Topic : Homosexuality

All I have to say is that I don't think being your true self is wrong in the eyes of any God. Don't lie to yourself and don't lie to your husband and don't lie to your kids.

Like I said, I'm not Christian, but I don't believe God promotes the hatred of someone just because they are gay, and I don't think being gay is a choice. You can't just switch on and off your sexual preference. I didn't chose to be straight, I was born that way, I've always been straight, I've never considered not being straight because I know that's not me. I believe it's the same for homosexuals. It's sexual orientation. If straights are born that way, then why would it be any different for gays?

I can see though, how this would be hard for you. If you feel like you married him only because you were pregnant, then I think you married him for the wrong reason. You married him because of the baby, not out of love. My sister got pregnant before she was married, and the man who impregnated her asked her if she wanted to get married because of it, and she refused, because she knew she wouldn't be marrying him for love.

How old are your children? You said they are teenagers, are they closer to legal adult age? Or are they closer to the 13-16 sort of age? If you do split with your husband, you children should be old enough to understand what divorce is and they would be able to chose who they wanted to live with if you had joint custody.

Hello there, Was reading your post and thought i'd reply because, whilst im not going through the same thing 'right now', hopefully i will be soon, i.e in the next couple of yrs in terms of wanting a baby with my partner.

Let me first say that her parents are fantastic, and love me and i love them. They know we are together, but they dont talk about it and its never been discussed or mentioned.  Her gran who she is very close with doesnt know and as you said, soon will be the time to start thinking/planning/acting on the wants of starting a family and its going to be tough!

I'm hoping though when the time comes that a sense of 'maturity' on my part (cause im not quite there yet hehe) will kick in for both myself and my partner and it will no longer be about what we hope our families will think but whats right for the baby. (thats probably universal - gay straight bisexual etc). Hopefully they'll accept it but if they don't, well i'm going to have to think about whats best for our child. It would be nice that they could embrace the baby as both of ours, and whilst her parents might, its going to be an uphill struggle maybe with extended family.

I know myself i will never pretend to be anything less than the babys mother also, and will not act any differently for xmas, vacations etc. Hopefully with most things, time will be the most important factor, and even if they disown your girlfriend (hopefully not for long), the most important thing is you and her loving each other and your child and if you have the love of extended family, well that is definitely a bonus!

How long have you guys been together?

Just some thoughts, sorry a bit waffly really!

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Let me start by saying that I am a straight man.  That said, your post is simply ignorant.  Being gay is NOT a decision.  My brother-in-law is the best example of this.  Growing up, he saw his male friends being interested in girls.  He figured this was what he was supposed to do as well, so he tried.  He dated a couple girls, but just didn't feel right doing it.  He found he was much more attracted to his male friends.  Being from a small town, he didn't really have anyone to talk to about how he felt.  He got to a point where he believed there was something seriously wrong with him.  This led to depression, and eventually a suicide attempt.  Luckily it failed.  But my point is,  does that sound like a choice?  Obviously not.   No one would choose to live that way. 

As far as you mentioning God and the Bible, ponder this;  I don't have my Bible right next to me either, but I can tell you that in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, it states that drunkards and the sexually immoral with never see the kingdom of God.  With that in mind, let's look at the story of Lot.  God was going to destroy his city, but warned him to get his family out.  God felt Lot was the only one worth saving in a sinful city, with men who had sex with other men.  After Lot's wife looked back and was turned into salt, Lot and his two daughters took refuge in a cave of some sort.  We are told that two nights in a row, Lot got drunk on wine and had sex with his daughters!  God thought he was worth saving?  Yet the Bible says drunkards and the sexually immoral will never get into Heaven.  Lot got drunk and had sex with his daughters.  Sounds like he's both of those things to me.  Yet you say God would never make someone who would go against His word.  Didn't Lot go against His word?  It's clear he did.  Yet God not only made him, he spared him.  I hate to sound mean, but really think before you post.

Givin the two situations here, I have three boys.  If I had to choose between them being gay or sleeping with their own daughters, I don't think I have to state which I would opt for.

I agree with you sir, on your post. Being gay is not a choice. If being straight isn't a choice, then why would being gay be a choice?

I feel for your brother-in-law. That's so sad that he would feel so out-of-place and like he was supposed to be something he's not that he would try to kill himself. I would much rather hear him say "I'm gay, and I'm not going to try to make myself be something I'm not," then try to take his own life.

I know the bible also says "Come as you are before God, he loves his children all the same."

What I think is interesting is the different views that some Christians have from other religions and countries on homosexuality. The Christian Europeans believed that homosexuality is sin and that it's a hell-worthy slight against god, while the Japanese believed it was a rare and beautiful thing, and even exaulted it and those who were. Being gay was a respected thing to the Japanese.

These are two conflicting views of people in different countries. You can't tell me that since being gay is a sin, every man, woman, or child that ever bowed in respect to a gay person is burning forever in a place of pain and torment. I'm sorry, but that's just bigotry.

To avoid "hate" responses, which I might get anyway, what about the child?  I have nothing against gay and lesbian couples.  I feel if you find someone you love and want to spend the rest of your life with, wonderful!  Same sex, opposite sex, doesn't matter. But doesn't a child need a father and mother?  I can see some benefits to a same sex couple raising a child.  For instance, they would be raised with less prejudice.  I believe that.  I think that's a good thing.  But professionals state that children have a much better life when they have both a mother and a father in their life.  When same sex couples want children, are they thinking about the child or their own desires?  Do they think about what the child will go through?

 Like I said, I have no problem with gay couples.  But when kids find out this kid has gay parents, what will this child go through?  We all know how mean kids can be.  Is it worth putting a child through that to satisfy their own needs?  I want to make it clear I have NOTHING against gays and lesbians.  But growing up is hard enough.  Do you really want to put that extra trouble on a child?

Isn't it aweful? Especially about the people who protested Heath Ledger's funeral. They wrote hate speech on the walls of the funeral home. Luckily, the ones who did it have been arrested for hate crimes.

I don't believe it is sin because different religions and ways of life have different opinions on it. Like the people of Japan. Their code of Bushido believes that homosexuality is a rare and special thing and should be honored in the highest and respected. Buddhism also teaches love no matter what gender, race, or sexual orientation. Hinduism doesn't even mention homosexuality. It's teachings don't outline people according to sexual orientation, and it's teachings about morality don't say anything about homosexuality.

There are thousands of religions throughout the world, I believe it would be a bit self-riteous to claim that one is right over all others on a specific subject, like homosexuality, or in general.

(I wish I could edit my posts...)

I forgot to say thank you for being respectful of my opinion while still upholding your own.