how people feel about you not caring about my needs."  I stated, "Yes, let's do it. Let's see how many people agree with you that there shouldn't be any intimacy in a relationship." 

  

I was very strong tonight and broke it off with him. At one point, he lost his temper and I thought he was going to get violent. The F word came out of his mouth many times. Guess what, I stayed strong, even tempered and didn't even cry. I'm finally over it. I'm done.  I told him that I had to break it off now because I refused to have the intimacy conversation a year from now. He told me that I was shattering all his dreams and plans.  I told him that our plans were much different and that he needed to move on.  I refuse to be in a nonphysical relationship. And, he refuses to be in one.  

  

Now, the hard part.. he is 2000 miles away from home. I told him that we can continue to be friends because I care about him. How do I get him to move out?  I told him that if he can't afford it, he could rent a room from me or I would help him find a place.  His answer, I can't afford a place and have cable too.  I think it's time I get rid of the cable.....and the guy!   

  

I have to say, for a couple months, I was patient..but, ladies being patient will get  you nowhere, if it's not happening now, chances are it's not going to happen. Things don't go from Worse to better in a new relationship it's usually the other way around.  

  

Wish me luck.  It's funny how he is trying to make me out to be the bad guy. I'm the normal one. I told him that he needed help if the didn't find that intimacy is important. Well, he told me that I needed the "f''cking" help for thinking that it was. I have high self esteem and I always will. I won't have any guy telling me this stuff.  Yes, the relationship is over for me. Isn't it funny that he still wants one?   

When I read the quote about no intimacy in the relationship, I thought someone had posted a page from my diary!  I am in the almost exact situation, but the reason why is different. 

  

My husband and I used to have an AMAZING sex life.  USED TO are the operative words in this story.  I guess everything started to go downhill during the pregnancy of our second child.  Sex went from once or twice a day to twice a month.  When our second son was about a year old, things started to get better, so I thought it was just the stress of pregnancy and expecting a new mouth to feed that was downing his stress drive.  WRONG!  During the pregnancy of our third child, it all went downhill again.  This time, the excuse was his "stressful job hours".  Whatever!  Though he won't admit it verbatum, the real reason is because he is no longer attracted to my body that has been changed by pregnancy.  Our third child is now 7 months old, and I'm lucky to get sex twice a month.  And when I do get sex, It's far from ideal.  Rarely is there foreplay or any form of romance or affection.  And forget about kissing. I cannot remember the last time my husband has kissed me any differently than he kisses the boys when he's tucking them in.  Yeah, I've tried to talk to him about it; his reply is that sex is all I ever think about, I don't care how tired he is when he comes home from work, etc.  He even told me once that "he might give me some if he came home and the dishes were washed once in a while".  How romantic.  I'm not sure I can continue to live in a relationship that includes no sex.  Tell me if I'm wrong, but it's not the sex itsself that is so important; it's the feelings of love, desire and affection that come with it that are missed. 

  

  

 
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October 16, 2005, 1:26 pm PDT

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Well, I finally brought it up...again. The lack of intimacy. He got really irate with me and told me that he wasn't going to be used for sex and intimacy and that it shouldn't be important in any relationship. I told him that it was important for me to have my boyfriend kiss me and then, he started calling me names and told me all I care about was my needs. I stated that kissing is a very basic need in a relationship and if he couldn't provide that, he was not the guy for me.    

  

He told me that he would never be able to provide that for me because it would never be important to him.  He told me that I've changed and I reminded him that it wasn't me because when we were teenagers, we made out all the time and had sex whenever we could.  He couldn't say much after that.  He stated that if he knew that is all I thought about...itimacy, he would have never moved here to be with me. I told him that if he had told me that there would have never been any intimacy, it would have been an immediate deal breaker.  Then the BEST PART...he stated, "Maybe we should go on T.V. so you can see how people feel about you not caring about my needs."  I stated, "Yes, let's do it. Let's see how many people agree with you that there shouldn't be any intimacy in a relationship." 

  

I was very strong tonight and broke it off with him. At one point, he lost his temper and I thought he was going to get violent. The F word came out of his mouth many times. Guess what, I stayed strong, even tempered and didn't even cry. I'm finally over it. I'm done.  I told him that I had to break it off now because I refused to have the intimacy conversation a year from now. He told me that I was shattering all his dreams and plans.  I told him that our plans were much different and that he needed to move on.  I refuse to be in a nonphysical relationship. And, he refuses to be in one.  

  

Now, the hard part.. he is 2000 miles away from home. I told him that we can continue to be friends because I care about him. How do I get him to move out?  I told him that if he can't afford it, he could rent a room from me or I would help him find a place.  His answer, I can't afford a place and have cable too.  I think it's time I get rid of the cable.....and the guy!   

  

I have to say, for a couple months, I was patient..but, ladies being patient will get  you nowhere, if it's not happening now, chances are it's not going to happen. Things don't go from Worse to better in a new relationship it's usually the other way around.  

  

Wish me luck.  It's funny how he is trying to make me out to be the bad guy. I'm the normal one. I told him that he needed help if the didn't find that intimacy is important. Well, he told me that I needed the "f''cking" help for thinking that it was. I have high self esteem and I always will. I won't have any guy telling me this stuff.  Yes, the relationship is over for me. Isn't it funny that he still wants one?   

The hard part is over, you told him your not prepared to live a life with him and without intimancy. Fact is now you just plain and simply have to ask him to move out by, such and such a date and stick with it or he will keep hanging around you. He feels comfortable with you, but his state of mind just doesn't sound stable. Be it depression or whatever. Your right, if the intimancy isn't there, it doesn't magicaly appear out of the blue. This relationship wouldn't of improved since he was so unwilling to find out whats wrong and how to improve it with drugs or counceling. Depression is dibilitating sexually for both men and women. I was in a relationship with a man suffering from depression because he had survived a heart attack and figured he would of been better off dead. The first couple of months were ok, but not great...if I touched him, he figured he better not touch me back or I would want sex.....LOL  I ran out of patience and just didn't understand why he wasn't greatful for being alive instead of wanting to die so much,,,it was just too much for me to handle...maybe if I had a degree I could of stuck it out longer, but he didn't need me, he needed a good Dr.....Good luck and keep us posted ok ~Red
 

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