Topic : Homosexuality

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Created on : Friday, July 01, 2005, 05:18:07 pm
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Have you come out of the closet to find love and support? Or are those close to you having a difficult time accepting your lifestyle?

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January 12, 2006, 8:51 am PST

i've had enough...

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that shows my age??..riiiight..i thought my reaction was just perfect & i gave it with all the respect there is..its just that someone accused me of really being gay cuz im straight & that was a total shock& gay is a choice....stay with guys..i dunno what else there is more to say?¿?¿
     LISTEN!!!!!I've been reading you posts and i feel the need to tell you this. Being gay is as much a choice for them as being straight and disrespectful is to YOU!!!!!!You were preaching about how God is a loveing God...which is true!!!! But you need to open your eyes and educate yourself about this topic before you go around saying things like you did!!! You have to understand that homosexuality has been around since the beginning and is even found in the wild.God makes millions of different breeds of flowers and animals, and dozens of nationalities too.You need to accept that he's created the same amount of variety for sexuallity!!! God makes no mistakes, everyone he's created is EXACTLY how he wanted them to be. It's tough having to admit your sexuallity to youself ASSPECIALLY when people like you find that it it their place to make comments like you did!!!! We've got enough of that on the streets!!!We don't need that here too!!!A flower is a flower no matter what language you speak,and love is love no matter how you express it...
 
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January 12, 2006, 9:16 am PST

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 (* The Dr. Phil site needs more variety. This is the best place I could find to post my problem.*)
    I almost envy you gay guys. I know its hard, but once you come out  you can go about finding 'someone'.
I'm transsexual. I like men; but instead of being happy as a normal straight girl my mind is fixed on becomeing a man. I cannot see myself loving a man as a woman. I know you all think I'm crazy for wanting the life of a gay man over a straight girl, and I agree. I've felt this way for a long time now and I'm pretty young, so I think this is built-in. Its problematic, I'm something of am extream sexest to women because of it and certain members of my family (grandpa) like to call me a dyke. T_T;
 I admit, I do try my hardest to look male; even to the point of degrading my health. But its no good. Looking like a man doent mean anything unless your anatomically one.
I need a little help; what should I do? Seek counciling? Persue it? Or should I just give up and put on a dress? I doubt I could ever afford the surgery (around $50,000 at least), and the result isnt exactlly 'good looking'. Most of all what and how should I tell my folks? My big sis knows and I think my mom does, but what about everyone else? I'm very confused...

   hi!!! iv'e been reading your posts lately( new member) and you've really inspired me!!! you're soo strong...i can't believe that someone who's SOOOO young has to deal with this!!! You're amazing... 

    i wanted to tell you that because you're so young that it may not be best to tell your family just yet.I feel that before you throw them something like that you should probably wait a while. I say this because of two things! when i told my mom about my sexuality...she didn't react well because i was so young. And two,as time went by she realized that my attraction's weren't just a faze( now that i'm going to college and am old enough to make my own decisions, it's become easier to talk to her about it.)Your family might be thinking that what yu're feeling is just a faze too!!! Over time they'll realize how serious you are about it . I'm not sure how your parents react to things so...my advice might be of no use to you T_T but...as time goes by , little by little you know, try to open that  "window" and get a little talk here and thereabout your feelings and/ or things relating to it so that when the time comes when you feel that you are ready to tell your family... it won't feel like as big of a shockto them because of the little talksyou've had . Hopefully you could get something from this and im not waisting your time...sorry if i am...i would love to hear from you soon and from the looks of your icon there( the anime guy) you seem like you'de be ALOT of fun:)  

  

  

 
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January 14, 2006, 4:55 am PST

Looking for Information

 Does anyone know any websites that are free to find e-pals for lesbians ? I am not looking for a relationship, just a friend to write with and all I find is web sites with sexual enuendos. Please I will take any suggestions, I need friends. I don't drink or do drugs so I don't go to bars and I don't know where else to go to meet people. But I love to chat on my pc. Anyone ???                        Lona
 
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January 15, 2006, 7:04 pm PST

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I find it sad when I read about how those who confide their confused state of sexuality (same-sex attraction) to friends and family, are met with disapproval or disdain. If ANYONE should be unconditionally supportive, it should be those in someone's inner circle. I know my reference to homosexuality as a "confused state" is going to anger some, but this is not my intent. I have a cousin (male) who has been struggling with his sexual identity for years now. A long time ago, I told him that it would not change my feelings for him no matter what he "was," but that he may want to speak with both a priest (spiritual counselor) and psychiatrist trained in dealing with dysfunctional sexuality. When an individual finds themselves sexually attracted to members of the same sex, there has to be conflict based upon the basic and primative knowledge that this is just not right. While it is true that God made everyone, this is not to say that God "made" someone homosexual any more than God "made" someone afflicted with any other genetic malformation. Since men cannot give birth from their posterior and women cannot impregnate themselves with sexual implements, it can never be said that God "intended" that there be sexual relations between individuals of the same sex.  Accordingly, I would strongly advise anyone who calls themselves "gay" or "bi-sexual" to at least attempt to seek counseling with an open mind. This way, when they speak to family and friends about the matter, they can also state that they are seeking counseling to deal with it themselves. I wish you all luck.

  I am a 25 year old straight woman and I can not imagine how hard it would be to pretend to like girls therefore it must be extremely hard and gross I would imagine to pretend to be straight and basically be living a lie.  That being said I am also a religious person so I really do have mixed feeling on the issue.  I don't believe that it is my place to judge because I don't have a perfect knowledge of the challenges our Heavenly Father has given to any of us.  I do believe that some people are born  gay,  but I also believe that some people choose the lifestyle.  I'm sorry I know everyone is going to hate me now.  This is my reasoning though. 1.  There are cases of one identical twin being gay and the other straight which could mean in that case it is learned.  Although they are working on different theories for why that could be.  2.  The Greek society use to be predominately homosexual I'm guessing they weren't all born that way. 3.  We live in a society where girl on girl action is considered hot, we see it on TV, read about it in the newspapers.  I think it plant's seeds of curiosity and when the opportunity comes they try it and think oh that kinda felt good.  

  I'm sorry if I offended anybody.  I'm not judging anybody. I firmly believe that one of the reason Heavenly Father sent us here was to experience agency and make our own choices.  It's not my place to judge anyone as person.   I'm sure your all wonderful people worthy of love and happiness and I truly wish you all the best 

  

 
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January 16, 2006, 4:59 pm PST

seriously?

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  I am a 25 year old straight woman and I can not imagine how hard it would be to pretend to like girls therefore it must be extremely hard and gross I would imagine to pretend to be straight and basically be living a lie.  That being said I am also a religious person so I really do have mixed feeling on the issue.  I don't believe that it is my place to judge because I don't have a perfect knowledge of the challenges our Heavenly Father has given to any of us.  I do believe that some people are born  gay,  but I also believe that some people choose the lifestyle.  I'm sorry I know everyone is going to hate me now.  This is my reasoning though. 1.  There are cases of one identical twin being gay and the other straight which could mean in that case it is learned.  Although they are working on different theories for why that could be.  2.  The Greek society use to be predominately homosexual I'm guessing they weren't all born that way. 3.  We live in a society where girl on girl action is considered hot, we see it on TV, read about it in the newspapers.  I think it plant's seeds of curiosity and when the opportunity comes they try it and think oh that kinda felt good.  

  I'm sorry if I offended anybody.  I'm not judging anybody. I firmly believe that one of the reason Heavenly Father sent us here was to experience agency and make our own choices.  It's not my place to judge anyone as person.   I'm sure your all wonderful people worthy of love and happiness and I truly wish you all the best 

  

Hello, I usually don't come to this site, just happened to be wandering about..... I am not gay and have no problems with people being gay.  I just saw this posting and had to make a few points myself.  About the whole twin thing, about one being gay and one not being gay, does not matter if they are twins.  Sure, they may look alike, but I bet they don't act alike or think alike or even like the same things.  Different personalities for two totally different people.  Just because they are twins, does not make them one person.  The Greeks, I would say, did not consider themselves homosexual or bi, they were apart of  a different culture than the United States and believed different things.  I'm sure it was one of the ways to connect with their Gods and Goddesses.  Every man was a part of God and every woman was a part of the Goddess.  I'm sure that they were born that way, because you see, in today's society it is frowned upon.  I  bet that if people didn't make such a big deal about it then there would be a lot more people openly gay in the US.  That is the life they lived.  And I'm sure that if a teenage girl sees "girl on girl" action or whatever you want to call it, that alone is not going to "plant seeds of curiosity", because I am willing to bet that some teenage girl or boy, has already had some curiosities.  That is normal.  Anyway, just wanted to say something about this topic and hope everyone is doing well.
 
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January 23, 2006, 11:01 am PST

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Hello, I usually don't come to this site, just happened to be wandering about..... I am not gay and have no problems with people being gay.  I just saw this posting and had to make a few points myself.  About the whole twin thing, about one being gay and one not being gay, does not matter if they are twins.  Sure, they may look alike, but I bet they don't act alike or think alike or even like the same things.  Different personalities for two totally different people.  Just because they are twins, does not make them one person.  The Greeks, I would say, did not consider themselves homosexual or bi, they were apart of  a different culture than the United States and believed different things.  I'm sure it was one of the ways to connect with their Gods and Goddesses.  Every man was a part of God and every woman was a part of the Goddess.  I'm sure that they were born that way, because you see, in today's society it is frowned upon.  I  bet that if people didn't make such a big deal about it then there would be a lot more people openly gay in the US.  That is the life they lived.  And I'm sure that if a teenage girl sees "girl on girl" action or whatever you want to call it, that alone is not going to "plant seeds of curiosity", because I am willing to bet that some teenage girl or boy, has already had some curiosities.  That is normal.  Anyway, just wanted to say something about this topic and hope everyone is doing well.

i could not agree with you more.  i am also a straight woman who has had several gay friends in my life and consider myself to be very open-minded on the subject of homosexuality.  i also had many female friends who "experimented" when they were younger-- they were single and all parties were consenting, so i never saw it to be a big deal.  i think  that our society is starting to open up more towards homosexuality and this might  lead young people to want to experiment with their sexuality-- but no, i don't think anyone would choose to be gay, even after some experimenting or having gay friends or whatever!  just think of the judgments and prejudices-- why would anyone choose that for the rest of their lives?  and that being said, i'm sure those judgments and prejudices are precisely why people who ARE gay may find a hard time with it.  but going to church or having therapy isn't going to change who they inately are.  just as a straight person isn't going to be able to coax themselves into being attracted to members of their own sex.   

 

i appreciate that everyone has their own opinions and i do get that many people use the bible as means for their arguments against homosexuality.  but the way i see it is God made us who we are, so how can homosexuality be wrong if that's how He made some of us to be.  and i don't think that the be-all, end-all for our existance on this planet is merely to procreate.  and anyway- hello!  if a gay person wants to have a child, they can surely find a way to do so!   

 

the bottom line, to me, is- who really freakin cares anyway.  let others live their lives!  quit judging others just because that is not who YOU are.  hating people just because they are gay or are black or white or jewish or fill-in-the-blank-- what a waste of time!!  if everyone concentrated on making the most of their own lives and being happy, then perhaps we'd all be better off.   

 
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January 25, 2006, 7:44 pm PST

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January 25, 2006, 7:56 pm PST

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This is new for me not used to spiting my feeling out there but a friend of mine suggested that I talk to someone.  I'm 42, married, have had a sexual expierence with a woman.  My husband knows.  Our sex life is not great there is no passion or intimacy just sex and for the most part he is quick.  The woman i had a relationship with I am in love with.  She knows this but I don't think she understands just how much in love with her I am.  I talk to her probably monthly.  She is in a relationship that is rocky at the best of times.  My marriage is definitely rocky he dosen't get along with my 17yr old son, treats him as if he was his brother which should be loving but it is not.  We talk my husband and i and as long as we stay on general topics we get along but go to personal and then we start blaming.  We where separated about 5 years ago thought he had changed as I had I came back in financial difficulty.  Used to talk to him about my feelings for this other woman, he said he understood and gave me opportunity to explore them.  Now he just throws them in my face so he does not know I still have the same feelings.  I used to get close to her and my heart pounded, I would get intensly passionate.  It took a long time for me to admit my feelings for her she like wise but because of family complications we decided we could never be together.  I long for the feeling i had/have for her with my husband but no such luck.  More to this story but enough for now any advice.
 
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January 25, 2006, 8:02 pm PST

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 Does anyone know any websites that are free to find e-pals for lesbians ? I am not looking for a relationship, just a friend to write with and all I find is web sites with sexual enuendos. Please I will take any suggestions, I need friends. I don't drink or do drugs so I don't go to bars and I don't know where else to go to meet people. But I love to chat on my pc. Anyone ???                        Lona
Lona, I am not sure of any web sites but I would be willing to correspond with you if you would like.  I can't say i have any answers nor do I need a relationship right now but corresponding to some one would be nice.  M
 
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January 26, 2006, 3:54 am PST

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This is new for me not used to spiting my feeling out there but a friend of mine suggested that I talk to someone.  I'm 42, married, have had a sexual expierence with a woman.  My husband knows.  Our sex life is not great there is no passion or intimacy just sex and for the most part he is quick.  The woman i had a relationship with I am in love with.  She knows this but I don't think she understands just how much in love with her I am.  I talk to her probably monthly.  She is in a relationship that is rocky at the best of times.  My marriage is definitely rocky he dosen't get along with my 17yr old son, treats him as if he was his brother which should be loving but it is not.  We talk my husband and i and as long as we stay on general topics we get along but go to personal and then we start blaming.  We where separated about 5 years ago thought he had changed as I had I came back in financial difficulty.  Used to talk to him about my feelings for this other woman, he said he understood and gave me opportunity to explore them.  Now he just throws them in my face so he does not know I still have the same feelings.  I used to get close to her and my heart pounded, I would get intensly passionate.  It took a long time for me to admit my feelings for her she like wise but because of family complications we decided we could never be together.  I long for the feeling i had/have for her with my husband but no such luck.  More to this story but enough for now any advice.

This is essentially how I came out when I was 19 years old.  I was engaged to the guy you described- who I'll call "T".  He knew I'd always had feelings for women.  But he loved me and I thought he was going to take care of me - and that was the glue that held us together.  Then he got into drinking heavily, doing hallucinigenic drugs and smoking pot.  He was neglecting me emotionally and phsyically.  The relationship got to be messy and I jumped ship to be with a wonderful woman I'd met at work- "D".   

  

Suddenly I felt free.  That's the best way I can describe it.  She was the catalyst for my taking hold of a life I was destined to live.  A life I understood.  Things made sense- I felt whole.  Making the choice to come out felt like the most loving, honorable thing I could have done for myself.  It's so hard to put into words.   

  

Together, "D" and I made some huge leaps and life changes in a short time, as we both had big common goals. I will tell you we didn't last.  A relationship with this kind of intense rescuee/rescuer foundation can't last.  (However, we're still good friends, after all these years.)  BUT my life is amazing in ways it never would have been had I remained trapped in the life that wasn't meant for me.  

  

When I was with "T," I had no visions, no dreams, no goals.  I understand now that I was depressed.  But my life seemed 2 demensional.  I felt like I was walking around in a dream- or living someone else's life.  I worked at a gas station and a direct care facility.  I had no college degree and came from a working class family, so I figured this was my life.  A dingy apt. in a big dingy city working high demand, low wage jobs in a co-cependant marriage for the rest of my life. 

  

The day I came out, I felt a shift.  I realize I was euphoric with infatuation- but it was more than that.  I felt like I was waking from a dream- like my eyes were suddenly open to endless possibilities.  I immediately started remembering life goals and dreams I had as a child.  I woke up to my life.   

  

12 years later, (I'm 32 years old), I'm in an amazing relationship and together we own (mortgage free- yippee!) a 26 acre farm on the top of a hill in New England, run a successful carpentry business,  are artists, have horses (my childhood dream),  and have many more common dreams to fullfill together.  We have a good social life, laugh, play, work, and support eachother attentively and lovingly in times of crisis.  We certainly aren't rich by any means and have to achieve our goals with good old fashioned "elbow grease" and perseverance, but we're financially stable and that's a first in my life.  I KNOW I never would have acheived ANY of these things had I continued to try and ignore my true self.   

  

I hope my story helps shed some light on your situation and makes you feel a little less alone.  Honoring who you are is the kindest, most important thing you can do for yourself.  You need to ask yourself some hard questions.  Are you just looking for an easy out from a difficult relationship with your husband?  Or are you truly not heterosexual and have been ignoring your sexuality for the past 42 years?  Or are you just bored and need some excitement?   What are you trying to escape- relationship troubles or a heterosexual lifestyle?  I'll tell you frankly that a lesbian relationship has many more complications and difficult moments b/c of social remifications than a heterosexual one.  So if it's relationship work you're afraid of, you'll be unpleasantly surprised.  You're son is old enough that you could embark on a new life of your own.  But your troubles will follow you if you don't deal with them.   I don't mean this in a harsh way- just trying to offer some advise you were asking for.  Good luck to you!  I hope you can make things work for yourself. 

 

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