Topic : Homosexuality

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Created on : Friday, July 01, 2005, 05:18:07 pm
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Have you come out of the closet to find love and support? Or are those close to you having a difficult time accepting your lifestyle?

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March 9, 2006, 6:35 pm PST

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excuse me but if you would have read my reply carefully i said i would go to a pflag meeting for him if he would go to a meeting for me but he wouldnt.  first of all please let me make myself clear.  i love my son very much and i have been there for him and will always be.  i do not have to except my sons lifestyle tho.  would you expect me to except him if he was a thief, a murder, a molester, etc. etc. ????    my son is also a christian too but you cant be a christian and pick and choose your sins.  i dont have to put my religion aside to know that my son is a basic human being with needs but i do not have to accept his sexual pereference. his sexual peference is not WHO he is. gay people have a problem with making their sexual peference their whole life and making it who they are and what their about. and thats not true.  if gay people would put as big an effort into finding out why they feel the way they do about the same sex as they do prmoting it and defending it they just might find they could change.  ive done some research myself and only 30 percent said thay thought they were born that way. that tells me something happens in a childs life to male them feel this way that thay were not born that way but became that way.  through thearpy it can be changed and lots of gay people have changed.  its always easier to stay the way you are then try to change.  my son has these feeling for a reason ive already seen what it has done to his life.  i must say i havent seen anything positive yet.  please understand christians dont hate gays they love them just like anyone else we just dont have to except their lifestyle. 
EXCUSE ME, but I don't recall where in the Bible or text of other religions that it tells us to judge other people. I thought we were all children of God. What percent of heterosexuals choose to be heterosexual? Did you choose to be heterosexual or were you born that way? Have you put any effort into fiinding out why you are heterosexual? Could you choose to be homosexual? And where do you get the idea that there is an agenda to "promote" this lifestyle? Admittedly, there is an agenda but it is to PROMOTE LIFE. I don't know what statistics you are referring to when you say that only 30% think they were born that way, but regardless of that, other statistics show that suicides among teens is dis-proportionally high for gays. The agenda is to help these kids accept themselves for who they are--not to judge or recruit them--and to show them that not everyone condemns them for what they have no control over. We need to all live our own lives and not try to control how others live theirs. Of course if you are already perfect and have no flaws to work on, I guess you would be lacking for things to do with your time. Oh, I forgot, you could at least attend a PFLAG meetingin your spare time whether or not he attends your meeting.
 
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March 9, 2006, 8:27 pm PST

please excuse me again

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I HAVE BEEN ASKED BY MY SON TO ATTEND A MEETING.  I DID AGREE IF HE WOULD GO TO A MEETING FOR ME. NO DEAL .  I AM NOT A LIBERAL  AND THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO ATTEND THESE MEETING FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND ARE.  I WOULD BE WILLING TO HEAR THEM BUT IAM A CHRISTIAN AND DONT INTEND TO BEND MY MORALS . I THINK I WOULD FEEL VERY UNCOMFORTABLE . I DO NOT INTEND ON ACCEPTING MY SONS SEXUAL PEFERENCE SO WHAT WOULD THE PURPOSE BE.?? 
Please excuse me again. Being human, I made another mistake. I forgot a couple things I'd intended to say. I forgot to commend you for being dedicated to being whole-heartedly closed-minded. And of course there is no reason to attend a PFLAG meeting since you have already decided who goes to these meetings and what they do there. It must be great to be able to determine such things with absolutely no evidence at all--just rumors. It would be a shame if you were exposed to such open-minded people (are liberals the only ones who are open-minded?). It would also be risky for your morals--you might see something from a different perspective, and that could then bring up the question that you might not be perfect after all. You stated that you do not intend to change your morals, so I don't understand your criticism of your son, that you know it is easier for him to stay the same way than to change. Something sounds familiar about that phrase. Perhaps it is also easier for you to stay the same way ( ie stick with your "morals") than to even consider modifying them. On the subject of what Christians are supposed to do, could you please advise where you found the directive to condemn others when one thinks the other is wrong. I was able to find reference to removing the board from one's own eye before removing the sliver from another's eye. And please continue to post your thoughts here, it gives the rest of us a chuckle when you use the same argument against him as you use for yourself.
 
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March 9, 2006, 8:42 pm PST

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excuse me but if you would have read my reply carefully i said i would go to a pflag meeting for him if he would go to a meeting for me but he wouldnt.  first of all please let me make myself clear.  i love my son very much and i have been there for him and will always be.  i do not have to except my sons lifestyle tho.  would you expect me to except him if he was a thief, a murder, a molester, etc. etc. ????    my son is also a christian too but you cant be a christian and pick and choose your sins.  i dont have to put my religion aside to know that my son is a basic human being with needs but i do not have to accept his sexual pereference. his sexual peference is not WHO he is. gay people have a problem with making their sexual peference their whole life and making it who they are and what their about. and thats not true.  if gay people would put as big an effort into finding out why they feel the way they do about the same sex as they do prmoting it and defending it they just might find they could change.  ive done some research myself and only 30 percent said thay thought they were born that way. that tells me something happens in a childs life to male them feel this way that thay were not born that way but became that way.  through thearpy it can be changed and lots of gay people have changed.  its always easier to stay the way you are then try to change.  my son has these feeling for a reason ive already seen what it has done to his life.  i must say i havent seen anything positive yet.  please understand christians dont hate gays they love them just like anyone else we just dont have to except their lifestyle. 

I doubt your son wants you to accept and/or fully embrace his lifestyle, he only wants you to try to understand it better and by doing that, hopefully, you would be able to embrace him fully, too.  

You think that your son's homosexuality is in the same category as being a thief or a murderer or a child molester? Thats just ignorant!! Where have you been? Being homosexual isn't a felony, its not even a misdemeanor, its no where near a crime!!  

Lets just assume that your son is one of the 30% of homosexual people who weren't born homosexual. Now tell me, exactly what is the difference? He is still a homosexual.  

I hear you saying that you feel gay people make a big effort into promoting a gay lifestyle and defending it. Personally, I haven't ever met a homosexual person who "promotes" their lifestyle and I don't know what you mean by that, but as for defending the lifestyle- every homosexual person has probably felt as though they had to defend themself at some point in their life, thats because they are so often under attack by judgemental people like you!! So your son wouldn't have to put so much effort into defending his lifestyle if there weren't so many people in society who bashed it.  

Have you asked your son why he feels he is gay?  You said in your post that gay people should spend more time finding out why they feel the way they do about the same sex.. do you even know if your son does know why he is homosexual? have you had that talk with him?  

I don't think that Christians hate homosexual people, you are intolerant of people who arent like you. Its not about hate, its contempt. Contempt for your own flesh and blood...  

 
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March 9, 2006, 9:23 pm PST

Living a lie

I met my husband of 15 years when I was 12. You see his older sister married my older brother. I swear at 12 I fell in love. We didn't get involved with each other until I was in my late twenties. We lived together for 5 years before we married. During those five years we seldom had sex. For many years I believe him that it was A physical problem. He said he would go to the doctor to find out why he had a problem. I believed everything he said. I didn’t want to make him feel bad for something that wasn’t his fault. 

Also I had convinced myself that he and I was connected in a way that sex wasn’t needed. He still did other things to me sexually that was somewhat satisfying. I love him so much that I didn’t care if it being with him meant no sexual fulfillment or children. There was many times I suspected he was gay. I never asked I guess because I didn’t want to know and I didn’t want to make him feel less the a man. I had recently discovered that my husband is visiting gay chat rooms and making dates. I have been in his emails. I even read where he has invited them to our home. He said he would just introduce them as a friend or coworker to me. That rang a bell in my head and I realized that some of the men he had previously introduced me to over the years were men he was sexing in my home under my nose. He spends a lot of time downstairs in the family room and every time I come down he jumps up from the computer He drinks a lot and I allow it because sometime when he drinks he would want sex. I think he drinks to shut out the realization that he is gay. I feel so sorry for him because he can’t find the strength to come out. And honestly I don’t know 

if I want him too. I know what he is doing to me is a selfish act. 

Yes sometime he could selfish but he was so spoiled as a child it just carried over. Just recently I lost my mother (less than 2 months ago) she was my rock and safe place He spends a lot of time downstairs in the family room and every time I come down he jumps up from the computer. I feel like I am going to have a nervous break down. The majority of my day is reading his emails. I lost my job, my mother and found this all out in the last few months. I want to leave and I know I should. But I have no money job or any real skills. I have always been lucky with jobs and manage to get a good one. But I am older now (47) and lost. I have no family or close friends here. Most of my family is struggling and can’t help. Plus I can’t tell them something like this. If I leave he will lose our home because he can’t afford it alone for much longer. And if I leave what will I have, I have no children, career or money and honestly I don’t want to be alone I so want to hate him but I can’t seem too. I now feel responsible for hiding his secret. I hate that he dragged me into his lie. But I’m stuck, afraid, alone and lost. 

 
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March 11, 2006, 9:16 pm PST

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I doubt your son wants you to accept and/or fully embrace his lifestyle, he only wants you to try to understand it better and by doing that, hopefully, you would be able to embrace him fully, too.  

You think that your son's homosexuality is in the same category as being a thief or a murderer or a child molester? Thats just ignorant!! Where have you been? Being homosexual isn't a felony, its not even a misdemeanor, its no where near a crime!!  

Lets just assume that your son is one of the 30% of homosexual people who weren't born homosexual. Now tell me, exactly what is the difference? He is still a homosexual.  

I hear you saying that you feel gay people make a big effort into promoting a gay lifestyle and defending it. Personally, I haven't ever met a homosexual person who "promotes" their lifestyle and I don't know what you mean by that, but as for defending the lifestyle- every homosexual person has probably felt as though they had to defend themself at some point in their life, thats because they are so often under attack by judgemental people like you!! So your son wouldn't have to put so much effort into defending his lifestyle if there weren't so many people in society who bashed it.  

Have you asked your son why he feels he is gay?  You said in your post that gay people should spend more time finding out why they feel the way they do about the same sex.. do you even know if your son does know why he is homosexual? have you had that talk with him?  

I don't think that Christians hate homosexual people, you are intolerant of people who arent like you. Its not about hate, its contempt. Contempt for your own flesh and blood...  

actually yes my son does want us to accept his lifestyle. i dont think that my sons lifestyle is in the same catagory as a thief  etc but what i was trying to get you to understand was not weather it was legal or not but was it moral or not.  what i mean is how much do i have to put up with.  i guess if your not a christian you cant relate to that.  i know one thing for sure god had a son who died for you and me . he only asked us to do one thing follow him.  he gives us commandments to follow they are rules just like any other parent would give his children. it does say in the bible man shall not l ay with man and woman shall not lay with woman.  iam not going to get into a religious debate tho.  it is very apparent your not a christian so its hard for you to understand a christians beliefs from the statement in your last sentence.    
 
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March 11, 2006, 9:39 pm PST

Homosexuality

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Please excuse me again. Being human, I made another mistake. I forgot a couple things I'd intended to say. I forgot to commend you for being dedicated to being whole-heartedly closed-minded. And of course there is no reason to attend a PFLAG meeting since you have already decided who goes to these meetings and what they do there. It must be great to be able to determine such things with absolutely no evidence at all--just rumors. It would be a shame if you were exposed to such open-minded people (are liberals the only ones who are open-minded?). It would also be risky for your morals--you might see something from a different perspective, and that could then bring up the question that you might not be perfect after all. You stated that you do not intend to change your morals, so I don't understand your criticism of your son, that you know it is easier for him to stay the same way than to change. Something sounds familiar about that phrase. Perhaps it is also easier for you to stay the same way ( ie stick with your "morals") than to even consider modifying them. On the subject of what Christians are supposed to do, could you please advise where you found the directive to condemn others when one thinks the other is wrong. I was able to find reference to removing the board from one's own eye before removing the sliver from another's eye. And please continue to post your thoughts here, it gives the rest of us a chuckle when you use the same argument against him as you use for yourself.
iam sorry if you think closed minded is doing anything and everything i can do that my son needs me to do to help understand him.  he is the one who is not openminded..  he is the one who told me that the people at the pflag meetings were liberal . he told me they support gays also. i dont.  iam willing to listen but iam not willing to change my beliefs because my son wants to live a certain lifestyle.  if i change my morals to suit him then iam sinning against gods word. i cant do that.  i still love my son.. alot of people on this website think if i dont except his lifestyle i dont love him. that couldnt be further from the truth.  iam not condeming him , we are directed in the bible to point out to other christians their wrong doing so they can change it. actually we can judge them for their actions but we can not judge what happens to them when they meet christ that is for him to do not us.  none of usour perfect but we need to try our hardest to live and not knowingly sin just because its more convenient and easier and trying to live right.by god.
 
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March 13, 2006, 5:28 am PST

Living in Agony...

I am an 18 year-old who has a bisexual gf.. we were never involved sexually. However, we were so deeply in love that we were already talking about spending our lives with one another, the fact that she's bisexual did infact tick me off, but I never talked about it, I did not have any evidence of wrong doing. And then suddenly about a month ago she started to get away from me, and try to talk to me as less as possible, whenever we are both online she doesnt talk to me because: She has a life, and friends to talk to, we can always talk later, and that now she's busy talking with her friends. and after that, she left me for a girl she met online (from another country) specifically on P!NK's webpage... i am deeply madly insanely in love with her.. and i dont know what to do! PLEASE HELP
 
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March 16, 2006, 7:59 am PST

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I lost my virginity Monday night by a guy I been talking to on the internet for a while. I was curious about anal sex. 

I feel a little guilty about it now, since we werent a couple. Is it commn for guys to experiment with sexual intercourse first with someone they are not dating
I kinda feel like I used myself to have sex with someone I wasnt in love with and with that being my first time it doesnt have that special feeling associated with it
 

 
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March 16, 2006, 4:31 pm PST

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I lost my virginity Monday night by a guy I been talking to on the internet for a while. I was curious about anal sex. 

I feel a little guilty about it now, since we werent a couple. Is it commn for guys to experiment with sexual intercourse first with someone they are not dating
I kinda feel like I used myself to have sex with someone I wasnt in love with and with that being my first time it doesnt have that special feeling associated with it
 

Do you think homosexuality is healthy? I have looked at all the reasons that are out there for why people think its healthy and they are flawed,which means they are not true.So the question is do you think it is important to find out what is true or just believe what others say,and yes people have sex with people they dont know because they only care about using another rather then caring about another,and you learned that just sex is not that special on its own.This kind of thing takes thought and has you discover what is important,it is wise to consider that homosexuality is something that could be unhealthy and that there is something you are meant to learn from it,for example,men have had a problem with loving other men and this world would be a different and better place if they did,but our society has believed that sex is an expression of love, sex is not an expression of love most of the time.And for a man to love another man sex has nothing to do with it,sex alot of times is used as a way to cover up the emotional maturity they dont have.Someone who is homosexual learns alot of disfunctional behaviour from our straight community,our straight community is totally immature when it comes to understanding Love and Sex.They have just as much to learn as any homosexual,so even if homosexuality is not healthy don't be hard on your- self  and even if you make mistakes remember that everybody has alot to learn about the very things you may be learning about.
 
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March 16, 2006, 9:14 pm PST

Homosexuality

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Do you think homosexuality is healthy? I have looked at all the reasons that are out there for why people think its healthy and they are flawed,which means they are not true.So the question is do you think it is important to find out what is true or just believe what others say,and yes people have sex with people they dont know because they only care about using another rather then caring about another,and you learned that just sex is not that special on its own.This kind of thing takes thought and has you discover what is important,it is wise to consider that homosexuality is something that could be unhealthy and that there is something you are meant to learn from it,for example,men have had a problem with loving other men and this world would be a different and better place if they did,but our society has believed that sex is an expression of love, sex is not an expression of love most of the time.And for a man to love another man sex has nothing to do with it,sex alot of times is used as a way to cover up the emotional maturity they dont have.Someone who is homosexual learns alot of disfunctional behaviour from our straight community,our straight community is totally immature when it comes to understanding Love and Sex.They have just as much to learn as any homosexual,so even if homosexuality is not healthy don't be hard on your- self  and even if you make mistakes remember that everybody has alot to learn about the very things you may be learning about.

I been struggling with my sexuality for a long time. I been in and out of seeing 2 counselors 

  

I feel bad I lost my virginity Has anyone ever done what I did? See the guy still talks to me..BUT I dont know if he wants to date me 

  

I dont know if homosexuality is healthy or not..I have not really met any positive gay people to say for sure 

  

HOW CAN I FEEL BETTER ABOUT MYSELF IN REGARDS TO HAVING SEX FOR THE 1st TIME!! I NEED BAD...I been thinking of suicide SERIOUSLY 

 

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