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Created on : Friday, July 01, 2005, 05:18:48 pm
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October 4, 2008, 3:02 pm CDT

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Oh, and if your'e still so damned convinced that I'm just a silly little girl who doesn't know what she's talking about, and you demand research, then here. Take a gander.

 

http://www.uspharmacist.com/index.asp?show=article&page=8_1331.htm

 

That is a link to US Pharmacist.com's article on the percieved benefits but real hazards of douching. And below is a quote from the article itself.

 

"False Beliefs Regarding Pregnancy Prevention: As many as 27% of women may be misled into believing that postcoital douching will help prevent pregnancy by washing sperm from the vagina.10 This misperception may give the patient a false sense of security about the value of douching, as opposed to more effective birth control methods (e.g., oral contraceptives, condoms, the female intravaginal condom). Douching has never been found effective as a pregnancy preventive. In fact, the pressure of the douche may actually force ejaculate into the cervix, enhancing the risk of pregnancy."

 

 

 
October 5, 2008, 2:04 pm CDT

This is not what was said

Quote From: redfeathers

Oh, and if your'e still so damned convinced that I'm just a silly little girl who doesn't know what she's talking about, and you demand research, then here. Take a gander.

 

http://www.uspharmacist.com/index.asp?show=article&page=8_1331.htm

 

That is a link to US Pharmacist.com's article on the percieved benefits but real hazards of douching. And below is a quote from the article itself.

 

"False Beliefs Regarding Pregnancy Prevention: As many as 27% of women may be misled into believing that postcoital douching will help prevent pregnancy by washing sperm from the vagina.10 This misperception may give the patient a false sense of security about the value of douching, as opposed to more effective birth control methods (e.g., oral contraceptives, condoms, the female intravaginal condom). Douching has never been found effective as a pregnancy preventive. In fact, the pressure of the douche may actually force ejaculate into the cervix, enhancing the risk of pregnancy."

 

 

This is true....douching is not an effective birth control.  Yes, totally agree, duh.  What was said is that douching could cause the sperm to get "closer to the cervix, therefore increase chances of pregnancy" and that is NOT true at all.  Nope not one bit truth to that statement.

 

In fact, the pressure of the douche may actually force ejaculate into the cervix, enhancing the risk of pregnancy." 

 

That is completely false.  Completely impossible, never heard of this, nor has any doctor I've ever been around.  And I know this because I've worked in the med field for over 22 years.  Call your doctor and get an appt.  sit down and ask a doctor about this, not get your information from your "human sexuality class" you said you have taken.   You know, the one that's taught you everything you've ever needed to know about selling porn and lubricants.  I can find as many websites all over this world that will dispute this statement because it's a myth and a statement made with no facts or research to back this up what so ever.  First of all the cervix does not stay in some flippen "open position" while douching.   The female body is made specifically with that protection in mind, otherwise if you were to sit in a bath tub or swimming pool you'd be in a heap of trouble if that water could get beyond the opening of the cervix.

 

My point was that IF in fact douching could possibly enhance the chances of pregnancy than I would have to wonder why more doctors for infertility would not mention this as a possible solution for those who are having a hard time getting pregnant.  That is why I made this statement.

 

 

 
October 5, 2008, 7:38 pm CDT

Pornography

Quote From: passiton2

This is true....douching is not an effective birth control.  Yes, totally agree, duh.  What was said is that douching could cause the sperm to get "closer to the cervix, therefore increase chances of pregnancy" and that is NOT true at all.  Nope not one bit truth to that statement.

 

In fact, the pressure of the douche may actually force ejaculate into the cervix, enhancing the risk of pregnancy." 

 

That is completely false.  Completely impossible, never heard of this, nor has any doctor I've ever been around.  And I know this because I've worked in the med field for over 22 years.  Call your doctor and get an appt.  sit down and ask a doctor about this, not get your information from your "human sexuality class" you said you have taken.   You know, the one that's taught you everything you've ever needed to know about selling porn and lubricants.  I can find as many websites all over this world that will dispute this statement because it's a myth and a statement made with no facts or research to back this up what so ever.  First of all the cervix does not stay in some flippen "open position" while douching.   The female body is made specifically with that protection in mind, otherwise if you were to sit in a bath tub or swimming pool you'd be in a heap of trouble if that water could get beyond the opening of the cervix.

 

My point was that IF in fact douching could possibly enhance the chances of pregnancy than I would have to wonder why more doctors for infertility would not mention this as a possible solution for those who are having a hard time getting pregnant.  That is why I made this statement.

 

 

Fine then. Why don't you douche after sex and see what happens?
 
October 5, 2008, 10:31 pm CDT

Pornography

Quote From: redfeathers

UGH!!! FOR THE BAZILLIONTH TIME!!!! THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH MEEEE!!!!

 

I said it over and over and over and over and over and over again!

 

I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS!! I never said I had a problem with this! The only person who said I had a "problem" was Pass because I'm not the same as she was when she was 21!!!

 

And for crissakes I WORK AT A PORN SHOP! I KNOW about lubricants!

 

*pant pant pant*

 

Okay, sorry about that outburst, really....that kind of was on the angry side, I know you're just trying to be nice, but seriously, I NEVER said it was a concern, NEVER said it was a problem, NEVER said I wanted to fix ANYTHING about my body. MY VAGINA IS FINE. I did NOT say that I have a problem with dryness, I DID NOT. Pass insisted that there was something wrong with me ONLY because I was not like her at 21.

 

SERIOUSLY.

HAHAHAHAHA, I can't help but to find your angry outburst hilarious.  I'm sorry you've had to hear so much about this.  You have to remember, its mostly an older generation that visit the dr phil forums.  A great deal of the good healthy kind of lubricants weren't haven't been around forever.  I bet many of them would be suprised about all the different kinds of toys and machines your can buys these days too.  Hell, they even got sexbots now.  There are some good uses for some good lube, makes for some good foreplay. 
 
October 5, 2008, 10:43 pm CDT

Pornography

Quote From: passiton2

This is true....douching is not an effective birth control.  Yes, totally agree, duh.  What was said is that douching could cause the sperm to get "closer to the cervix, therefore increase chances of pregnancy" and that is NOT true at all.  Nope not one bit truth to that statement.

 

In fact, the pressure of the douche may actually force ejaculate into the cervix, enhancing the risk of pregnancy." 

 

That is completely false.  Completely impossible, never heard of this, nor has any doctor I've ever been around.  And I know this because I've worked in the med field for over 22 years.  Call your doctor and get an appt.  sit down and ask a doctor about this, not get your information from your "human sexuality class" you said you have taken.   You know, the one that's taught you everything you've ever needed to know about selling porn and lubricants.  I can find as many websites all over this world that will dispute this statement because it's a myth and a statement made with no facts or research to back this up what so ever.  First of all the cervix does not stay in some flippen "open position" while douching.   The female body is made specifically with that protection in mind, otherwise if you were to sit in a bath tub or swimming pool you'd be in a heap of trouble if that water could get beyond the opening of the cervix.

 

My point was that IF in fact douching could possibly enhance the chances of pregnancy than I would have to wonder why more doctors for infertility would not mention this as a possible solution for those who are having a hard time getting pregnant.  That is why I made this statement.

 

 

American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology, 1985 Dec 1;153(7):727-9.

Abstract:

The incidence of ectopic pregnancy in the US has more than doubled in the past decade. Because a previous study has suggested that the practice of vaginal douching may increase the risk of pelvic inflammatory disease, a condition known to predispose to ectopic pregnancy, and because the sale of commercial douching products in the US has more than tripled since 1974, the authors investigated this practice as a possible risk factor. The authors interviewed 155 women who a tubal ectopic pregnancy treated at 5 Seattle hospitals between 1975-79 as to their reproductive, contraceptive, and medical histories, demographic characteristics, and personal hygiene practices. During the same period, 456 women who were delivered of a baby in King County were identified from Vital Records and interviewed as controls. A higher proportion of cases than controls reported ever having douched in past. Cases also douched more frequently than controls. After simultaneous adjusting for confounding factors in the data by means of a multiple logistic regression technique, the risk of tubal ectopic pregnancy for women who douched at least weekly was twice that of women who never douched (95% confidence interval = 1.03-4.00).

 

 

As you can see, its because a fertility doctor wouldn't recommend an ectopic pregnancy. 

 
October 6, 2008, 7:40 am CDT

Geeze!!

Let's just agree to disagree, and if we want Honest truth and understanding about things like this go to a doctor not on here, or any forums. There is always going to be that one or two people that are going to argue with anything and everything. Don't waste your time. If it's important to you and you want honest answers talk to your doctor. End of story.
 
October 6, 2008, 7:41 am CDT

I think this quote was a little harsh...

"Call your doctor and get an appt.  sit down and ask a doctor about this, not get your information from your "human sexuality class" you said you have taken.   You know, the one that's taught you everything you've ever needed to know about selling porn and lubricants."
 
October 6, 2008, 10:13 am CDT

good info, albeit scary as hell, lol

Quote From: turkalurk

American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology, 1985 Dec 1;153(7):727-9.

Abstract:

The incidence of ectopic pregnancy in the US has more than doubled in the past decade. Because a previous study has suggested that the practice of vaginal douching may increase the risk of pelvic inflammatory disease, a condition known to predispose to ectopic pregnancy, and because the sale of commercial douching products in the US has more than tripled since 1974, the authors investigated this practice as a possible risk factor. The authors interviewed 155 women who a tubal ectopic pregnancy treated at 5 Seattle hospitals between 1975-79 as to their reproductive, contraceptive, and medical histories, demographic characteristics, and personal hygiene practices. During the same period, 456 women who were delivered of a baby in King County were identified from Vital Records and interviewed as controls. A higher proportion of cases than controls reported ever having douched in past. Cases also douched more frequently than controls. After simultaneous adjusting for confounding factors in the data by means of a multiple logistic regression technique, the risk of tubal ectopic pregnancy for women who douched at least weekly was twice that of women who never douched (95% confidence interval = 1.03-4.00).

 

 

As you can see, its because a fertility doctor wouldn't recommend an ectopic pregnancy. 

This is a very good post Turk, being a woman reading or hearing of a ectopic pregnancy gives me a knee jerk response, lol, as i am sure it does many women.

Ectopic pregnancies are horrific for any woman to have to endure for many reasons.

You know It really makes me feel good to know that men are just as concerned abut women's health as women are, and for you to take the time to research this is awsome thank you so much!

95% is to high a percentage to ignore.

Very good information, for women to check out on thier own if they want to learn more, like me lol. Thank you so much =).

Tammy

 
October 6, 2008, 10:49 am CDT

to me

Quote From: angel73681

"Call your doctor and get an appt.  sit down and ask a doctor about this, not get your information from your "human sexuality class" you said you have taken.   You know, the one that's taught you everything you've ever needed to know about selling porn and lubricants."

To me that quote is simply attacking some one on a personal level, and It is not nice at all.

Human sexuality classes are very informative and helpfull, and as far as I know they do not "teach me how to sell porn, or lubricants. No I am not a medical professional, I was trained in Social work, and that incompasses a lot of different things, including human sexuality... and i am thinking back to whether I was ever taught how to sell porn or lubricants in any of my classes that pertained to human sexuality... and I can not remember one single instance were I was taught that.

The thing is, i have worked with hundreds of women and children over the years, and I have found that more often than not, women have no information whatsoever to even begin contemplating what questions to ask their doctors! It is a fine thing to educate ones self in what ever way is possible to ones selrf, to know what questions to ask. Stuck on the vagina topic? I do not think any one is stuck on anything, from were I am sitting it is a sharing of information, from many diffrent sources and veiw points, and in my opinion is great, simply because it gives women and men a starting point to begin researching and knowing what questions are important to them. Should one go to their medical professional and ask the important question? Of course I am a strong advocate of seeking out the professionals that dedicate their lives to knowing the answers. However, if you don't know what you need to ask how in the world is one going to ask the question? For instance Turks post about ectopic pregnancies, that is new information to me, and it sounds like it could be valid, do I want to know more about it? Heck yes! However, it does not change the fact that it was turk, that made me aware of it first, and as far as I know he is not a medical doctor. So to disparage some one for getting information from a human sexuality class, simply because one does not agree with what they are saying is just deflecting from the fact that it is information, take it or leave it. People need to take ownership of their own information too, I mean really, we can rely one on person to have all the answers, but that is not humanly possible, so doing our own research, asking the right questions, and relying on others, to gauge the accuracy of that information from many different rescourses, then at the end of the Day one can make an imformed decision for themselves.

Any way for those that have so willingly shared their information and experiences, thank you.

So to get off the "stuck" on the vagina topic...how about those penises? LOL =)

Tammy

 

 

 
October 6, 2008, 5:41 pm CDT

Thinks of me when watching porn??

My boyfriend of 7 months says he only looks at the breasts of the girls when he watches porn..(we see each other 3 times a week )and we have sex once maybe)says it reminds him of me when IM NOT.there..well I  went through this in my last relationship ..only difference is I LOVE THIS GUY ..he says he feels bad tahat I called him on it ..we have discussed it and he said he wasnt  into it ,,,sO i thought I was lucky I need to know if I should be feeling lucky lol..we are both 40yrs old..I feel like its the same thing happening all over again...thanx 
 
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