Topic : 11/20 The Dr. Phil House: Heroin Twins, The Intervention

 I have a great deal of admiration for people recovering from drugs.  People do drugs because at first it feels good.  It must be hard to stop doing something that feels good no matter why you started it.

I wish you all the happiness in the world in your courageous recovery.

I felt the same way you did until I found out my brother was a Heroin addict.  He kept this secret from his entire family.  Just for the record - we were the story book family.  He was 34 and died of an overdose this past February.  He has devastated my entire family and we will never be the same again.  Unless you have experienced this first hand you have no clue what you are saying and that is why you must be forgiven for your ignorance. 

It is so sad.. our family went through this with my sister, it tears your heart out to tell them no when they are calling crying needing money telling you they are starving they have no food no place to live so you send them money and they use it on drugs, it took my sister almost losing her life before she stopped. but she is clean from crack now for almost 10 years, has a job and two beautiful kids so it can happen if you really want it. I am very proud of who she is now... and i love her for being strong

i see alto of people mad as hell over the nurse? well how can you be 100% sure shes really a recovering addict and a nurse  lol, ever think she may just be undercover as a nurse going in to a hood collecting evidence would make scense to me,after all dr phil is no ones fool and would never be apart of something aganst the laws,

I too am the mother of twin 22 year old girls as well  a single (boy) 3 1/2 years younger.  I wasn't a single mom but a military wife and mom and seperated from their father more than I care to say.  I believe we owe to our children to have an open verbal relationship to avoid what these poor girls have gone through.  I honestly don't know how a mother can say they had no idea.  Even if you had the inclination of pot smoking or drinking something should of been said or done at that point to avoid what it has escalated too.  I feel totally blessed that my girls are well adjusted as well as their brother, but believe me I did my job (as well as their father) to assure that that would be the outcome. Parenting isn't easy but we owe it to our children to do what we have to when they don't know otherwise.  Dr. Phil,  I know you can give these girls help, but we all know that they can only be helped if they want it.  Good luck.

It broke my heart to see what they are going thru and what mom is feeling.  I am a mother of a crack addicted adult child and a heroin addicted adult child.  I see my son (crack addiction) fight everday to stay sober.  He has admitted himself to hospitals, detox centers, etc.  I know what it is like to see your child in a condition that you can't imagine. I know the fear when they disappear.  I know they have to be sick and tired of being sick and tired!  As a parent, it is so hard.  There is a fine line of helping and enabling.  I had to learn that.  I do not wish this fight on anyone.  My son has come a long way however he is struggling with paychecks and making thru the payday.  This is awful because he was doing well.  Has been getting his life back.  I wish there was a Dr. Phil for him as I know all us parents do.  I commend Dr. Phil for his compassion and desire to help people and pray for more folks like him.  It does seem pathetic that the government cannot do something about this horrible horrible situation.  I was shocked to find all the folks who have addiction in their family.  It is frightening.  Those who "think" they are not affected by this.......Don't Fool Yourself...... Unfortunately, someone close to you (whether family, friend or co-worker or neighbor) may very well have an addiction.

Is anything being done to protect that fetus? I think that the fetus should be the number one priority of the Dr. Phil house! When adults are failures with their own lives it becomes the responsibility of society to protect the children of the lost souls that are caught up in an active addiction. The pregnant twin should be locked down in a strict rehab center to ensure that the fetus is given the fair chance at the healthy life that it deserves. After the birht of this baby it should be removed from her care, in my opinion as I know what effects an addicts best intentions have on children. Addicts need some lengthy clean time and hard work put into their recovery before we can be beneficial to a child and meet that child's needs. Looking at the lives theese twins were living, I feel that they have no business being in control of their own lives any longer than they all ready have been, let alone an innocent child's life. I feel that it isn't even fair to chance the mothers capabilities as a parent as the lifestyle of the twins is fatal for themselves and not even near acceptable for a child to be subjected to. The pregnant twins chane at being a parent should not be put above the child's chance of a safe, secure future, filled with tons of love, fun, learning and growing,never forgetting guidance!

After watching just half of this show I feel so compelled to writing in.  The mother cannot say that for the last 10 years she did not have any idea of what the extent of what her daughters addictions are.  Coming from an Heroin addicted mother, I know first hand what it is like to be around an addict and there is no way you could not see what they are going through.  I am not implying in anyway that the mother is at fault, only that the signs of the extent of the abuse is slapping her in the face every time she takes a look at her girls.  The other thing that I found disturbing is that Joanie is actually filming Sarah and her addiction.  Herself being an addict I do not think that is an appropriate way to lend a  hand to a person who is using.  What??? Was she planning on filming her why she overdoses or kills herself??  With her education and knowledge of addiction she needed to give these girls some extreme demands for recovery or do anything that was possible to get them help.  These girls finding themselves into the house after months of filming her is quite frankly irresponsible as someone who works as a medical professional.  I hope that these two girls get the help they need.  I desperately feel what it is like to love someone like that and the helplessness that goes with the addiction.  It breaks my heart to see them and the pain they are doing to themselves..I hope they get the medical attention they so desperately need.  Are their any family members of these girls around?? I would love to get the point of view from the mother's family as to why no interventions have been done before 10 years.

I felt compelled to register just to post this  msg.  This show was indeed hard to watch, but it is reality.. growing in society and becoming more ever-present.  This is to all those whom claim "they brought it onto themselves" and "They don't deserve help, and are wastes of lives".  I'm only 23, and feel more mature and educated than some of you.  How dare you make such claims, when you don't know everything about their lives, or experiences.

  The part of the brain which demands you to get and consume drugs is not the same part of the brain in charge of logic.  It's like you're a zombie to the addiction.  You've got a demand.. and blindly look to meet it.  Something like troops following Bush's orders, whether they agree or not.  There is a part of you which fights this.. and recognizes the wrong or right in your actions, but the fight is far harder than you'd ever imagine, and when you're in withdrawal.. it is human nature to move AWAY from pain, and towards pleasure. 

 

Nobody deserves anything addiction creates.  Nobody looks to become a drug addicted prostitute.  Nobody is ever proud of having scars on their face, limbs or heart.  You've obviously been fortunate enough to not experience such a thing.  But I guarantee, one of you.. at least.. will come in contact, or will find a loved one addicted to something one day.. and you will then realize its not as simple as "just dont do it", and I guarantee your horrible, insensitive judgment will change almost immediately. 

Shame on your condescending selves...  How can you decide who deserves help and who doesn't?  Addiction is very seductive... nobody thinks they are going to become a "junkie"  nobody sets out to do so.  Suburban moms can just want to be able to keep up with their kids and house work and take the first speed pill.  "It can't happen to me" becomes a denial.. and before you blink, you're hopelessly addicted and in a fight for your life. 

I know... because I am an addict... a heroin addict in fact. Actively using or in recovery.. an addict is an addict for life.  But I work, pay taxes, volunteer, and do many things you do.  Addict should not be my title.. and let me tell all of you.. because I am an addict, I am no less than any of you. 

 

No wonder we live in a world with such problems.  People whom don't understand or aren't educated in a subject think they can make such judgment or claims.  No matter who anyone is or does... as a human race, we should never deny help.  I thought that was what you Americans pride yourselves on.  Looks like you have some rotten apples in the bunch.

This nurse Joanie has been on the show before.  Last year sometime.  She was addicted to pills of some sort and I think using while at work where the pills were accessible.  Some other member of her family or significant other was on the show.  Then there was a follow-up to her recovery.