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September 23, 2008, 10:03 pm CDT

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Quote From: passiton2

Look at it this way for a sec. If you decide to have children, do you believe there is other areas in your life that you will "sacrifice" in order to be a good or better mother to your children?  OR do you believe that with children in your life you should have nothing to sacrifice?

 

Do you consider it a sacrifice to not get 8 hours of sleep at night because you have a sick child who is up all night?  Or is this something that is sometimes necessary in order to help your sick child?

 

In the same sense, when you get married, is it a "sacrifice" that you give up going out with your girlfriends on a Friday night because your husband wants to be with your instead?    Do you see it a sacrifice should your husband, for instance, lose his job temporarily and you have to work overtime to help make ends meet for a while?   Do you consider waking up on Sunday morning and for his birthday you cook him a wonderful breakfast a "sacrifice"?    Do you consider doing laundry, folding it or putting it away instead of watching soaps all day long and doing nothing for your family a "sacrifice"?

 

If you do, (and these are very simple examples of what you might believe are "sacrifices") then stay alone, don't get married, or have children, because life is full of sacrifice with the choices we make to involve or have relationships with other people.

 

My marriage, nor my belief system, considers my daily life of loving another person or being kind, respectful and yes sexually fulfilling to that person as "sacrifice".    That might be why I am treated with that same respect and  honor.  Not a "princess" or "queen" mentality at all....just basic honest to goodness relationship insight on what I do know works and does work for the life of my marriage.

 

 


LOL this is just word play, and you stepped in your own doo doo with this one:

If you do, (and these are very simple examples of what you might believe are "sacrifices") then stay alone, don't get married, or have children, because life is full of sacrifice with the choices we make to involve or have relationships with other people.

Your desire to paint everyone here as porn website/sex slave operators has you coming here to argue on ONE WORD said in one paragraph of one of my posts. You want to do that so much that you dont even realize that YOU USE THE TERM YOURSELF!!!

If you actually pulled your head out of your arse, you might actually see what people are actually saying, but alas you are too far gone.

Ever heard of people relating your Love of someone to how much you are willing to sacrifice for them? Ever thought of the fact that when you think about Love and relating it to this word, that it actually means that you do it WILLINGLY and that you WANT TO and DESIRE TO.

You completely misinterpreted what it actually meant, but thats ok, if I were as hostile as you are, I would be putting words into people's mouths, and making them out to be people that they are not also.

No need to go spastic on one word, and assume that the mere mention of it means that people are really rotten, without moral fiber and really dont want to be faithful to their partners, create the best lifestyle for their partners and raise their children the best possible way. I could just as easily pick out any of the words that you have written, and reword it to make you look completely different that it actually meant. Perhaps a better way of approaching it would be to ask, why do you use that word?, and then I would have told you that I heard it's relation to love once and related to it. As much as you want things to be black and white, I dont consider this analogy of love to be the only one in existence, nor do I think its the best. It just one description, and you use it yourself.




 
September 24, 2008, 6:05 am CDT

My meaning, since you can't understand....

Quote From: bmoreselfish


LOL this is just word play, and you stepped in your own doo doo with this one:

If you do, (and these are very simple examples of what you might believe are "sacrifices") then stay alone, don't get married, or have children, because life is full of sacrifice with the choices we make to involve or have relationships with other people.

Your desire to paint everyone here as porn website/sex slave operators has you coming here to argue on ONE WORD said in one paragraph of one of my posts. You want to do that so much that you dont even realize that YOU USE THE TERM YOURSELF!!!

If you actually pulled your head out of your arse, you might actually see what people are actually saying, but alas you are too far gone.

Ever heard of people relating your Love of someone to how much you are willing to sacrifice for them? Ever thought of the fact that when you think about Love and relating it to this word, that it actually means that you do it WILLINGLY and that you WANT TO and DESIRE TO.

You completely misinterpreted what it actually meant, but thats ok, if I were as hostile as you are, I would be putting words into people's mouths, and making them out to be people that they are not also.

No need to go spastic on one word, and assume that the mere mention of it means that people are really rotten, without moral fiber and really dont want to be faithful to their partners, create the best lifestyle for their partners and raise their children the best possible way. I could just as easily pick out any of the words that you have written, and reword it to make you look completely different that it actually meant. Perhaps a better way of approaching it would be to ask, why do you use that word?, and then I would have told you that I heard it's relation to love once and related to it. As much as you want things to be black and white, I dont consider this analogy of love to be the only one in existence, nor do I think its the best. It just one description, and you use it yourself.




Is that perhaps you consider these things sacrifices, others may not, they might call them being in life, being married, having families.   It's not a play on words.  It's a simple comparison of what you or I, or others might consider sacrifice.   It's that simple.

 

You call me hostile, when you are extremely rude for no reason at all.  I think you have some bigger issues that you are obviously not permitted to direct where they actually belong, therefore you come here to bully others. 

 

The whole discussion ends up being about "being more selfish", hinted by the user name you present.  That say volumns about your thinking. 

 
September 24, 2008, 5:30 pm CDT

I have talked to my husband about all of these topics tonight and ...

We would like to ask the following questions (To anyone willing to answer; just out of curiosity.):

 

1.) Age?

 

2.) Are you married?

 

3.) Are you a feminist?

 

4.) Have you or  your husband/ significant other cheated on the other (that you know of)?

 

5.) If your married and have kids, how do you personally keep your relationship WITH YOUR HUSBAND work without any of the things that Passion and I have tried to say worked (s) for us?

 

6.) Did you get married just to have kids and cater to them? And to just forget the need(s) of your husband? And what it is to be a wife ALONG with being a mother? (And I am not just talking sex, but also other needs. If you don't know what I am talking about here, ask.)

 

I'm sorry but my husband ,Passion, and I  are on a totally different wavelength then most of you here. And after a while of reading some of these posts I just get curious. My husband has just been shaking his head about all of this.

 

His view, as a 27yr old married guy, about the lubrication conversation, he also said to maybe go see your gyno, and see if they can give you a pill or something of that nature to help that, or even some information at the least. A professional is a better source of help for something more serious to you then posting it online with people who may just tell you what you want to hear and not necessarily what you need. Lubrication may help but only for a moment but what if it continues?

 

His view on circumcision, is the same as mine. He doesn't believe in the stuff about masterbations, or sensitivity however he is circumcised so he really can't actually say but he said he doesn't regret it. He also wants are son circumcised for health purposes as well. And even if he did regret his circumcision, he can get the surgry done.

 

He/I know when it comes to him and his "manhood" as an almost 30yr old, he can still get it as straight up just as he was when he was 9!! ( I'm a lucky woman. lol) He said usually around his age, they can sometimes start to not be so straight.

 

My husband is willing to give his opinion on anything else that you are willing to throw at him if you are truely interested in a male's true perspective.

 
September 24, 2008, 7:20 pm CDT

Pornography

Quote From: passiton2

Is that perhaps you consider these things sacrifices, others may not, they might call them being in life, being married, having families.   It's not a play on words.  It's a simple comparison of what you or I, or others might consider sacrifice.   It's that simple.

 

You call me hostile, when you are extremely rude for no reason at all.  I think you have some bigger issues that you are obviously not permitted to direct where they actually belong, therefore you come here to bully others. 

 

The whole discussion ends up being about "being more selfish", hinted by the user name you present.  That say volumns about your thinking. 


Splitting hairs. Perhaps because you cant understand or acknowledge the relevance, the reality is, its called responsibility and sacrifice is just one word to describe it.

Where was the discussion about my user name?, there was none lol. You should get out of the habit of making accusations based on nothing.


 
September 24, 2008, 8:04 pm CDT

about

Quote From: angel73681

We would like to ask the following questions (To anyone willing to answer; just out of curiosity.):

 

1.) Age?

 

2.) Are you married?

 

3.) Are you a feminist?

 

4.) Have you or  your husband/ significant other cheated on the other (that you know of)?

 

5.) If your married and have kids, how do you personally keep your relationship WITH YOUR HUSBAND work without any of the things that Passion and I have tried to say worked (s) for us?

 

6.) Did you get married just to have kids and cater to them? And to just forget the need(s) of your husband? And what it is to be a wife ALONG with being a mother? (And I am not just talking sex, but also other needs. If you don't know what I am talking about here, ask.)

 

I'm sorry but my husband ,Passion, and I  are on a totally different wavelength then most of you here. And after a while of reading some of these posts I just get curious. My husband has just been shaking his head about all of this.

 

His view, as a 27yr old married guy, about the lubrication conversation, he also said to maybe go see your gyno, and see if they can give you a pill or something of that nature to help that, or even some information at the least. A professional is a better source of help for something more serious to you then posting it online with people who may just tell you what you want to hear and not necessarily what you need. Lubrication may help but only for a moment but what if it continues?

 

His view on circumcision, is the same as mine. He doesn't believe in the stuff about masterbations, or sensitivity however he is circumcised so he really can't actually say but he said he doesn't regret it. He also wants are son circumcised for health purposes as well. And even if he did regret his circumcision, he can get the surgry done.

 

He/I know when it comes to him and his "manhood" as an almost 30yr old, he can still get it as straight up just as he was when he was 9!! ( I'm a lucky woman. lol) He said usually around his age, they can sometimes start to not be so straight.

 

My husband is willing to give his opinion on anything else that you are willing to throw at him if you are truely interested in a male's true perspective.

About the lubrication...

Angel, maybe her partner is circumcised...tee hee! ;D

[.... Without the foreskin to provide a movable sleeve of skin, intercourse with a circumcised penis resulted in female discomfort from increased friction, abrasion, and loss of natural secretions. Respondents overwhelmingly concurred that the mechanics of coitus were different for the two groups of men. Unaltered men tended to thrust more gently with shorter strokes.

O’Hara, K. and O’Hara, J., "The Effect of Male Circumcision on the Sexual Enjoyment of the Female Partner," BJU 83 (1999): suppl. 1: 79–84]
 
September 25, 2008, 1:28 pm CDT

:-P hehe

Quote From: bankheadbaby

About the lubrication...

Angel, maybe her partner is circumcised...tee hee! ;D

[.... Without the foreskin to provide a movable sleeve of skin, intercourse with a circumcised penis resulted in female discomfort from increased friction, abrasion, and loss of natural secretions. Respondents overwhelmingly concurred that the mechanics of coitus were different for the two groups of men. Unaltered men tended to thrust more gently with shorter strokes.

OHara, K. and OHara, J., "The Effect of Male Circumcision on the Sexual Enjoyment of the Female Partner," BJU 83 (1999): suppl. 1: 7984
Thank you for the interesting information/quote.
 
September 25, 2008, 4:17 pm CDT

Pornography

Quote From: angel73681

We would like to ask the following questions (To anyone willing to answer; just out of curiosity.):

 

1.) Age?

 

2.) Are you married?

 

3.) Are you a feminist?

 

4.) Have you or  your husband/ significant other cheated on the other (that you know of)?

 

5.) If your married and have kids, how do you personally keep your relationship WITH YOUR HUSBAND work without any of the things that Passion and I have tried to say worked (s) for us?

 

6.) Did you get married just to have kids and cater to them? And to just forget the need(s) of your husband? And what it is to be a wife ALONG with being a mother? (And I am not just talking sex, but also other needs. If you don't know what I am talking about here, ask.)

 

I'm sorry but my husband ,Passion, and I  are on a totally different wavelength then most of you here. And after a while of reading some of these posts I just get curious. My husband has just been shaking his head about all of this.

 

His view, as a 27yr old married guy, about the lubrication conversation, he also said to maybe go see your gyno, and see if they can give you a pill or something of that nature to help that, or even some information at the least. A professional is a better source of help for something more serious to you then posting it online with people who may just tell you what you want to hear and not necessarily what you need. Lubrication may help but only for a moment but what if it continues?

 

His view on circumcision, is the same as mine. He doesn't believe in the stuff about masterbations, or sensitivity however he is circumcised so he really can't actually say but he said he doesn't regret it. He also wants are son circumcised for health purposes as well. And even if he did regret his circumcision, he can get the surgry done.

 

He/I know when it comes to him and his "manhood" as an almost 30yr old, he can still get it as straight up just as he was when he was 9!! ( I'm a lucky woman. lol) He said usually around his age, they can sometimes start to not be so straight.

 

My husband is willing to give his opinion on anything else that you are willing to throw at him if you are truely interested in a male's true perspective.

1) I am about to turn 21.

 

2) No, not married yet, but my boyfriend told me that if we are still together after 3-4 years, he will ask me to marry him. 2 years so far, crossin' mah fingahs!

 

3) I consider myself a feminist, however, I think there is a difference between a "feminist" and a "man-hater." I believe that women should be allowed the same rights as human beings as men are allowed. I believe that women should be allowed to make their own decisions about their bodies, their relationships, their jobs and careers, and how to raise their children. I also agree that there are waaay to many gender stereotypes and double-standards in our society. The biggest one being if a man sleeps with a bunch of women, he's a manly man. He's hot, he's the guy all the other guys wanna be like, but if a woman sleeps with a bunch of men, she's a whore. Hate that. Hate it, hate it, hate it.

 

4) No. No cheating involved here. Loyalty is big with me.

 

5) Being that I'm not married and don't have kids, I can't really answer this question. 

 

6) I don't want kids until I'm good and ready. And right now, I'm not. Not financially ready, nor emotionally ready to have children. Birth control and condoms are my friends!

 

And yes, my boyfriend is circumcised.  

 
September 25, 2008, 5:52 pm CDT

I get

Quote From: angel73681

We would like to ask the following questions (To anyone willing to answer; just out of curiosity.):

 

1.) Age?

 

2.) Are you married?

 

3.) Are you a feminist?

 

4.) Have you or  your husband/ significant other cheated on the other (that you know of)?

 

5.) If your married and have kids, how do you personally keep your relationship WITH YOUR HUSBAND work without any of the things that Passion and I have tried to say worked (s) for us?

 

6.) Did you get married just to have kids and cater to them? And to just forget the need(s) of your husband? And what it is to be a wife ALONG with being a mother? (And I am not just talking sex, but also other needs. If you don't know what I am talking about here, ask.)

 

I'm sorry but my husband ,Passion, and I  are on a totally different wavelength then most of you here. And after a while of reading some of these posts I just get curious. My husband has just been shaking his head about all of this.

 

His view, as a 27yr old married guy, about the lubrication conversation, he also said to maybe go see your gyno, and see if they can give you a pill or something of that nature to help that, or even some information at the least. A professional is a better source of help for something more serious to you then posting it online with people who may just tell you what you want to hear and not necessarily what you need. Lubrication may help but only for a moment but what if it continues?

 

His view on circumcision, is the same as mine. He doesn't believe in the stuff about masterbations, or sensitivity however he is circumcised so he really can't actually say but he said he doesn't regret it. He also wants are son circumcised for health purposes as well. And even if he did regret his circumcision, he can get the surgry done.

 

He/I know when it comes to him and his "manhood" as an almost 30yr old, he can still get it as straight up just as he was when he was 9!! ( I'm a lucky woman. lol) He said usually around his age, they can sometimes start to not be so straight.

 

My husband is willing to give his opinion on anything else that you are willing to throw at him if you are truely interested in a male's true perspective.

I get my male perspective from my husband, since it is his perspective that really matters to me... lol =)

amd as far as your hubbys penis not getting as straight as it used to, it may or may not go this way, my hubby is 63 years old and he does not seem to have a problem with it not being straight lol =).

So, i guess i wouldn't worry about it unless it starts to go crooked, and who knows it may be even better crooked, i don't know heh.

As for the young lady that is finding lubrication not up to were she is comfortable, there was good advice given on a lot of posts, personaly, for me if it became a major issue for me and dryness was really prevelant i definatley would go to the doc, and check for hormonal imbalances, infection, what ever, and if i got a clean bill of health, i would ask my doc for a brand of lubricant that is safe for me.

Just another thought, hormonal imbalances can happen at any age hun, young or just young at heart, it can happen to any one of us at any time.

As for lubrication only helping for the moment, there are a lot of products out there that are safe and natural to the woman's vagina. Just a thought that came to me, hun if you are douching, stop, it is not healthy contrary to belief. That would apply to any woman. Unless a doctor perscribes douching don't do it, if you are this may be a reason why lubrication is not as good as you would like it to be.

wish you much success in finding support and help for this.

Tammy

 

 
September 25, 2008, 10:26 pm CDT

Pornography

Quote From: tammy_anne

I get my male perspective from my husband, since it is his perspective that really matters to me... lol =)

amd as far as your hubbys penis not getting as straight as it used to, it may or may not go this way, my hubby is 63 years old and he does not seem to have a problem with it not being straight lol =).

So, i guess i wouldn't worry about it unless it starts to go crooked, and who knows it may be even better crooked, i don't know heh.

As for the young lady that is finding lubrication not up to were she is comfortable, there was good advice given on a lot of posts, personaly, for me if it became a major issue for me and dryness was really prevelant i definatley would go to the doc, and check for hormonal imbalances, infection, what ever, and if i got a clean bill of health, i would ask my doc for a brand of lubricant that is safe for me.

Just another thought, hormonal imbalances can happen at any age hun, young or just young at heart, it can happen to any one of us at any time.

As for lubrication only helping for the moment, there are a lot of products out there that are safe and natural to the woman's vagina. Just a thought that came to me, hun if you are douching, stop, it is not healthy contrary to belief. That would apply to any woman. Unless a doctor perscribes douching don't do it, if you are this may be a reason why lubrication is not as good as you would like it to be.

wish you much success in finding support and help for this.

Tammy

 

UGH!!! FOR THE BAZILLIONTH TIME!!!! THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH MEEEE!!!!

 

I said it over and over and over and over and over and over again!

 

I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS!! I never said I had a problem with this! The only person who said I had a "problem" was Pass because I'm not the same as she was when she was 21!!!

 

And for crissakes I WORK AT A PORN SHOP! I KNOW about lubricants!

 

*pant pant pant*

 

Okay, sorry about that outburst, really....that kind of was on the angry side, I know you're just trying to be nice, but seriously, I NEVER said it was a concern, NEVER said it was a problem, NEVER said I wanted to fix ANYTHING about my body. MY VAGINA IS FINE. I did NOT say that I have a problem with dryness, I DID NOT. Pass insisted that there was something wrong with me ONLY because I was not like her at 21.

 

SERIOUSLY.

 
September 26, 2008, 10:20 am CDT

A question about Douching

Quote From: tammy_anne

I get my male perspective from my husband, since it is his perspective that really matters to me... lol =)

amd as far as your hubbys penis not getting as straight as it used to, it may or may not go this way, my hubby is 63 years old and he does not seem to have a problem with it not being straight lol =).

So, i guess i wouldn't worry about it unless it starts to go crooked, and who knows it may be even better crooked, i don't know heh.

As for the young lady that is finding lubrication not up to were she is comfortable, there was good advice given on a lot of posts, personaly, for me if it became a major issue for me and dryness was really prevelant i definatley would go to the doc, and check for hormonal imbalances, infection, what ever, and if i got a clean bill of health, i would ask my doc for a brand of lubricant that is safe for me.

Just another thought, hormonal imbalances can happen at any age hun, young or just young at heart, it can happen to any one of us at any time.

As for lubrication only helping for the moment, there are a lot of products out there that are safe and natural to the woman's vagina. Just a thought that came to me, hun if you are douching, stop, it is not healthy contrary to belief. That would apply to any woman. Unless a doctor perscribes douching don't do it, if you are this may be a reason why lubrication is not as good as you would like it to be.

wish you much success in finding support and help for this.

Tammy

 

This brings up another topic I was never 100% in understandings with and personally never used.

What does douching actually do or even used for? I always thought that it was just to use it when you get that "not so fresh" feeling or smell. lol My husband has always tould me to never use it because it can actually ruin or even be damaging to your health??? Just curious.  

 
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