Topic : Pornography

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Created on : Friday, July 01, 2005, 05:18:48 pm
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July 27, 2005, 11:11 am PDT

Talk About TV Shows...

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Welcome to the board. Sorry, but he sounds gay to me. My husband can't even stand to watch Queer as Folk or certain scenes in Six Feet Under because of the gay sex. No way would he ever look at gay porn. But does it really matter? Gay, bi, just severely screwed-up? Whatever he is, he isn't for you. I say stop wasting your precious life with this man. Move on and maybe call up the other guy while you're at it.

Speaking of TV shows... you brought up an interesting point.  When we had cable.. we would see previews for Queer Eye and so on, and my husband would start a verbal attack on those people... saying he couldn't STAND crap like that, that they were wierd, demented.. on and on..  yet, I got the videos to prove otherwise. And, he can't even say that he bought them for me, cause I only found out about them about 2.5 weeks ago. So, if it's not okay on TV... why the videos ?  I soooo don't get this.

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July 27, 2005, 11:43 am PDT

Homophobia

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Speaking of TV shows... you brought up an interesting point.  When we had cable.. we would see previews for Queer Eye and so on, and my husband would start a verbal attack on those people... saying he couldn't STAND crap like that, that they were wierd, demented.. on and on..  yet, I got the videos to prove otherwise. And, he can't even say that he bought them for me, cause I only found out about them about 2.5 weeks ago. So, if it's not okay on TV... why the videos ?  I soooo don't get this.

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Homophobia and repressed homosexuality go hand in hand. I think your husband would be a much happier person if he accepted himself as homosexual. I think you would be a much happier person if you set him free to do this, remained friends with him, and found yourself a nice, straight man. There is nothing wrong with being gay, but any urge repressed turns into a sickness. This is what you're seeing in your husband. Keep in mind, however, I'm not a therapist. I'm just responding to what you've written and what it looks like on the surface. Only you can make the final judgment about what to do.
 
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July 27, 2005, 12:12 pm PDT

Time to get something STRAIGHT LOL

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Homophobia and repressed homosexuality go hand in hand. I think your husband would be a much happier person if he accepted himself as homosexual. I think you would be a much happier person if you set him free to do this, remained friends with him, and found yourself a nice, straight man. There is nothing wrong with being gay, but any urge repressed turns into a sickness. This is what you're seeing in your husband. Keep in mind, however, I'm not a therapist. I'm just responding to what you've written and what it looks like on the surface. Only you can make the final judgment about what to do.

Well then... I guess I should take Sandman's advice too, and sit his ass down and find out the real story. Just makes me furious that I didn't see this 3.5 years ago... would have saved me a whole s***load of grief.

 
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July 27, 2005, 12:44 pm PDT

homosexuality

First....to the poster whose husband has been more interested in watching 2 men than jumping into bed with you....I think it is time for a serious talk about preferrences. I don't think for a person (man or women) to spend the rest of their lives in a sexless marriage is fair. Maybe it is time to find out what each other is wanting and go your seperate ways.

 

As far my feelings on homosexuality....I don't understand it. Don't think Ican understand it since my feelings fall in that direction. However....if someone chooses to be homosexual....I am not going to commend them for it. I see it as a matter of choice. Would it work for me....Hell no!

 

However...no matter who appears in porn....whether two men and a women or a man and a women.....I think it is demeaning to the partner in that relationship. Porn leaves a person feeling hurt, inadequate, and ugly. Not sure why a person would do that to a person they claim to love!

 
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July 27, 2005, 12:59 pm PDT

i think

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I feel that I need to set something straight because I know all too well how people read a few posts on this board and then think they know the whole picture surrounding a person. For example, anyone who reads your one post below (or above, or underneath, or inside, or wherever the f--- it is . . . can't make sense of this board), the post that refers to me, will get the impression that my husband dislikes sex and never wants to have it with me. This is not true and I have never said that it is. His sex drive is lower than mine, yes. He wants to have sex about half as often as I do, which translates for us into us having sex about once a week. Hardly a sexless marriage. Trust me, the people who complain on the Differing Sex Drives board about no sex really mean it (they go months and sometimes years without it). I can live with once a week. I've done a lot of complaining in the past and certainly I've taken it all very personally, but ultimately I realized that that wasn't doing either of us any good. My complaining didn't make him suddenly want to have more sex (it did the opposite, actually) and my taking it all personally and doubting my attractiveness just made me feel like poo. So I don't do that anymore and I don't allow my sexual urges to be the focus of my life anymore. We had sex just last night, for example. And it wasn't because I came on to him, although I was in the mood and easily could have done so. He approached me completely on his own because I hadn't placed any pressure on him one way or the other. Now, he'll probably be in the mood again in about a week. Me, I'll want to again in a couple days, but I'll probably just keep quiet about it and sit on that feeling until he's ready to make use of it. It's not perfect, no, but it works for us. I could spend all my time obsessing over why he's the way he is, but that would just be a waste of MY time. Honestly, I think my time would be better spent trying to figure out why he always leaves his socks on the living room floor.  

it is perfectly normal for some to only want to have sex once or twice a week. Even once or twice a month. I also think it is perfectly normal for a person to want it 3 or 4 times a week. I believe a compromise between a married couple whose perferences are so different is needed.

 

For me....I could have it every day or I could go for a couple weeks without. I don't get too upset if it doesn't happen and I never get upset if he wants sex two nights in a row.And vice versa. If I wanted sex more often then he desired to have it....would I be upset....no. Would I go find someone else or something else to satisfy myself....NO.

 

I don't think everything is always perfect in a marriage.....there are somethings that just don't mesh up exactly....but it is still our responsibility to be the partner we vowed to be. There are many things in this marriage that doesn't go my way. MANY THINGS. For example....I wouldn't mind if my husband shaved every night instead of every other night....but not going to have a fit about it. If someone asked me if our sexual urges match each other....I don't know if I would know the answer to that. I believe that no two people are going to match perfectly. That is why there are some days I could have sex and some days I could pass it up. The same goes for him. We are two different people....trying to live life together and hoping we find some level of compatability. I think every couple is going to have times in which one wants something the other doesn't. That is just part of being married. My advice to them....is to work it out or live with it or go your seperate ways. But I also believe that if you marry again...there again is going to be a level differences and again you would have to work it out, live with it, or go  your seperate ways.

 

I believe you are a strong person. You endure so much and you truely do everything you can for your marriage. I hope your husband sees that in you.

 
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July 27, 2005, 1:31 pm PDT

big talk time

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Well then... I guess I should take Sandman's advice too, and sit his ass down and find out the real story. Just makes me furious that I didn't see this 3.5 years ago... would have saved me a whole s***load of grief.

Yes, definitely lay it all on the line and get him to open up. I hope he can be honest with you. You are going to have to do everything in your power to create a supportive and receptive atmosphere so he'l feel comfortable telling the truth. And you really need to hear it from him, not from us. We can only tell you what it looks like. We can't tell you how it really is with him. You owe it to yourself to get the truth from his mouth. Good luck.

 
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July 27, 2005, 1:38 pm PDT

i hate this new board! help!!!!!

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Have you noticed that the Backspace key does NOT work on the above Message Title bar? Damn, my irish, scottish temper is beginning to flare lol..... in any case...

You say that most of the men who look at porn are less than good lovers....tell me this: what if there were some men that were very good lovers who also used porn?  And what does that have to do with anything?  I'll put it this way:  When we watch porn and get aroused, we're watching the beautiful women in the porn vid doing things either with a man (or with a woman woohoo) that WE want to do WITH OUR WIVES the next time they seem willing to have such an encounter!  I fiind what I'm getting aroused by is not only because the women are beautiful, but also because I anticipate being with my wife in this way!  And wondering how she'll look on top of me, with her leg on my shoulder, etc and all the awesome things that go along with that.  I wish women would understand this!!!  Is there a star somewhere for me to wish upon lol???   

 Hi. It took me 20 min. just to figure out how to read your post and then to reply was another hassle. Anyway......I guess if when you look at porn you truly are thinking about how great your sex life with you wife will be due to the new moves, or whatever, then you obviously don't have a problem the way I belileve my husband does. All those moves that he seemingly gets all hot over are anything but incorporated into our love making. I honestly believe his porn use fulfills his needs in the sense that if he looks at it, gets off on it, then he is satisfied. He would never do 1/3 of what those porn people do. This is the part that confuses me. He likes to watch the stuff but in real life, is nothing near it...at least not with me. The strange thing is sometimes when we are doing it, he is looking at my breasts like he is  watching a video. It is so hard to explain. He just kind of looks, doesn't touch so much. I truly feel that in his mind I am a porn video that he has seen one time, only this time, he actually has flesh behind the fantasy. I think porn use tricks the mind into believing sex is a one sided, orgasm only, activity. Once the sex part is over, I am replaced by another video, another form of sexual release, until I am prepared to give my body to him again. It's not very satisfying and since I am a women, I NEED TO FEEL THAT THE MAN (OR WOMAN) I WOULD EVER CHOOSE TO BE WITH ACTUALLY LIKES ME AND WANTS TO EXPERIENCE SEX in a more meaningful way then some porn star making big bucks. I don't get any money to give myself to my husband. What am I getting? Big deal. An orgasm. I can get that anywhere, anytime, with anyone.

I know of guys that look at porn and they love sex too. I know of guys that look at porn and have a real hard time finding someone that comes close to their expectations because of the perfection and beauty displayed in movies. If in my mind I get off on a guy that is 6'5", long blonde hair and fingers the size of kielbasa (heh heh) if I look at my husband with all his imperfections, it is going to be real hard to be satisfied with him. I think porn distorts a persons mind and too much fantasy is not a good thing.
 
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July 27, 2005, 2:14 pm PDT

How to start

Quote From: lilacmess

Yes, definitely lay it all on the line and get him to open up. I hope he can be honest with you. You are going to have to do everything in your power to create a supportive and receptive atmosphere so he'l feel comfortable telling the truth. And you really need to hear it from him, not from us. We can only tell you what it looks like. We can't tell you how it really is with him. You owe it to yourself to get the truth from his mouth. Good luck.

I'm not sure how to start this kind of a conversation, because he seems to be opposed to those kinds of conversations. When I first found the Granpa's Gone Bi video, and almost falling over... I did confront him when he got home. He actually DENIED buying it, told me I was full of it.. then I went and got it. Showed it to him and asked him if he didn't buy it, then just where the hell did it come from ? It's been a touch on the tense side in the household since then. Not sure how to go about it now.

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July 27, 2005, 2:21 pm PDT

wow this board is rreally sucking it up

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July 27, 2005, 2:22 pm PDT

Too far back

I sure as hell am not going through all the archives to find my posts, but you can ask Kimikomine, Lilacmess or Luvmiman, I have told them in post that my wife knows about my using porn.  She isn't exactly jumping for joy about it, but it doesn't crush or destroy her self esteem and the way she feels about herself the way that it has done so to you.  She knows I love her with all of my heart and that I'm not going anywhere!  I also have said in post that I have not, nor will I EVER cheat on my wife.  This will be my last post to you, only because no matter what I say and no matter how much I try to relay to you that I don't look at porn for the same reasons your husband does - you will still continue your rudeness towards me.  So, in closing ma'am, good luck in your marriage and have a nice life.
 

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