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March 15, 2006, 12:51 pm PST

Differing Sex Drives

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Ok, forgive the length of this, but i'm going to spill it all to get it out. It's also my first time posting.  It involves lots of diff events I know and they seem unrelated, but...  

well, i'd just love some advice or knowing there's someone out there listening... 

  

Been married 13 years, have 3 kids.  Thought we had the fairy tale marriage, we are best friends.   He is a very sensitive guy who would give the shirt off his back to a complete stranger.   

  

We have VERY diff sex drives, mine being in high gear at all times, his being well below average.  We are both in our  late 30s. The past 5 years , our sex life would be non-existent  (or only a couple of times a year ) if I let him alone.  I am attractive, keep myself trim , clean, exercise and eat well.  I'm a stay at home mom for now.  I"ve tried lingerie, making his fav dinner and giving him winks across the table,  surprising him by taking him away for the weekend, making it VERY obvious by comign to bed naked... Sometimes it worked, but more times than I can count,  I was pushed away or given an excuse.  He's tIred, upset stomach, back hurt, soemtimes it was even that he felt upset that the house wasn't clean or that  I was upset with the kids... and for a while there he was on medication... It was our only issue, he got defensive, but refused to get checked out,  I suppose it was a source of embarrassment.   It was a very sore spot for me, I had low self -esteem to begin with, this rejection was really starting to eat away at me.  And it hurt me bad that he was not willing to try or talk to someone to help fix it out of love for me.   Anyway, I just  (sort of) learned to accept that that's the way it is, although every once in a while, I'd do some real irrational thinking.. thinking 1. it was me not good enough,  2. there was someone else  3. maybe he's gay    I do admit that sex if a validation of sorts for me  (boosting my ego) and maybe I shouldn't  look at it like that, but I just think it should come naturally if you love a person.  For a while, I vocalized my fears and he would reassure me, but then that just became annoying to him, i suppose and so he said it was my problem for being so insecure.  He would go away for business for a few weeks at a time and tell me on the phone how much he missed me and wanted me and then when he came back, I'd still wait a month for him to want to make love.  

  

He started drinking about 2 years ago from high job stress and then started anti-depressants.  So, he had a new excuse to not have an intimate relationship with me. (medication...)     We went over a year without sex.   It was not ok with me and I told him so, sometimes nicely, sometimes not so nicely, but again, he was not willing to change it.  One day, I accidentally found pics of porn on the computer.  I was physically sick.  It  took a day to confront him and he jsut said  sorry and that it wouldn't happen again.  Talk about a knife in the back ! it really sounded like he wanted to hlep my insecurities, huh?  I felt totally betrayed and cheated on, knowing all that time he was lying to me and that using the 'medication' excuse was just a line.  And, of course, his job involves the computer, he's so much more savvy than me, so there's always, even now, suspicion, justified or not. 

  

I was (am) non-confrontational so let it go,(struggled everyday with my insecurities at this point)  until, he was upping the ante, drinking more and more , on the computer all hours of the night, totally shutting the kids and I out, and even going out with friends and drinking and driving.  He was drinking everyday at this point and one day, I had to get in his face to get him to listen to me.  It was highly unlike me, but I got to the breaking point.  He got so outraged and chased after me .  Got physical with me and in front of the kids (he didn't know they were there).  IT shocked the H** out of me that this man was capable of this. I can't get over it and it's been almost a year.  He was sorry afterwards and seemed withdrawn for about a week.  I was a fool and just said 'it's ok', seeming to brush it off.  He never got physical again, and did slow down with the drinking, but didn't stop.   

  

We moved to a new house, new job, and I thought ok, it was a fresh start..  He still drank and went out with his new  friends one day for over 8 hours.  Refused to answer his cell phone.  My mind raced and I was outraged, but at the same time, feared him due to the prior incident.  Going out with friends was no big deal to him.  I put my foot down and asked him to leave, which he didn't.  He said he had no where to go and just slept on the couch for a few weeks.  Again, showed me he didn't respect me enough to think of me as an equal. I think he realized that I was serious at this point.  

  

Anyway, I thought this wiould all be over by now.  there are times when I'm remembering and I just can't look him in the eye.  He just seems like a diff person than i expected and I can't look at him in the same light as before.  He said that that's part of the problem, is that I put him on a pedestal to begin with.  Maybe that's true, but I am scarred and changed.  And I'm obviously angry still and full of resentment.  

As far as our love live, he's only in the mood to make love if all the planets are aligned, all the kids are healthy, the dinner went well, i'm in a good and happy mood, the house is clean, he had a good day at work and got a lot accomplished.... you get the point.   So, we're talking about once every 2 motnhs or so.  We;ve had conversations about what's happened over the past year.   He has the attitude that it's the past, he said he's sorry and to get over it.  He's forgiven himself and gone to confession, end of the story in his book.  I do admit I have trouble with forgiveness, but all these major things over the past year or so have really raised red flags about the future of our relationship.  Almost every conversation with him over the past year has ended with ' why don't  I  go see a therapist/doctor and get some anti-depressants?'  Or maybe I should work full time so i don't have the time to think about it so much.  that's his suggestion.  I get really really resentful at this point and totally shut down, sure, just medicate me to make me happy, that will solve everything....   

  

Right now, I'm just feeling numb to it all, confused, hurt and trying to focus on my kids.  Don't know how to get over it...   Also,  I am looking for work, to feel like there's something out there I can accomplish for me.  I took Dr. Phil's quiz about relationships and apparently, I'm going through an emotional divorce right now.  Will look up and go to a therapist, prob by myself.   Our family knows there's problems, but doesn't know the scope.  I still too angry and wanting him to 'pay'.  I don't even know what that means.  My husband is feeling my withdrawal and keeps asking what's wrong...  Now that I'm withdrawing, he's interested in my emotion and my state of mind... I find that very interesting.  Anytime we try to talk about it, he gets frustrated, doesn't like hashing up the past, gets defensive and then I get defensive... nothing solved..  i don't have an answer and I know he's wnating something concrete..  

Any advice from anyone?  if not, that's ok, just getting it all out there is helpful... thanks 

I bet you feel good now that you have got that all off of your chest..sometimes we just need to vent...maybe you should find a close friend you can call at anytime..that usually helps...
 
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March 15, 2006, 5:04 pm PST

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cliche To finally find a place that discusses the things that I feel I have no answers to.  Hey, I'm new to this message board thing but here goes.   My partner is 21,  I am 20.   We have been together for 3 years next week.   We aren't (well  I  am not) exactly happy with our relationship at the moment, however I have NEVER been happy with our sex life.   I  feel I am a normal young female.  I am not promiscuous, I have only ever been with my partner in a sexual way.  But I am ready to go three to four times a week, and he is happy with once a fortnight.  This is going to sound really clichaé but isn't it normally the other way around????? .  He tells me he is tired, got a headache, his mind is on other things la de da... the list goes on.  He has always been like this, it's just now we are coming up to three years I am thinking to the future.  I am damn sure I love him, but I don't wanna stay with him for a long time, if as age kicks in, his libido is going to only get slower.
Apologies for the length, I am just excited I have found this site, and confused about my relationship.
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March 15, 2006, 5:11 pm PST

Differing Sex Drives

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I bet you feel good now that you have got that all off of your chest..sometimes we just need to vent...maybe you should find a close friend you can call at anytime..that usually helps...
 Hey hun, I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL!!!
I work nights while I am studying, and I know my partner looks at porn regularly.  Yet he doesn't want to make love to me. I understand your insecurities, I am in the same boat.  I too, don't know the answers however I feel comforted there is someone else in the same boat!
 
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March 17, 2006, 8:45 am PST

I know how you feel

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cliche To finally find a place that discusses the things that I feel I have no answers to.  Hey, I'm new to this message board thing but here goes.   My partner is 21,  I am 20.   We have been together for 3 years next week.   We aren't (well  I  am not) exactly happy with our relationship at the moment, however I have NEVER been happy with our sex life.   I  feel I am a normal young female.  I am not promiscuous, I have only ever been with my partner in a sexual way.  But I am ready to go three to four times a week, and he is happy with once a fortnight.  This is going to sound really clichaé but isn't it normally the other way around????? .  He tells me he is tired, got a headache, his mind is on other things la de da... the list goes on.  He has always been like this, it's just now we are coming up to three years I am thinking to the future.  I am damn sure I love him, but I don't wanna stay with him for a long time, if as age kicks in, his libido is going to only get slower.
Apologies for the length, I am just excited I have found this site, and confused about my relationship.
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Hey girl, i know exactly how you feel. I'm 22 and my husband is 23.  we were married 3 yrs in Feb. I have always had more of a sex drive than my husband. I have done everything to get him in the mood more. He just says that he's tired from working all day. i understand that, but im also tired from working all day. yet i still want to make love and he doesnt. I just dont understand that. I also thought that it was suppossed to be the other way around. I have heard that if a man has a chemical imbalance or high blood pressure, or other things like that, it can decrease his sex drive. ive tried to get my husband to go to the doc, but he says he's embarrassed. I love my husband to death, but this is totally putting a strain on our marriage.
 
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March 17, 2006, 12:43 pm PST

Differing Sex Drives

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Ok, forgive the length of this, but i'm going to spill it all to get it out. It's also my first time posting.  It involves lots of diff events I know and they seem unrelated, but...  

well, i'd just love some advice or knowing there's someone out there listening... 

  

Been married 13 years, have 3 kids.  Thought we had the fairy tale marriage, we are best friends.   He is a very sensitive guy who would give the shirt off his back to a complete stranger.   

  

We have VERY diff sex drives, mine being in high gear at all times, his being well below average.  We are both in our  late 30s. The past 5 years , our sex life would be non-existent  (or only a couple of times a year ) if I let him alone.  I am attractive, keep myself trim , clean, exercise and eat well.  I'm a stay at home mom for now.  I"ve tried lingerie, making his fav dinner and giving him winks across the table,  surprising him by taking him away for the weekend, making it VERY obvious by comign to bed naked... Sometimes it worked, but more times than I can count,  I was pushed away or given an excuse.  He's tIred, upset stomach, back hurt, soemtimes it was even that he felt upset that the house wasn't clean or that  I was upset with the kids... and for a while there he was on medication... It was our only issue, he got defensive, but refused to get checked out,  I suppose it was a source of embarrassment.   It was a very sore spot for me, I had low self -esteem to begin with, this rejection was really starting to eat away at me.  And it hurt me bad that he was not willing to try or talk to someone to help fix it out of love for me.   Anyway, I just  (sort of) learned to accept that that's the way it is, although every once in a while, I'd do some real irrational thinking.. thinking 1. it was me not good enough,  2. there was someone else  3. maybe he's gay    I do admit that sex if a validation of sorts for me  (boosting my ego) and maybe I shouldn't  look at it like that, but I just think it should come naturally if you love a person.  For a while, I vocalized my fears and he would reassure me, but then that just became annoying to him, i suppose and so he said it was my problem for being so insecure.  He would go away for business for a few weeks at a time and tell me on the phone how much he missed me and wanted me and then when he came back, I'd still wait a month for him to want to make love.  

  

He started drinking about 2 years ago from high job stress and then started anti-depressants.  So, he had a new excuse to not have an intimate relationship with me. (medication...)     We went over a year without sex.   It was not ok with me and I told him so, sometimes nicely, sometimes not so nicely, but again, he was not willing to change it.  One day, I accidentally found pics of porn on the computer.  I was physically sick.  It  took a day to confront him and he jsut said  sorry and that it wouldn't happen again.  Talk about a knife in the back ! it really sounded like he wanted to hlep my insecurities, huh?  I felt totally betrayed and cheated on, knowing all that time he was lying to me and that using the 'medication' excuse was just a line.  And, of course, his job involves the computer, he's so much more savvy than me, so there's always, even now, suspicion, justified or not. 

  

I was (am) non-confrontational so let it go,(struggled everyday with my insecurities at this point)  until, he was upping the ante, drinking more and more , on the computer all hours of the night, totally shutting the kids and I out, and even going out with friends and drinking and driving.  He was drinking everyday at this point and one day, I had to get in his face to get him to listen to me.  It was highly unlike me, but I got to the breaking point.  He got so outraged and chased after me .  Got physical with me and in front of the kids (he didn't know they were there).  IT shocked the H** out of me that this man was capable of this. I can't get over it and it's been almost a year.  He was sorry afterwards and seemed withdrawn for about a week.  I was a fool and just said 'it's ok', seeming to brush it off.  He never got physical again, and did slow down with the drinking, but didn't stop.   

  

We moved to a new house, new job, and I thought ok, it was a fresh start..  He still drank and went out with his new  friends one day for over 8 hours.  Refused to answer his cell phone.  My mind raced and I was outraged, but at the same time, feared him due to the prior incident.  Going out with friends was no big deal to him.  I put my foot down and asked him to leave, which he didn't.  He said he had no where to go and just slept on the couch for a few weeks.  Again, showed me he didn't respect me enough to think of me as an equal. I think he realized that I was serious at this point.  

  

Anyway, I thought this wiould all be over by now.  there are times when I'm remembering and I just can't look him in the eye.  He just seems like a diff person than i expected and I can't look at him in the same light as before.  He said that that's part of the problem, is that I put him on a pedestal to begin with.  Maybe that's true, but I am scarred and changed.  And I'm obviously angry still and full of resentment.  

As far as our love live, he's only in the mood to make love if all the planets are aligned, all the kids are healthy, the dinner went well, i'm in a good and happy mood, the house is clean, he had a good day at work and got a lot accomplished.... you get the point.   So, we're talking about once every 2 motnhs or so.  We;ve had conversations about what's happened over the past year.   He has the attitude that it's the past, he said he's sorry and to get over it.  He's forgiven himself and gone to confession, end of the story in his book.  I do admit I have trouble with forgiveness, but all these major things over the past year or so have really raised red flags about the future of our relationship.  Almost every conversation with him over the past year has ended with ' why don't  I  go see a therapist/doctor and get some anti-depressants?'  Or maybe I should work full time so i don't have the time to think about it so much.  that's his suggestion.  I get really really resentful at this point and totally shut down, sure, just medicate me to make me happy, that will solve everything....   

  

Right now, I'm just feeling numb to it all, confused, hurt and trying to focus on my kids.  Don't know how to get over it...   Also,  I am looking for work, to feel like there's something out there I can accomplish for me.  I took Dr. Phil's quiz about relationships and apparently, I'm going through an emotional divorce right now.  Will look up and go to a therapist, prob by myself.   Our family knows there's problems, but doesn't know the scope.  I still too angry and wanting him to 'pay'.  I don't even know what that means.  My husband is feeling my withdrawal and keeps asking what's wrong...  Now that I'm withdrawing, he's interested in my emotion and my state of mind... I find that very interesting.  Anytime we try to talk about it, he gets frustrated, doesn't like hashing up the past, gets defensive and then I get defensive... nothing solved..  i don't have an answer and I know he's wnating something concrete..  

Any advice from anyone?  if not, that's ok, just getting it all out there is helpful... thanks 

I dfo not have a solution for your problem, I have been married for almost 5 yrs. high sex drive, hubby iow. There is no more discussion about it. He smokes marji so that is his outlet, it totally relaxes him,  works every day. He has no desire, but he will if I want to, but I do not want it if he cannot but his all into it, and usually he does not. I know he can do better because I EXPERIENCED it before e got married.  Our last talk he told me I could find someone else to please me. We went at of the country a year ago for 3 nights, and not one of them did he make love to me. So I feel your grief. May you find the answer and for all that you are going through. 
 
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March 19, 2006, 6:44 am PST

sexless marriage

After conceiving our 4 year old, we have basically been sexless.  My husband feel rejected and I feel like a total loser.  Been in counceling, but still can't get myself to be intimate with the man I LOVE!  Anyone relate to this?
 
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March 20, 2006, 7:23 pm PST

Very Low Testosterone Levels

Hi, 

After nearly a decade of a marriage becoming more and more sexless, my husband finally had his hormone levels tested a few weeks ago.  Just wondering if anyone has had similar experience and whether once the hormones are back in check whether there is an increase in libido? His testosterone was extremely low and our GP has suggested a non-prescription approach at this stage and he is now taking Saw Palmetto, Super MiraForte with Chrysin and zinc.   

  

After years of him telling me that there was nothing wrong with him and that he just didn't have a high sex drive and that I should just live with his lack of interest I am not sure how I feel. My self esteem has certainly taken quite a beating through all this and  our relationship has certainly suffered.  I have no expectations towards a change in our relationship at this moment I will have to see what happens in the coming weeks.  

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March 21, 2006, 1:37 pm PST

I can relate

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my BF and I have been together for 5 yrs in the beginning we had sex all the time, 3 yrs ago we started living together but in the last yr the sex is not very often most nights he falls asleep on the couch he may eventually make it to bed but by then I am sound asleep. We have a tv in the bedroom but I have a hard time sleeping with it on. I have always liked sex and in the beginning of our relationship he was interested and the sex was great. I am 40 and he is 42 so it's not age. I am not ready to roll over and never have sex again but I am so tired of trying, I just sent him a text message today he has been away for 3 days and 2 nights, asking him if we were going to have some us time when he gets back this afternoon (he wants to go out for dinner with his brother & sister in-law tonight) then I pointed out how long he has been gone and that I needed a little, get this he didn't reply. It's like hitting my head against a brick wall, I always look after myself makeup do my hair, never go out in sweat pants but at this point, I don't see any point in trying anymore, if I pick him up at the airport this afternoon, I think I might just wear sweats, never mind with my hair or makeup. I'm really considering talking to him about maybe if he doesn't want to have sex with me that I should have a boyfriend on the side. It is getting to the point that I don't have any desire to have sex anymore and that scares me because I have always loved it.

I have written in the past about my own frustrations regarding this very real problem: differing sex drives.  I'm 47 years old, but rather than having slowed, my sex drive has actually increased, the problem is that my girlfriend, who is 48, is much like your boyfriend, that is to say, not interestedin sex.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not only after the sex and I strongly believe that the emotional aspect is just as important as the physical.  It's just that after the hugging and the closeness and kissing, things tend to progress for me, unfortunately she would rather not get beyond that point.  I'm becoming incresingly resentful and bitter, but I love her deeply so I will not consider a physical relationship with a woman I do not love.  The problem is that I'm feeling neglected at a stage of my life where my libido has been rising.  I'm at a loss as to why my girlfriend is not more sexual.  I'm considered attractive (she keeps telling me women look at us thinking "what's he doing with HER?") I'm in good physical shape, she tells me I show her enough love and affection, so, what's the problem?!?!  As I mentioned in my prior post, I am divorced and the main reason I have not asked her to marry me is the reluctance of her part to be intimate.  For now at least, I will not consider leaving her, but I have discussed my concerns with her and things may get better for a few days, but inevitably things go back to the way they were. 

  

 
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March 22, 2006, 10:53 am PST

Birth Control and Antidepressants!!!

Hi everyone.. 

I dont know if anyone brought that up on this forum yet, but I think this is an important fact that a lot of women are not aware of  that might be the cause of the lack of their sexual desire.  What?  BIRTH CONTROL PILLS/ DEPO SHOT, and ANTIDEPRESSANTS. 

http://health.dailynewscentral.com/content/view/000896/38 

I cant seem to find the article about antidepressants tho... if I find it I'll post it here! 

Anyways, this is my story.  I'd like to meet friends here so if you feel like you can relate to me at all or are looking for just the same thing message me :) I am 24 year old, I'm gay, I live in canada.  I have always had social problems, Im just really shy and introverted.  Because of this, I have never had a job and have been on welfare.  My family and I are not very close, and I dont have many friends, so when I met a girlfriend online 4 years ago I become really dependant on her, and that caused us to break up.  I have had a lot of bad luck in the relationship area, so I started using antidepressants at 16.  I was also on birth control to control acne.  On those medications, I didnt care for sex at all physically.  I was numb, I didnt have any desire whatsoever, altho my head still wanted it.  It wasnt until this year that I found out that birth control pills and antidepressants can permanantly reduce your sex drive and physical sensations, even after stopping taking them.  I have been off both for at least 8 months and I still have a really hard time becoming aroused and orgasming.  But this isnt the begining of my present problems.  My ex gf was on the same pills as my present gf. Celexa and Ortho TriCyclen, and neither of them ever want sex.  They were both very sexual as teens (so was I), before the pill and now.. they have no sex drive at all.  My present gf, which is a wonderful young woman that I have been with for a year and 9 months (have been living with for a year and a half) decided to come off both the pill (5 months ago)and antidepressants (1 year ago) but doesnt see any difference in her drive.  We are trying to find a cure, but as time passes by we are getting tired of arguing about sex.  She is everything I could ever have dreamed for, except for the sex part.  We would NEVER have had any serious scare or even considered breaking up if it wasnt for the sex...  Every month or so I have a breakdown about not getting sex and it turns into a crying freaking out night and both of us are sick of it... I dont want to give up tho. I think part of her not wanting it has to do with the fact that I am not very socially involved.  She wants me more when she cant have me (if i have to get up in the morning) or if she hears someone say they think Im hot, that kind of thing.  On my part, the sex is getting better, because a few months ago, on those pills, I was so numb down there that I couldnt orgasm even through much efforts on both our parts and she would become discouraged and never want to have sex again cause its too much trouble.  I dont really know where to begin to fix this... Celexa and the pill have OBVIOUSLY changed her, and she was drugged and raped on 2 different occasions in the past!  Im at a loss, I dont know where to go for help.  Its also very ackward, us being 2 women, to get help.  People dont take us seriously.  No, she's not straight, at least I really dont think so!  Argh.  lol a very messy story isnt it. Im at a loss here. Thanks for listening to me! 

 
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March 23, 2006, 5:29 am PST

Testosterone levels are everything

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Hi, 

After nearly a decade of a marriage becoming more and more sexless, my husband finally had his hormone levels tested a few weeks ago.  Just wondering if anyone has had similar experience and whether once the hormones are back in check whether there is an increase in libido? His testosterone was extremely low and our GP has suggested a non-prescription approach at this stage and he is now taking Saw Palmetto, Super MiraForte with Chrysin and zinc.   

  

After years of him telling me that there was nothing wrong with him and that he just didn't have a high sex drive and that I should just live with his lack of interest I am not sure how I feel. My self esteem has certainly taken quite a beating through all this and  our relationship has certainly suffered.  I have no expectations towards a change in our relationship at this moment I will have to see what happens in the coming weeks.  

Cheers 

There can be many reasons why a man loses his sex drive. Not only testosterone levels, but even certain medications. If your husband's testosterone levels are low, and he gets them back up, you may very well see a tremendous change in his sexual behavior. Don't give up on him, he may just surprise you, in a very good way. If this doesn't change after he is rechecked, and the levels are back up, discuss the medications he is on as well. Erectile Dysfunction (ED) is another problem men can have, and not want to discuss this with their loved one. You would know more than anyone if this is a cause, but realize that it is the testosterone that  mostly make us men aggressive, and taking the lead in a sexual way is just part of that aggressiveness.
 
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