Topic : 03/30 Nightmare Brides and Grooms

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Created on : Friday, November 17, 2006, 12:52:01 pm
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(Original Air Date: 11/21/06) Contemporary weddings have turned into five-star productions, with couples pulling out all the stops to shine on their special day. But what happens when the bride- or groom-to-be starts making diva-like demands? Mike and Jamie agreed to a small Vegas wedding, but that went out the window when Jamie switched her gown three times, rented a limo to drive her one block and upgraded her engagement ring. Mike says that Jamie also made him un-invite all of his friends and cancel his bachelor party! Are Jamie’s antics a hint of what’s to come in their marriage? Then, Nastassia complains that her husband-to-be, Richard, is cheap. She says he wants her to buy bridal flowers from the grocery store, have her mom sew her gown and even schedule the wedding before year's end so he can get a tax write-off! Will Richard’s tightwad ways force Nastassia to call off the wedding?  Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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November 21, 2006, 3:31 pm PST

11/21 Nightmare Brides and Grooms

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It's not your "me day" it's your life.

 

Just hope you had marriage counselling.  Seems you have done everything else but.

 

Get the clue from the show - it's not about the wedding.

 

Since you are so into teamwork - is the family going to work as hard as you on this marriage?

 

Seems you are like a Lucy Lawless (Zeneth Warrior) when it comes to you future husband.  Protector and decision maker.  How's that going to work?

 

Am surprised about your comment on Nastasia and Richard.  You know she cannot marry this man.

 Actually, yes, we're undergoing couples pre-marital counseling now. As you commented, I am like a princess warrior when it comes to being proactive.

The whole point of my post is me put the ceremony in perspective, amid many commonly heard stories of brides who let the wedding planning overwhelm what should be more important priorities, like their marriages-to-be.

Please read remarks more carefully before you responsd to them.
 
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November 21, 2006, 3:31 pm PST

It Is A Duck

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If it talks like a duck and acts like a duck?
A very possesive, controlling Duck.
 
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November 21, 2006, 3:31 pm PST

FULLY AGREE WITH YOUR OPINION

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I hate to say this but there is potential for physical and verbal abuse in the relationship. Natassia will be the victem.
 I foresee the same for Natassia and their children!  Hope she'll change her mind asap...
 
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November 21, 2006, 3:33 pm PST

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You're going to judge based on a facial expression?  What good is that to anyone? Neither of them has been married so yes, they are Both babies in this. Why not offer something encouraging rather than show us how bitter you are.

Are you Richard?  Because you sure are getting defensive on these message boards and the more of your messages I read, the more I suspect you are Richard. 

 

You're right - people don't have the right to judge you based on a 30 minute segment on a tv show.  They do however, have the right to their opinion.  If  Richard plans to have a happy life with Nastassia, he needs to lighten up and chill out a little.  My wedding was only about $4,000 and we had a wonderful day.  My husband and I agree that, next to the birth of our kids, that was the best day of our lives.  You know how much we fought about the planning?  Absolutely none!  Are we rich?  Not by any means, but we found a way to make it work.  What should have been done in the beginning is sitting down, making a budget and coming up with practical decisions.  Thinking that her mother is going to make food for all the guests is absurd.  We didn't have a big sit down dinner.  Instead we had finger foods and of course, a cake.  We had our wedding at a chapel where they did everything including flowers, food, music, etc.  Also, a couple needs a honeymoon.  After such a stressful time (planning a wedding, having it, etc.) you need a little getaway.  Maybe DR is too expensive for your budget, but something else might be better.  It's all about comprimise.

 

What is concerning more than anything is the controlling behavior and distrust Richard has for his fiance.  I know that Richard recognizes his control issues, but Richard is trying to defend his actions rather than just accept the counseling.  Everyone can be a better person and all counseling will do is make you both better people.  I'm no Dr. Phil, but I'd say that counseling should continue even after they get married.  Marriage is all about comprimise, understanding, trust, etc.  Once you throw kids in to the mix, it gets even tougher. You have to trust your mate to do the right thing and if you can't do that, you shouldn't be getting married.  Richard, you should trust Nastassia to send emails without having to go behind her and read all of them.  Even though my emails are completely innocent, I still don't like for my husband to go behind me and read all of my private thoughts to my girlfriends.  A couple has to have certain things in their relationship that are for themselves.  Otherwise, you have no separate time and you'll drive each other insane.  If I want my husband to know what I'm talking about with my friends, I tell him which I normally do, but he's not to go in to my inbox and read about something I consider my private thoughts.  Listen, if someone is going to cheat in the relationship (not saying that's what you are concerned about, but this is just for instance) it's going to happen no matter how much of a "leash" you put on them. 

 

Lastly, I can understand why Richard would feel upset and angry after the show, but you have to step back and wonder for the reason that the show was mainly about you.  Because maybe you are the one with most of the problems.  I'm not attacking you, but simply stating that you should take Dr. Phil's advice when he says you guys need help.  You should take the help he is offering.  Even for a healthy couple, counseling is a good thing.  If you and your fiance are going to make it through a life long marriage, you are definitely going to have to change your ways.  And, Nastassia is going to have to stand up for herself.  Bowing down to all of Richard's demands is just going to make Richard resent you in the end anyway, so instead of barking orders at each other, you should comprimise.  There is no room for selfishness in a relationship.  I am not a psychiatrist, but I have been married for almost 10 years so I would say that I have a pretty good relationship with my husband.  Good years and bad years and the reason we made it through the bad years is because we learned to comprimise and care about each other's feelings.  It is very difficult to do sometimes but that's the only way you will stay married for life.

 

Good luck to you both!

 
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November 21, 2006, 3:35 pm PST

Red Flag Flying

Having that serious talk about starting a union can bring out the real deal sometimes. I was asked to move across the country to reunite with a man that I have known for a very long time. I was truely hurt when he wanted another woman in the relationship, even though he said they were only friends. He didn't want me to bring my possessions, only what would fit in my car, because he didn't have room in his 3 bedroom house. He wanted me to work, even though he is retired. And he was worried about what I would cost him, even though he won the lottery. I am glad his control issues came out. Wow, I saw the light before it was too late!
 
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November 21, 2006, 3:42 pm PST

Abuse

Quote From: lrrp75

I hate to say this but there is potential for physical and verbal abuse in the relationship. Natassia will be the victem.
Why would you hate to say something that will definitely occur.
 
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November 21, 2006, 3:43 pm PST

Natassia

I am very concerned about Natassia.  Natassia, like Dr. Phil says--the best indicator of future behavior is past behavior.  If Richard is this controling and bullying now, it will not improve and may only get worse with marraige.  Bullyiing and threatening someone into letting them read mail and e-mails is a scary development--this situation can actually escalate into abuse.  And then to say he has no respect for her because she backs down and won't stick up for herself?!!  Natassia, don't you see he is setting you up for failure no matter what you do?  If you don't do things his way, he will not marry you.  If you don't fight and stick up for yourself, he doen't respect you because you are a pushover.  He is slowly chipping away your self confidence and and self esteem.  You are a beautiful young woman with alot to offer.  Please look out for youself.  Dr. Phil generously offered counseling before you marry---please please please you guys --take him up on it. 
 
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November 21, 2006, 3:44 pm PST

LOL

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A very possesive, controlling Duck.
Who are you, Clark?
 
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November 21, 2006, 3:46 pm PST

GREAT ADVICE!

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In my humble opinion, Nastassia should RUN, not walk, in the other direction from Richard!  The man does have issues, big time!  It WILL only get worse, especially if they have children.  Believe me, I've been married to a Richard clone for a number of years.  He will continue to take advantage of Nastassia's good nature, always!  Eventually, it will wear her down.  His being 'contrary' and 'controlling' at every turn does not make for a good marriage.  RUN Nastassia, RUN!
Hope Natassia reads these msgs, takes action accordingly & immediately!

All too sadly, countless women can relate to your brief msg.

- the wonderful parts of life speed by
- the difficulties feel like they last alot longer...
- the abuses might stop
- but the damages remain for the rest of our lives
  (despite efforts to forget & move on)
 
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November 21, 2006, 3:47 pm PST

nastassia

RICHARD, YOU ARE AN EMBARASSMENT TO YOUR/MY ENTIRE GENDER.

 NASTASSIA, YOU SHOULD RUN. THER ARE SO MANY GUYS THAT WOULD TREAT YOU WITH A LOT MORE RESPECT THAN RICHARD DOES NOW, OR EVER WILL. SOMEONE WITH HIS VIEWS TOWARDS YOU AND MOST LIKELY ALL WOMEN IS THE MAIN REASON BEHIND THE MAJORITY OF THE MALE BASHING THAT IS SO COMMON NOW. NOT ALL OF US ARE AS DUMB AS RICHARD IS.

 

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