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Created on : Friday, July 01, 2005, 05:18:07 pm
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Have you come out of the closet to find love and support? Or are those close to you having a difficult time accepting your lifestyle?

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October 26, 2005, 12:10 pm CDT

Homosexuality

Quote From: denise2u

The thing with this GAY issue now could be eliminated.......if things like sexual preference were kept where it should.....IN THE BEDROOM.  I never told my children or anyone about my sexual desires or actions with my husband.  My Daughter, like Angela feel that it's 2005 and OUT it should be.  Has cause major problems in our family, as there is my 9 yr old granddaughter involved with this.  Had she just kept this relationship with her new GAY gf in prospective, our family would be ok now.  But no.........it has to be jammed down our throats and accepted cause it's 2005.....BIG MISTAKE on her part! 

maybe shes excited about feeling so much for another human being and wanted to share this with her mother? big mistake that was indeed on her part. 

  

You say sexual preference should be kept in the bedroom and im sure your daughter does not want to share her sexual antics with you but shes in a relationship with this woman, shes not just having sex. And until you see the difference between the two i truely feel sorry for your daughter. 

 
October 26, 2005, 3:22 pm CDT

ok...

Quote From: denise2u

The thing with this GAY issue now could be eliminated.......if things like sexual preference were kept where it should.....IN THE BEDROOM.  I never told my children or anyone about my sexual desires or actions with my husband.  My Daughter, like Angela feel that it's 2005 and OUT it should be.  Has cause major problems in our family, as there is my 9 yr old granddaughter involved with this.  Had she just kept this relationship with her new GAY gf in prospective, our family would be ok now.  But no.........it has to be jammed down our throats and accepted cause it's 2005.....BIG MISTAKE on her part! 
  Your saying this like its a fad that will go away.
 I understand where your comming from, and agree to a certain level. I do feel that your sex-life should stay in the bedroom, and any display of affection beyond hugging should stay on your property (car, house, yard,...), but what your saying goes a little far.
 It's quite obvious that your in denial of your daughter being a lesbian. I don't think shes trying to throw her sexuality on you as a "Its 2005!" thing. She probably just wants you to understand what she is and be tolerant, if not fully supportave.
You also say  " [I never told] anyone about my sexual desires or actions with my husband." But, in truth, you have. Anyone who sees you in public with him can see that your married (if you wear your ring),and that you are both heterosexual and sexually active by the fact that you have children. In the same way, now that your daughter has a girlfriend they're going to go out together. People will notice and see that they are gay.
I'm sure that if the two of you sat down and had a talk about this, you could come to an agreement. I of course realize that thats not as easy as it sounds,but try.

 
October 27, 2005, 7:56 am CDT

Sorry for my Daugher?

Quote From: gebham

maybe shes excited about feeling so much for another human being and wanted to share this with her mother? big mistake that was indeed on her part. 

  

You say sexual preference should be kept in the bedroom and im sure your daughter does not want to share her sexual antics with you but shes in a relationship with this woman, shes not just having sex. And until you see the difference between the two i truely feel sorry for your daughter. 

Maybe I did not make it clear, it's not only me as her mother affected by this, it's a little innocent 9 yr old girl (her daughter) that she should be concerned about that this hole situation is affecting.  She should be as excited about feelings tor her daughter to understand that her daughter doesn't even know about sex MUCH LESS putting this right in the open in front of her.  Even my daugher's PSY said this should have been kept at just a friend level as a 9 yr old in no way understands her mothers complete change in dress..(she totally looks like a young boy now) and she even to the point of when she mets her  21 yr old lover.......my daughter is 34......gets motel and sleeps with her lover with my granddaughter in the other bed in the room.  Do you feel sorry for my daughter now or my granddaughter?  
 
October 27, 2005, 10:20 am CDT

Homosexuality

Quote From: denise2u

Maybe I did not make it clear, it's not only me as her mother affected by this, it's a little innocent 9 yr old girl (her daughter) that she should be concerned about that this hole situation is affecting.  She should be as excited about feelings tor her daughter to understand that her daughter doesn't even know about sex MUCH LESS putting this right in the open in front of her.  Even my daugher's PSY said this should have been kept at just a friend level as a 9 yr old in no way understands her mothers complete change in dress..(she totally looks like a young boy now) and she even to the point of when she mets her  21 yr old lover.......my daughter is 34......gets motel and sleeps with her lover with my granddaughter in the other bed in the room.  Do you feel sorry for my daughter now or my granddaughter?  

The fact that the woman is affectionate around her daughter is perfectly fine in my opinion. My parents were loving towards each other and i grew up knowing they loved each other which made me feel really safe and at home. It doesnt matter that they are of the same sex, they should be loving to a certain extent towards each other, openly. 

  

As for sleeping with her lover with your granddaughter in the room.....are you sure this happens? dont mean that offensively...but how do you know? And by sleep with....im assuming that you mean theyre having sex whilst she is in the room..otherwise i dont see the problem... 

  

if she is having sex with her daughter in the room and you know this for sure, altho i dont know how u would know this.....then you should perhaps mention it to your daughter....as its not appropriate regardless of gender...i just hope ure upset because of the 'sex' issue and not because they are two women... 

  

As for the clothes....she has a right to dress how she pleases, if she were straight and wearing those clothes would you have a problem with that and if so.....whyyyy? 


Gem 

 
October 27, 2005, 3:38 pm CDT

Homosexuality

Quote From: denise2u

Maybe I did not make it clear, it's not only me as her mother affected by this, it's a little innocent 9 yr old girl (her daughter) that she should be concerned about that this hole situation is affecting.  She should be as excited about feelings tor her daughter to understand that her daughter doesn't even know about sex MUCH LESS putting this right in the open in front of her.  Even my daugher's PSY said this should have been kept at just a friend level as a 9 yr old in no way understands her mothers complete change in dress..(she totally looks like a young boy now) and she even to the point of when she mets her  21 yr old lover.......my daughter is 34......gets motel and sleeps with her lover with my granddaughter in the other bed in the room.  Do you feel sorry for my daughter now or my granddaughter?  
 I think your being too dramatic.
 Trust me, 9year olds are not that innocent. I knew about gays in kindergarden, by 9 I was quite aware of sex. I believe I was 13 when I saw my first piece gay porn. What I'm getting at is that I don't believe that this is that truamatizing as you think.
 I do however agree with you that the child should not be around during sex. She should hire a sitter for those occasions, or you could offer.
As far as her apperance, I think your granddaughter is old enough to understand.
Once again, I HIGHLY RECOMEND that the two of you sit down and talk about all of this in a calm manner.
I guess thats it...
 
October 28, 2005, 7:31 am CDT

Finding Out

Morning, I just needed a place to vent, so I hope this is appropriate.  Last evening my youngest daughter who is 26 told me she is Gay.  In many ways this was not a big surprise, an that surprises me, she has never discussed the subject with me before, an has been married for almost 4 yrs. actually the Man she is married to has been her best friend since they were both quite young.  From what she says he knows.  What his feelings are that is something I am not sure of.  I have however known they have been having problems on an off for awhile now, an she has just moved in with me about 3 wks. ago saying they are going to get divorced.  One good thing in this situation is there are no children.  Well, I suppose by writting this I have now admitted it.  It will take some getting use to but she is my daughter an as long as she is happy she has my support.  Boy is this going to shock many people in her life, but I realize she needs to deal with that an all I can do is be there for her.  The only problem is she needs to realize I have my own personal issues, regarding life changes going on, I have started Therapy for Panic Disorder, Depression an also Dissociated Idenity Disorder, so my own health needs to be dealt with as well.  Guess she an I have a long road ahead, hopfully someone who reads this might have some words of encourgement.  Takes for taking the time to read this.  Enjoy an have a good day.
 
October 28, 2005, 11:07 am CDT

Homosexuality

Quote From: aqua431

Morning, I just needed a place to vent, so I hope this is appropriate.  Last evening my youngest daughter who is 26 told me she is Gay.  In many ways this was not a big surprise, an that surprises me, she has never discussed the subject with me before, an has been married for almost 4 yrs. actually the Man she is married to has been her best friend since they were both quite young.  From what she says he knows.  What his feelings are that is something I am not sure of.  I have however known they have been having problems on an off for awhile now, an she has just moved in with me about 3 wks. ago saying they are going to get divorced.  One good thing in this situation is there are no children.  Well, I suppose by writting this I have now admitted it.  It will take some getting use to but she is my daughter an as long as she is happy she has my support.  Boy is this going to shock many people in her life, but I realize she needs to deal with that an all I can do is be there for her.  The only problem is she needs to realize I have my own personal issues, regarding life changes going on, I have started Therapy for Panic Disorder, Depression an also Dissociated Idenity Disorder, so my own health needs to be dealt with as well.  Guess she an I have a long road ahead, hopfully someone who reads this might have some words of encourgement.  Takes for taking the time to read this.  Enjoy an have a good day.

Hey,  

 i just read your post and if its alright i just wanted to say good luck and i hope things go well for you and your family. I think you and your daughter are lucky to have each other. :) Ive been through depression, though again im no expert and all i can say as u know is some days are tough and some easier, but i wish with all my heart happiness for you ahead because its an amazing place to get to when you do. 


you seem strong so i wish you luck 

 
October 28, 2005, 6:57 pm CDT

i am not GAY!!!

Quote From: gebham

just a question to hurtinggurl.....you say its a choice and that we werent born gay and that everyday we make the choice to be gay...if you really believe this, each day do u decide to be straight, and if so, if you have to think about who you are attracted to so much, maybe your gay....being straight shouldnt be a choice for you, it should be something you feel...if its not, id consisder taking a hard look at yourself and why you have to make this choice. 

;) just a thought. 

  

ewwwwww...i am not gay & just because i chose to be straight that means im really gay??..what the heck that makes no sence what-so-ever~ok gayis a stinkin choice..God did not intend for u to be gay if he is totally against..i think u guys should read this: 

Does Evil Exist?
>
>  Did God create everything that exists? Does evil exist? Did God create
>  evil?
>
>  The University professor challenged his students with this question. "Did
>  God
>  create everything that exists?" A student bravely replied, "Yes he did!"
>  "God
>  created everything?" The professor asked. "Yes sir", the student replied.
>
>  The professor answered, "If God created everything, then God created evil,
>  since
>  evil exists, and according to the principal that our works define who we
>  are,
>  then God is evil." The student became quiet before such an answer. The
>  professor, quite pleased with himself, boasted to the students that he had
>  proven once more that the Christian faith was a myth.
>
>  Another student raised his hand and said, "May I ask you a ! question,
>  professor?"
>  "Of course", replied the professor. The student stood up and asked,
>  "Professor,
>  does cold exist?" "What kind of question is this? Of course it exists.
>  Have you
>  never been cold?" The students snickered at the young man's question.
>
>  The young man replied, "In fact sir, cold does not exist. According to the
>  laws
>  of physics, what we consider cold is in reality the absence of heat. Every
>  body
>  or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and
>  heat is
>  what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero
>  (-460? F) is the total absence of heat; all matter becomes inert and
>  incapable
>  of reaction at that temperature. Cold does not exist. We have created this
>  word
>  to describe how we feel if we have no heat."
>
>  The student continued, "Professor, does darkness exist?" The professor
>  responded, "Of course it does." The student replied, "Once again you are
>  wrong
>  sir, darkness does not exist either. Da! rkness is in reality the absence
>  of
>  light. Light we can study, but not darkness. In fact, we can use Newton's
>  prism
>  to break white light into many colors and study the various wavelengths of
>  each
>  color. You cannot measure darkness. A simple ray of light can break into a
>  world
>  of darkness and illuminate it. How can you know how dark a certain space
>  is? You
>  measure the amount of light present. Isn't this correct? Darkness is a
>  term used
>  by man to describe what happens when there is no light present."
>
>  Finally the young man asked the professor, "Sir, does evil exist?" Now
>  uncertain, the professor responded, "Of course, as I have already said. We
>  see
>  it everyday. It is in the daily examples of man's inhumanity to man. It is
>  in
>  the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These
>  manifestations are nothing else but evil.
>
>  To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist, sir, or at least it
>  does not
>  exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like
>  darkness
>  and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God
>  did
>  not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have
>  God's
>  love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no
>  heat,
>  or the darkness that comes when there is no light."
>
>  The professor sat down.
>
>  The young man's name -- Albert Einstein
 

 
October 29, 2005, 7:47 am CDT

In Defense Of Guy Rights

Quote From: denise2u

The thing with this GAY issue now could be eliminated.......if things like sexual preference were kept where it should.....IN THE BEDROOM.  I never told my children or anyone about my sexual desires or actions with my husband.  My Daughter, like Angela feel that it's 2005 and OUT it should be.  Has cause major problems in our family, as there is my 9 yr old granddaughter involved with this.  Had she just kept this relationship with her new GAY gf in prospective, our family would be ok now.  But no.........it has to be jammed down our throats and accepted cause it's 2005.....BIG MISTAKE on her part! 
I would just like to say one thing.  Obviously, each family an their situation is different, but I am a strong beliver that if you maintain the Love an Respect in a family who or what a member of that family might do can be worked out. I don't intent to throw the 2005 issue at you, nor can  I pretend to  understand your situation, but family is family, there are far worse things a person could do to as you said " cause major problems " but  however we are put here on this earth to be forgiving people, an without that even small issues can become large after time an if that happens none of us would beable to except what another family member does.  Short of a major crime against another person, hope that goes without having to go into detail.  I hope your able to find a place in your heart to realize your daughter is still your daughter an that kind of love should be unconditional.  I truly am sorry for your pain.  Maybe you should consider getting some Professional help so you can better relate, just a suggestion.  Good luck
 
October 30, 2005, 1:29 pm CST

immature

 I think hurtinggirl needs to be a little more respectful...saying EWWWW I'm not gay is quite immature.
Guess it shows her age.  We don't have to agree if being gay is a choice or we are born with it.  But at least be nice!
I'm 27 and dealing with the issue if I'm gay or not.  It's very hard.  Tried to be with guys but wasn't happy.  I'm in a relationship with a wonderful guy now, but it doesn't feel right.  I'm not sure what'll happen.  Makes me very depressed and I wish with all my being I could just be straight and marry a man.  So is this my choice as some of you say it is?  No I choose to be straight!  But I'm not happy in straight relationships.  So do I stay in a straight relationship and just "learn" to be happy the rest of my life?  What do those people that think gay is a choice suggest I do????
 
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