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Topic : 03/30 Nightmare Brides and Grooms

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(Original Air Date: 11/21/06) Contemporary weddings have turned into five-star productions, with couples pulling out all the stops to shine on their special day. But what happens when the bride- or groom-to-be starts making diva-like demands? Mike and Jamie agreed to a small Vegas wedding, but that went out the window when Jamie switched her gown three times, rented a limo to drive her one block and upgraded her engagement ring. Mike says that Jamie also made him un-invite all of his friends and cancel his bachelor party! Are Jamie’s antics a hint of what’s to come in their marriage? Then, Nastassia complains that her husband-to-be, Richard, is cheap. She says he wants her to buy bridal flowers from the grocery store, have her mom sew her gown and even schedule the wedding before year's end so he can get a tax write-off! Will Richard’s tightwad ways force Nastassia to call off the wedding?  Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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November 21, 2006, 5:07 pm PST

I Agree

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I don't understand why Dr. Phil would want to fix the last couples relationship.  They are not married and so far have proven to each other that they don't have their spouse's well being in mind.  What Dr. Phil should say to this couple for them to go their seperate ways and find someone better suited to their personalities.
 
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November 21, 2006, 5:09 pm PST

Doctor Phil Show.

And Brides Doctor Grooms Mare Night Phil. That is why that I am not getting marry afterall. I ho-

pe that Erica and Jay McGraws are happy together. See you tomorrow Afternoon. Day Happy----

Thanksgiving. Sincerley Your. Russell

 
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November 21, 2006, 5:13 pm PST

Natassia Run!

 You are a beautiful woman and Richard treats you like dirt. I was married to a man just like Richard, self centered and controlling. He thought none of what I wanted mattered. It ended up with physical abuse after we got married. These kind of men are dangerous. They think they can do no wrong and that their good looks will allow them to act any way they want. I was in this abusive marriage for 6 years before I had the guts to get out. You deserve so much better and his verbal abuse is beating you down and making you think his abuse is what you deserve. I too think you look like Angelina Jolie and you are way to good for him. Go and find a man who will appreciate you for you and put your wants and needs ahead of his own. I have been happily married for over 12 years now in a 2nd marriage with a man that treats me with respect and kindness on a daily basis. We have a joyful life so I know it does exist and you can find that too.  I have never written in before but feel so strongly about this, it gave me chills! I went online and registered just so I could try and help you from making a huge mistake and ruining your young life. He is not worth it. He was smirking the whole time, it made me sick.
 
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November 21, 2006, 5:15 pm PST

Talk to me in 10 years

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Wow...Where do I start with this story. I've been watching the Dr.Phil show since it started, and I have to say that today was the only time I was shocked at his approach and opinion on the matter. I completely agree that the couple should get counseling to help them with communication and monetary discussions, but why did it feel like there was a byist opinion? I just recently got married about 6 months ago, and I can say that planning a wedding is very stressful ( as many already know). My fiance (at the time) and I only had 2 weeks to get everything ready before we moved to Germany. I personally understand the pressures of having a big elaborate wedding, but because of time complications we decided on a smaller one. My parents paid for the wedding, but everything was very cheap. I was appalled at the way the audience laughed at the soon-to-be groom about his opinions, because I myself had flowers...bought at the grocery store...pictures....done by a family member...food....made from Wal-Mart...music....played from an I-Pod and speakers.... My mother and I even made all the decorations ourselves and printed our invitaions off at the local UPS store. After all that we had a beautiful wedding at our church with 110 guests. I could go on with all the discounted neccesities we recieved for our big day, but my point in writing this was to let people know that a wedding is not about how much you spend on a dress or how big and elaborate the place is...but it's the person you are marrying and the life you will have together. I understand that the wedding specifications meant a lot to the bride-to-be, but the financial aspect meant a lot to the groom as well. Why don't they set a budget on how much they can spend, or better yet compromise on what they will purchase. This seems to me like they should have conversed about their diffences before they decided to plan a wedding. I wish them the best, and I hope that they can overcome this problem.
 
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November 21, 2006, 5:17 pm PST

These couples are 'missing the point'...

Dear Dr. Phil:  I couldn't believe the selfishness and sadness in what I was hearing today.  The 'clear' answer, in my opinion, is neither of these couples should be married.  And 'what you've been through in life shouldn't make you 'more guarded and selfish'...it should bring out more love and appreciation.  (I have suffered many abuses and tragedies - but they have only made me cling to my 'partner' more...not put up walls and try to control them.)

 

My husband and I got married almost 16 years ago, and at the time - money was very tight.  I may not have received the 'dream wedding' every little girl dreams of having - but that wasn't what mattered.  What mattered is that I had found a man who treated me like a queen because he loved me so much.  And when you find 'true, and lasting love'...you return it - eagerly! - without any selfishness or 'conditions'.  We ended up buying all of our own stuff, and not very much of it either.  We didn't get the 'reception', dances, or anything like that...but it was 'our' wedding, and it was the most beautiful wedding to us.  And after these past 16 years...we are more in love today than we were on that wedding day.  To further that - the love only grows stronger as each day comes. 

 

This is what I didn't 'see' among these couples.  When you are 'so in love' that you want to spend the rest of your life with someone...you stumble over yourself trying to 'do', and 'give', and 'please' the one you love.  It's not about 'yourself'.  So, I can't help but feel that these couples were not truly in love, and the best thing they could 'do' would be to move on.  Don't ever 'settle'...and 'know' that there IS someone out there who WILL treat you as you should be!

Thank You!

Cynthia

 
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November 21, 2006, 5:17 pm PST

what a racket!!!

in today's day & age i think this wedding stuff is blown up way beyond capacity!! marriage is not sacred when a person can get out of it in a week. For the first time in history , women have just as much money & power as men( and are completly competant to make there own choices) and don't have to answer to anyone. If wedding's weren't such big buisness, i'll bet they wouldn't even exist! ...... and if we are smart we won't encourage our daughter's to get wrapped up in the racket of wedding's. I think being a bride was a fairy-tale put in our head's when we were kid's, and women have this pre-concieved idea of what it should be .....and are heart broken with the result's. When we live in a day & age where the divorce rate is 80% am i wrong to think like this???      
 
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November 21, 2006, 5:18 pm PST

He is truly disturbed. DITTO!

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The woman did not display any feelings of love, joy or happiness. She appeared scared and unsure. Those are the feelings she should trust most, they scream RED FLAG! When she would slightly nod in agreeance with his comments, it wasn't very convincing. In fact, I believe she is trying to convince herself he isn't that bad. It gave me shivers down my spine. She is sympathetic towards her captor as with cases of Helsinky Syndrome. (SP?) He is controlling in telling ways that would eventually lead to verbal, mental, emotional and physical abuse. He absolutely has no empathy towards her feelings, it was apparent throughout the show, and in the end it was still all about him. I'm sure she got a good tongue lashing from him after the show too. My advice...Run girlfriend, run!!!! And get a restraining order because I don't think it would end there. He is truly disturbed.
Read messages and replies from his family & friends!  They all seem disturbed, the quantity of their messages, replies and the CONTENT are reasons for seriously considering the restraining order.

Good someone suggested it, now hope she reads and DOES it!

Poor poor Richard...sadly don't think Natassia's heard the end of it.

 
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November 21, 2006, 5:34 pm PST

This Is Nastassia

I never planed on posting any messages on this bored, but after reading over some of the messages I feel like I needed to clear a few things up.

First of all I was not thrilled about the idea of taking my personal life on a national TV show, and then I had to consider how it would affect the life of the man I want to spend the rest of my life with. I am surprised to see how many people have no problem putting their two cents where they're really not concerned. Don't get me wrong, I have seen some good objective advise, however few and far between. And we all know what they say about opinions.

I also know that you all may feel you have the right to judge and voice your views because after all I am the one who wrote to the show, but know this, I wrote the show for the opinion and help of a trained and experienced man. However, I am disturbed that you all as viewers only got to see a small part of the story. I am in love with this man, and I have read comments about his smirks, and controlling ways, but you also have to take into consideration that I am the one who knows him, and knows his sense of humor, how he handles himself in uncomfortable situations. I watched the show today, and I was there, and it's our life. We will make the decisions that we feel are right for us. Richard put himself on a stage, in front of all of America, and apologized to me. Who would do that for you? I respect him for that, and it needs to be acknowledged. Nobody, is perfect and what you all need to remember is that you don't know the things that I have done wrong in this relationship. I have read posts that said I pout, and I need to stand up for myself and so on. Know this...I am a strong and capable woman, capable of making my own choices and living with them, capable of choosing who I love and how I love him, and I have not always loved him the way I should. So this situation is not as one sided as you all may think from what you have seen on TV. Remember don't believe everything you hear, and only half of what you see.

I guess my point here is, just move on, don't waste your time on us anymore. We need to work on our relationship, and we always will, because when you stop working on a relationship it ends.

I will always do what I want to do, and it kinda hurts my feelings that anybody would think that I would let a man control me, it also hurts me to see the things that have been said about the man I love. I really could on and on and you would still not know enough about our life to come to conclusions. As for Israelmom, we love you and thank you so much for your support. I know how some people feed on the sorrows of others, I think it makes them feel better about their own life. But God knows my heart and our story, both sides. I don't know the future but I do know that everything will work out exactly how it is supposed to.

 

 

  I am my own woman and I am strong, and I will continue to make my own choices and I will have no regrets. You learn from your mistakes and you take that lesson with you through life. If you don't learn from your mistakes you make them over again until you do learn. But one thing never changes, you are the only one who lives with the decisions you make.

 

I love you Richard, and I am so proud of you for being the man you are. Love is unconditional, and knows no boundaries. Love is patient, and love is kind. Love endures.

 
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November 21, 2006, 5:37 pm PST

11/21 Nightmare Brides and Grooms

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...wasn't it Jamie who wanted to have butterflies sewn into her veil, btrflyck?

LOL  Good call.  People are so naive to think they can go on national television talk show and no one  will talk  about them. 

 

That's what message boards are all about, btrflyck.  We discuss the show and the people who volunteered, no, make that wrote in and begged to be on the show.  We aren't judging  anyone but we are stating our opinions.  If you are Jamie you seriously need to get over yourself.

 
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November 21, 2006, 5:40 pm PST

Down to earth wedding--gotta love it!

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I'm a little bit offended by this groom from hell story.  Why is it so terrible to try to have an affordable wedding?  My boquets were handpicked by ME the morning of the wedding, laid out around a trampoline, and my ladies made their own.  We had a potluck, everybody pitched in.  We found a place to have the reception that was free (through connections), and did our own decorations.  The most expensive thing in my wedding was my dress, which was under $100 and my wedding was absolutely a dream.  This was in 2003 and my friends and family are still talking about it.  What, was my wedding cheap and shotgun?  I know that most people in Northeast Michigan, and regions all over the country are feeling the same way.  People around here can't even conceive of spending the sort of money talked about on this show.  I really that sheltered?  I know for a fact that I am not a "hillbilly" and my wedding was NOT shotgun.

If it's not terrible for you, or your spouse, or even your friends and family, who cares? It certainly didn't seem terrible to me. Sounds like you had a very down-to-earth and  a very affordable wedding.

 

My hat's off to ya. Sound like a very creative and beautiful, hand-pick type of a wedding y'all had. Nice job.  Wow, wish I could have been there.  I'm not too far from you--just below the thumb!!

 

Continue to love each other and peace to ya'll 

 
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