Topic : Homosexuality

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Created on : Friday, July 01, 2005, 05:18:07 pm
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Have you come out of the closet to find love and support? Or are those close to you having a difficult time accepting your lifestyle?

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January 31, 2007, 5:27 am PST

Homosexuality

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You have already received very sound advice (although I did find the last post to you to be somewhat attacking in its nature - don't let that hurt you) and I only have a little bit to add.  (well I say a little bit, but have never been known for being succinct, so we shall see lol) 

 

I am most concerned that you haven't spoken to your daughter since she told you she is leaning toward being attracted to females.  I am concerned because she may be feeling that you are disappointed, or having some other type of negative reaction about it.  That could be leaving her feeling scared and/or sad and worried.  Is there any reason you have to wait until Monday evening to speak to her?  If you are a little unsure about picking up the phone, maybe you could send her an email.  Let her know everything you are, and have been, feeling - your concerns and worries.  Be very honest about why you have those concerns.  Let her know that her sexual orientation does not change or lessen your love of, respect for, and pride in, her.  I'm just thinking she probably needs alot of reassurance from you right now - that may not be easy to do, as you are working your way through your feelings - but IMO, it seems essential that she knows you are 100% there for her, in whatever way she needs you to be, as you have been throughout her life.  In a phone call, or email, you could ask HER the questions you have asked us.  Ask her if she shares your fears about her teammates and other people 'finding out'.  I'm suggesting you start this dialogue with her in either a phone call or email - because it may be a less difficult way to get it going.  Then, when y'all do see each other there will possibly be less awkwardness and you can just wrap her in your arms and tell her you love her and are proud of her and her achievements. 

 

I empathize with your pain over the fact your daughter didn't come to you about this, that instead you had to ask.  I have 5 children - the girls are 15, 12 and 11 and the boys are 8 and 6.  I tell all of them, often, that there is not a single thing in this world that would cause me or their dad to love and respect them any less than we do now.  With the older ones, I speak to making bad choices as far as unprotected sex and alcohol etc, with the younger ones it centers on the mistakes little guys can, and do, make.  Just about a week ago my oldest and I were talking about sexual orientation.  We were discussing whether or not she has any peers who have come out as being bisexual or homosexual.  Interestingly - she said she doesn't know of one person who has said they are gay - but that several girls in the 'goth' clicque state they are bisexual.  I pointed out to her that in a school the size of hers, there have to be homosexual people, but that for whatever reason they are not choosing to say they are (possibly the usual fears about discrimination  - which, unfortunately, still are legit fears).  I went on to tell her that if she ever starts to feel her sexual orientation is different than what it is now (she likes boys, but won't be allowed to actually date until Sept when she turns 16) - then her dad and I would be worried for and about her (because of said discrimination), but that our love and pride in her would not be lessened one bit.  Her reaction was just  "I know Mommy".  However, I also understand that does NOT guarantee she would come to me with that info in the case she did start to feel attracted to females.  I think she would have reservations about doing so, because she would know it would make me worried on her behalf.  Perhaps that is where your daughter was southjersey.  It wasn't that she didn't trust in you, or your love for her, but rather that she didn't want you to worry about her and the ramifications being homosexual or bisexual would have on her life and her standing amongst her peers.  So - quit beating yourself up for the fact she didn't come to you and tell you that right now she leans more towards being attracted to a female.  The reason(s) she didn't may or may not be what I described, but the fact that she did not do so, in and of itself, does not mean you failed her in any way during her younger years. 

 

Well, as per my usual, I said I would add a little bit and then wrote quite alot. One thing I have to ask - how is your extended family going to treat your daughter if she does indeed decide that she is gay or bisexual?  Do you worry their religious beliefs are going to stand in the way of them being accepting of and loving towards your daughter?  I don't mean to infer their religious beliefs are wrong, but only hope they will not allow those beliefs to cause them to turn away from her.  IMO who she is attracted to, and chooses to have intimate relations with, shouldn't change their regard for, and love of, your daughter.  I hope that will be the case. 

 

Best wishes to you and your 3 daughters southjersey.  Right now your oldest seems to need you alot - she will need your support, especially if she does choose to 'come out', and isn't treated well by her peers and extended family.  Don't forget to also talk about this with your younger daughters though, especially the middle one who alerted you to the fact your oldest was possibly a lesbian (you didn't give the age of your youngest, so I am not sure how much about this you should discuss with her).  Be their support system and also seek out one for yourself.  This board is one place, but I would also suggest you find one for parents of homosexual children - that should not be hard to find on the internet.  People who have been where you are will probably have the best advice for you and also be a great support.  Take care - and get in touch with your oldest daughter as soon as you can!  :)  Roxy

Thank you soo much for your support and advice.  I may have led you to believe that my daughter and I haven't talked because of what she told me.  This is not the case.  I did go to her awards ceremony last Monday and it was wonderful.  The moment my daughter and I are together it's as though nothing had ever been said.

 

as far as my extended family goes.  Well, my Mother is in complete denial.  She will not discuss it not does she believe my daughter is gay.  I have told her many times to get over this before she risks losing my daughter.  Another word on this part.  I feel my Mother will accept this over time as my daughter is the center of HER world.  She follows her in the papers and magazines and couldn't be more proud of her.  As far as her Father...he has been out of the picture since she was five.  Her younger sister seems to be fine with it and my youngest who is a boy is only eleven does not know.

 

Again, thank you for taking the time and respecting my feelings.  You reply was honest without being nasty.

 

p.s. My daughter came home over the weekend and we had a great time!  Thanks again!!! (:

 
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January 31, 2007, 8:08 pm PST

Gay and proud

 Hi i am a 27 year old gay mail or Homosexuality for me bening gay it is not that bad at all yes we all have problems who doesent.

 

what i am trying to get at is bening gay is not a bad thing at all it is a way for us trying to identify on who we are as people when we are growing up .

 

We are broght up buy our prents and on how they excpt people and we do the same thing when we bercome young adults. Yes it is hard to go to school when u are gay bening picked on and allthe other stuff like that but i think evry one has bening picked on in there childhood.

 

You just got to be your self anf trust your self on the things what you do in life and yes telling your mum or dad they might be up set at first with the life choice you have made butt deep down they still love you for you and not your sexualpreffince.

 

We are all the same no matter whay we do .

 

 
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February 8, 2007, 8:52 pm PST

same topic

 

So what is someone is gay.   I am not,  but my best friend is.  He is my ex HR Manager and I love him to death.   We all got laid off from our company,  but we still talk atleast 2 times a week. 

 

If people do not like gay people,   that's their own ignorance because they are just like everyone else.   They just have a different preference.   SO WHAT.    I am soooo glad that the gay community is coming out and speaking out.    I have nothing but praise for the gay community.

 

I would never offend anyone due to their own preference.   WHO am I to judge anyone?    I'm not here to judge people,  I'm hear to listen and keep an open mind to each and every individual.

Period!

 
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February 18, 2007, 11:28 am PST

ask ur friend to pray for me

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So what is someone is gay.   I am not,  but my best friend is.  He is my ex HR Manager and I love him to death.   We all got laid off from our company,  but we still talk atleast 2 times a week. 

 

If people do not like gay people,   that's their own ignorance because they are just like everyone else.   They just have a different preference.   SO WHAT.    I am soooo glad that the gay community is coming out and speaking out.    I have nothing but praise for the gay community.

 

I would never offend anyone due to their own preference.   WHO am I to judge anyone?    I'm not here to judge people,  I'm hear to listen and keep an open mind to each and every individual.

Period!

hey,

imagine that i struggle for almost 22 years liein to every one i kno coz i,m a gay i kno its not a problem at bein a gay but  can possibly say that  no body may be few ppl ya one of them.

 

havein a refrence of gay doesnt mean we are bad ppl we got nothing to do with this i wish if i could change my refrence to live happily like every body.

 

just now i contact dr phil and i asked him to help me find out solution for the problems that i been carrin sinse i was 8 years old

 

thanks a lot for ur letter it really makes me feel good

ask ur friend to pray for me coz i cant live with a gay refrence with my ignorant ppl and he can

wishin ya,ll the best

 
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February 25, 2007, 12:26 am PST

Don't Judge A Book By Its Cover

I am in a wheelchair and I have cerebral palsy. Most people judge me before they get to know me. I always knew I was a lesbian but was afraid to face it. A year ago, I came out of the closet. I feel better about not have to be someone I'm not.

 
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March 2, 2007, 4:08 pm PST

Question about married man and pictures of naked men

OK, I do know in advance that to at least some of you this might sound (a) stupid and/or (b) like I'm actually asking about myself (but I'm really not). But I'm posting this anyway because I want to know what all of you think about this. Putting this as nicely and as briefly as I can - suppose a man is married and does have sex with his wife of many years but he also secretly masturbates to online softcore porn. His porn consists mainly of pictures of naked men alone, some who are shown erect and masturbating, but no hardcore gay porn. I believe that (1) straight men have no sexual interest in looking at pictures of naked men, (2) straight men are not capable of having erections and orgasms looking at pictures of naked men, and (3) a man who has sex with his wife and masturbates to pictures of naked men is bisexual. So what do all of you think about this situation?
 
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March 2, 2007, 8:31 pm PST

Homosexuality

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OK, I do know in advance that to at least some of you this might sound (a) stupid and/or (b) like I'm actually asking about myself (but I'm really not). But I'm posting this anyway because I want to know what all of you think about this. Putting this as nicely and as briefly as I can - suppose a man is married and does have sex with his wife of many years but he also secretly masturbates to online softcore porn. His porn consists mainly of pictures of naked men alone, some who are shown erect and masturbating, but no hardcore gay porn. I believe that (1) straight men have no sexual interest in looking at pictures of naked men, (2) straight men are not capable of having erections and orgasms looking at pictures of naked men, and (3) a man who has sex with his wife and masturbates to pictures of naked men is bisexual. So what do all of you think about this situation?
He's probably somewhat bisexual. Sexuality isn't just one of three choices...it's not just straight-bi-gay...there are many variations. And even each person can vary on their tastes in their lives.

Is this woman aware that her husband enjoys soft gay porn?  If she is aware and she's ok with it I don't see the harm. (I just read it again and see you said "secretly"....hmm...) Would the idea of porn bother this woman? I don't care if my husband looks at porn occasionally and I he doesn't care if I look at it occasionally. For some though that is a deal breaker..and that is ok. I mean...each relationship is different. For us porn is ok (long as it is never out of control or addictive or takes priority over anything else.) For others it is not ok. So that is one thing to consider. Think of it like this, what if it was girl only porn...what would that mean?

I'm bisexual. I am married, I am monogamous. But I am bisexual. I am sexually attracted to men and women. My taste goes up and down...right now I would say that 90% of my attraction is for men. A few years ago I would have said the opposite...(This does not mean I cheat though! LOL....this simply means that I might see an attractive person and have a natural biological reaction of finding them attractive.)

There are men who prefer to have sex with women but do enjoy erotic pictures of men. As a matter of fact on another message board I read, there was a post VERY similar to this made by a guy. He likes to view gay porn occasionally, but has no desire to have sex with a man. He considers himself straight. But really these are just labels. Not everyone fits perfectly under each one.

I think human beings have a hard time accepting gradients...humans see sexuality like this:

Gay, bisexual and Straight (Some people even reject bisexuality...)














When in reality, from what I can see sexuality is probably a lot more like this:

A gradient where each person is probably pretty unique.














Anyway...thanks for indulging in my long self important post...LOL I think human sexuality is really amazing and interesting.
 
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March 3, 2007, 10:08 pm PST

This is from a prior post of mine

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You have too much time on your hands, get to church, get involved, all you people think to much of sex, clear your mind.

I find it disturbing when someone tries to enforce God's will as a human...who are you as a human to dictate what God intends?  In my opinion love is love no matter who it is that you love. I have no issue with the gay community. God supposedly created us all out of his/her/it's own image. God is supposed to love all yet we, as human beings, continue to strive to berate, tear down, and mutilate the self-esteem and worth of other people. How Christian of you. 

  

I get tired of hearing that homosexuals need to be reprogrammed. They deserve the right to marry and to have children. The problem with homosexuals having children, is simply that society deems it as inappropriate because of some human's interpretation of God's word. There was a time folks when we thought we had the right to infringe upon the rights of African Americans. We thought we had the right not only to force our own religion upon them, but to shackle them up in chains, whipping and beating their dignity out of them. Oh but wait, that's what God wanted isn't it? How Christian of us. 

  

The worst atrocoties have occured in the name of GOD. Honestly, I don't claim to know what God wants or doesn't want because I am not an all knowing entity. I don't claim to know what normalcy is either, but somehow, in my own heart I don't believe that God would've wanted his/her/it's word to be manipulated and abused in so terrible a manner. 

  

Women weren't able to vote, we had no voice, hell we were burned at the stake. How Christian is that? 

  

Yes...how sad it all is that people just want to love one another and extend that love to a child...what a tragedy! A child growing up in a household with two men or two women, are not going to be gay as a result. Homosexuality and heterosexuality are innate. That is my belief. It's the rest of the people who are afraid of what they don't know or understand that is the problem. 

  

Let's strip people of their rights, their dignity, and their self-worth...I mean why not? We've done it for centuries. 

 
Apparently it is you that has too much time on your hands to interpret the bible as a human and claim to know God's word, demeaning and degrading other human beings...how Christian of you. It's people like you that create many of the problems that this world possesses...thinking that you have the right to lay down God's law.


 
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March 8, 2007, 2:53 am PST

Homosexuality

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hey,

imagine that i struggle for almost 22 years liein to every one i kno coz i,m a gay i kno its not a problem at bein a gay but  can possibly say that  no body may be few ppl ya one of them.

 

havein a refrence of gay doesnt mean we are bad ppl we got nothing to do with this i wish if i could change my refrence to live happily like every body.

 

just now i contact dr phil and i asked him to help me find out solution for the problems that i been carrin sinse i was 8 years old

 

thanks a lot for ur letter it really makes me feel good

ask ur friend to pray for me coz i cant live with a gay refrence with my ignorant ppl and he can

wishin ya,ll the best

Bieng Gay is not a problem is who u are and people have to accept u the way u are. I have nothing against gay or lesbian people they are humans like us they live they way we llive , the only differnce is that they are attracted to the opposite sex that is nothing wrong and most important thing is : there is  nothing to be embrassed of or shy about. Most people are afraid to come out and tell people that they are gay or lesbian b'coz they are scared what others' say and that is not the point the point is that u should be happy with who u are no matter what others say about u.I also have gay and lesbian friends i was involved with a lesbian and the tell u they are wonderful people share to th ings with them ,they are so caring,and friendly and many more i could on and on for the whole day.
 
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March 8, 2007, 2:59 am PST

Homosexuality

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I am in a wheelchair and I have cerebral palsy. Most people judge me before they get to know me. I always knew I was a lesbian but was afraid to face it. A year ago, I came out of the closet. I feel better about not have to be someone I'm not.

That is a good thing for u, u are an example to other lesbians who are afraid to come out. The way u are so brave i think u should start ur your own lesbian pride to free others that are afraid of telling people about their sexuality. Again good for u, u deserve all the glory im sure some the lesbianas are so proud of u.
 

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