Topic : Pornography

Quote From: aliinda

I am flabbergasted! Dr. Phil, you should be ashamed for telling your viewers that viewing porn is "sick, demented and twisted." You are telling millions of people that they are not only abnormal, but also disgusting and basically mentally ill. And you're viewers are eating it up (obviously, based on these forums) like it's the truth! "Number one, pornography is fantasy. It isn't real" -- this is the only true thing I heard you say, Dr. Phil. NORMAL people have fantasies, normal people enjoy watching and reading about fantasies, and normal people sometimes enjoy acting out those fantasies! I know I do, and so does my husband -- we have some we share and some we enjoy on our own. Wow, sometimes we MASTURBATE to those fantasies! We must really, really need help, huh? Oh, and I love this quote, Dr. Phil... "What you're looking at on that screen is somebody's daughter. You're looking at somebody's daughter who has taken a really, really wrong turn." And the woman Chris has in his bed and is having sex with IS SOMEBODY'S DAUGHTER! My Dad doesn't know, or need to know that his little girl likes to have anal sex, get spanked and talk dirty and enjoys porn and erotica. Does this make me a pervert? And as far as porn performers who have "taken a wrong turn," believe me, there are plenty of women out there that enjoy that line of work. "They are demeaning themselves, they are debasing themselves, they are humiliating themselves, and they are being exploited." Give me a break!! You can say that after you've had porn performers on your show all vouching for your claim. You crucify this poor guy, Chris, for being just like any other guy out there. You tell him "It's not healthy, it's not natural, it's not normal." Yes, Dr. Phil, it is. It is normal, it is natural. You are unnatural for trying to twist your viewers morals into your own. Obviously Kiza needs to look on your site to find a "good" moral man. She seems like a sweet girl. But no, Chris won't stop looking at porn. And no Chris, you shouldn't!! I've got lots of nice girls who like sex that I'm sure would love to meet him. And as far as your "Sex Addict Test" -- what a crock. No, sex and sexual thoughts do not disrupt my daily life. Yet, if I went on your show and said what I just typed in here...you'd crush me in front of your audience, and you'd probably enjoy it. Oh, I could on and on and on.... My husband and I watch porn together and separately. We both read erotica. We've been together for 6 years, hopelessly in love, have a steamy sex life and are best friends. I bet you'd all like me to receive the help I desperately need to overcome my "addiction" to porn and erotica!

Quote From: qqqhhh

What I do is type my responses in Notepad or MS Word and then cut and paste the response into my reply.  That way if the session times out, I still have what I wrote.

 

Q

Quote From: lilacmess

So you like porn and so does your husband. Okay. That's fine for you. It isn't fine for a lot of us though. You've inferred, however, that your sexual relationship is somehow hotter and steamier than our sexual relationships because you watch porn and we don't. That couldn't be farther from the truth. My husband and I share fantasies, play with toys, talk dirty, experiment with different positions and orifices, spank, etc. as well. We just don't need pornography to create our heat. And this is what works for us. I might also mention that there is a huge difference between erotica and pornography and just because someone is against pornography doesn't mean he or she is against sex or against all forms of sexually-arousing materials. I am against pornography, not because I don't find it arousing (I do actually), but because I see the damage it is causing us on the cultural level. I have children, so this has a lot to do with why I have become anti-porn. I would be glad to share my stories with you, if you'd like to read them, but I get the impression that you wouldn't. My point here isn't to chastise you but to remind you that your way of life doesn't work for everyone. Pornography has caused and continues to cause a lot of people a lot of pain. I simply choose then not to contribute in any way to pornography's proliferation. You can make a different choice and that's your business. But please don't kid yourself into believing that just because a lot of people are going something that necessarily makes it right or normal. The roads of history are paved with a lot of different things that a lot of people did that were later discovered or accepted to be wrong and no so normal.

Quote From: sandman4u

Just because you and I watch and enjoy porn, that doesn't mean everyone on this board should (or does).  It is a man's/woman's personal PRIVATE choice whether to indulge in porn or not.  And as long as the person with the opposing viewpoint doesn't shove their beliefs down other peoples' throats, then it is possible that we can all discuss ideas and different points of view on this subject without getting hostile, judgemental or holier-than-thou.  Our opinions are heard and noted, but we have to becareful to not insinuate that others should live as we do just because it works for us.

Quote From: qqqhhh

My own issue/stand regarding porn is that it IS a personal choice in very much the same way as choosing to drink alcohol or smoking.  Too much of any of that isn't good for you.

 

However when you are in a relationship with someone else and they are getting hurt by your actions and you say you love them... is it right to continue doing what you enjoy at their expense?

 

Or worse hide it from them, break their trust and inflict much more pain?

 

Personally I have no problem with hubby watching porn or inviting me to do the same, generally we don't but on occasion we have.

 

But I do draw a nice deep line because of my kids.  I have explained to them that porn is fantasy -- it's not how real relationships work, it's not real women or men, it's FAKE.  And I have also told them that too much can twist your perception of what real relationships and love are all about -- especially if you are young and impressionable or older and vulnerable due to low self-esteem. 

 

Anyway ... that's my take... Q