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Topic : 03/30 Nightmare Brides and Grooms

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(Original Air Date: 11/21/06) Contemporary weddings have turned into five-star productions, with couples pulling out all the stops to shine on their special day. But what happens when the bride- or groom-to-be starts making diva-like demands? Mike and Jamie agreed to a small Vegas wedding, but that went out the window when Jamie switched her gown three times, rented a limo to drive her one block and upgraded her engagement ring. Mike says that Jamie also made him un-invite all of his friends and cancel his bachelor party! Are Jamie’s antics a hint of what’s to come in their marriage? Then, Nastassia complains that her husband-to-be, Richard, is cheap. She says he wants her to buy bridal flowers from the grocery store, have her mom sew her gown and even schedule the wedding before year's end so he can get a tax write-off! Will Richard’s tightwad ways force Nastassia to call off the wedding?  Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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March 30, 2007, 2:07 pm PDT

I married that guy

I'm going through a divorce after 10 years of marriage. My husband is sensible, reasonable, bright and strong. Selfish, always right, unmovable, unforgiving, and clueless.  My guess is Asperger Syndrome...I don't think that man can change because he doesn't know that there is anything wrong with him.
 
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March 30, 2007, 2:08 pm PDT

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When did everyone forget that money is a means not the answer? A more cost effective wedding means more honey moon adventure or more food in your fridge when you return from all that one day hype. I know its a womans one special day, but a budget that doesnt fall into insaine does not mean it will not be gorgeous! Its about the fun and comfort your guest have and feel, not about every stich. We paid under 1500 for our wedding and honeymoon. Budgets...remember those because after the honeymoon comes a baby, you'll learn budget for sure then wether you choose to or not!

I agree and I think that these days the focus is any where but where it's suppose to be when people get married.  I just seem to remember going to everyone we knew to do stuff with us like a girlfriend of mine worked out of her house as a florist & did my flowers for cost, another girlfriend had a BIL who was a photographer who gave us a huge discount and then our families all seemed to chip in for stuff for our wedding.  I was so pleased as punched to be marrying the man I was I couldn't have cared less if we had to just do a civil service thing.  We did want to share the day & so of course the white dress came with that & mother wanted so much for the limo & that's how it all started really.  But total I think limo & all included our wedding total was like $2500.  Hubby insisted that I not look at the cost of our honey moon & so I didn't  :)  but that was a seperate cost & considered the trip of a lifetime.  And again it wouldn't have mattered to me if we'd pitched a tent in the woods somewhere because I was just so excited to be starting a life with him.  I think that's what's missing for all these people today that most of these "brides" who want "their day" are just looking for this huge production where they're the center of attention.  My day was my day & I was so happy to share it with others but it wasn't because of a huge production it's because I was marrying this guy that I loved so much & who loved me in return.  The mere idea that we'd found each other was surreal enough to make the day dream like & we didn't need the special effects of all the glitter today.  Now it seems like people are trying to pay for *suff* to make the day special & I hate totell them but if it isn't special without all the stuff the stuff isn't going to change that.  I had to pinch myself the day after my wedding to make sure I hadn't been dreaming & it wasn't because I had a better cocktail hour than someone else.  LOL 

 

 

 
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March 30, 2007, 2:17 pm PDT

Unbelievable

It's about the marriage ladies-- not the wedding day.

 

I am so tired of hearing these stories about diva brides. You want to hear a true wedding story? My mother died of lung cancer suddenly and without warning 3 weeks before my wedding. I was her only daughter and we had planned the whole thing together. Then she was diagnosed with lung cancer 2 months before my wedding.  She had just finished 28 days of radiation when she died of a pulmonary hemorrhage at my brother's home one night.

 My wedding day was beautiful but I was sad the whole day because she was not there. Of course everyone told me "oh, honey, she was there in spirit." But that only made me more angry.

The day itself was beautiful. We had a few glitches, like the limo breaking down on the way to the reception- friends picked us up in their volkswagen on the way- now that was funny- but honestly- I had survived much worse in the prior 3 weeks having to bury my mother and deal with my grieving father and brothers.  The wedding was the best day I had had in months. And 10 years later, I still have fond memories of a great day during a horrible time.

 

Please focus on your relationship and don't sweat the small stuff. That's what my experience taught me.

 

 

 
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March 30, 2007, 2:31 pm PDT

This is Jamie from the show today

 

                            This is Jamie from the show that was showed today.  I just wanted to post something on here and give everyone an update. As you may know the show originally aired in November and I must admit when I read the message boards then I realized how things must have came across because of some of the things posted on here.  First Mike and I were getting married because we were at the time and still are very in love.  I will admit I got carried away in the planning and wanting everything so perfect. I knew I was marrying my prince and I really wanted everything to be beautiful. We never really sat down and negotiated the cost and Mike really did not like wedding planning so yes I took it upon my self and now realize that a lot of that stuff that was purchased was not needed.  As far as the bachelor party goes I did cancel that because I seen clips from the show they were going and maybe I am old fashioned but I really did not want my future husband around a lot of half naked women. This does not mean I do not trust him because I trust him with all my heart and I told him I felt uncomfortable if he went.  I did not care if they had a guys night and went out somewhere else.  I know how things may have came across but Mike and I really get along great and are bestfriends and lovers.  He is a good person and believe it or not I also put others before myself and maybe not at that time.  I think wedding planning is stressful and you can easily get caught up into "Making it your day" . We are doing great and our communication is better than ever and we make decisions "Together" instead of separate.  We are happy and enjoying our marriage.   I know some of you were probably wondering if the couples on the show have split up but I know we are going strong and I believe the other couple are doing great as well.

 
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March 30, 2007, 2:54 pm PDT

Our update

We are still happy together we have finished our counseling and I (Richard) have learned alot through this experience. We did the show 6 months ago and a day has not gone by that I have not continued working to make our relationship better. It is alot better now compared to then. I cant help how they portrayed me this mean, awful, controlling monster that is to cheap for my own good. We do have a wonderful time together I just needed a wake up call to reality that a relationship takes work alot of work. For every bad thing they portrayed theres many other things that I do right and with love. People please stop comparing me to your men in your life because I don't see them telling the world they were wrong and want the chance to make it right. I value our relationship and have made big strides in making us happy as a couple. A relationship takes work more work and then more work and I am working hard on my relationship are you?
 
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March 30, 2007, 3:34 pm PDT

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We are still happy together we have finished our counseling and I (Richard) have learned alot through this experience. We did the show 6 months ago and a day has not gone by that I have not continued working to make our relationship better. It is alot better now compared to then. I cant help how they portrayed me this mean, awful, controlling monster that is to cheap for my own good. We do have a wonderful time together I just needed a wake up call to reality that a relationship takes work alot of work. For every bad thing they portrayed theres many other things that I do right and with love. People please stop comparing me to your men in your life because I don't see them telling the world they were wrong and want the chance to make it right. I value our relationship and have made big strides in making us happy as a couple. A relationship takes work more work and then more work and I am working hard on my relationship are you?

Richard are you implying that the show protrayed you as controling and that it wasn't because of your view that you're smarter than your future wife & that youdidn't have an attitude that she's not capable of handling money? 

 
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March 30, 2007, 3:56 pm PDT

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I'm going through a divorce after 10 years of marriage. My husband is sensible, reasonable, bright and strong. Selfish, always right, unmovable, unforgiving, and clueless.  My guess is Asperger Syndrome...I don't think that man can change because he doesn't know that there is anything wrong with him.
I agree and how can one change anything until they admit the problems they have?  If someone is always passing the buck rather than admitting "I was wrong" then change can't ever come.  When I hear someone claim to be the victim "they made me look like a monster" I always think narcassist the term "Asperger Syndrome" is a new one to me. When I think of some of the guys who I was serious about prior to meeting hubby I shudder to think I almost married 2 of them.  Everyday I thank the dear Lord above for bringing my husband into my life.   This must have been very difficult for you and don't you just wish that you could really have others learn from your mistake?  
 
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March 30, 2007, 4:03 pm PDT

Y'all better run..fast!!


Nastasia....RUN girl, and run far from that one.  He is no good.  Money will be your biggest source of aggravation the rest of your life with him.  You'll spend the rest of your life on Dr. Phil if you stay with him.  There is no doubt that it would be a mistake to be tied to something like that.  You may be heartbroken at first because you're in love, but you'll be more heartbroken later in life because you're spirit will be broken.  I think he's beyond change at this point in his age.  Break it off with him and give yourself what you deserve, to be treated with mutual respect, consideration, and appreciation.  Think about this also, what has made him this way....obviously his upbringing.  You'll not only hear his complaining and cheapness from him, but his family also about anything you spend.  Things will always be on his terms and that's no good.  He's not worth it,  it's all about him.  He doesn't even know why he's wrong and sweetie he won't get it.  He'll revert to old behaivors before he resolves his thinking and changes anew. RUN RUN RUN

 

 
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March 30, 2007, 4:04 pm PDT

this is for richard

Richard, I'm absolutely incredulous that men like you can still justify your decisions.  This is your WIFE, man!!!!!  She is not your child.  She will eventually tire of being controlled by your demeaning ways, and she WILL leave you, if she has the backbone that God promised a jar of jelly.  I sincerely hope that you both (or, at the very least, YOU) went to counseling to resolve some of your control issues.  You do have it going for you that you're cute (but not THAT cute - you desperately need a shave, dude), but that's about it.  You have a lovely, lovely woman, and you should make an effort to present her with the occasional gift or surprise or present.  She will make your life so very much better for so doing.  (Believe me, I had a husband who kept the pursestrings tied so tightly that I would do well to have an extra dollar in my pocket.  And he BRAGGED that he knew "how to butter HIS bread"!!!  Divorced him.)  Good luck.
 
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March 30, 2007, 4:06 pm PDT

Marriage Preparation

If most couples act like these two, no wonder marriages in the USA have a 50% divorce rate.   We had a selfish, lying bride, who would do most anything to have her way.  And then we had a control freak groom who has  ego issues.  Fortunately, the second couple aren't married yet, & it didn't look like they would be.  The groom says he'd "do anything for her" but he won't go to counseling.  Sounds to me like his ego is bruised bigtime.  She is better off without him.
 
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