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September 16, 2008, 11:31 am PDT

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Quote From: turkalurk

She is right about the lubricants.  The juices really flow with some girls, so lots of em don't need any lubrication for vaginal sex.

Ok, how can I word this so it doesn't get deleted?   So, can I still say that I don't believe her when she says she hasn't been hurt by porn?  Can I ask her if her husband has ever been addicted to porn? 

 
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September 16, 2008, 11:35 am PDT

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Good or bad, does porn play a part in your life? Talk about it here.

 

Back to the topic at hand.

 

Porn does play a part in our relationship. (Husband and Wife) And I really don't find it that bad at all.

 

My husband has been into porn for a while now; even before me. And I will admit there were times in the begining of the relationship where I felt that it was uncalled for and that it was degrating, disgusting, made me very self conscience, the whole 9 yards.

I had tould him this that this was really bothering me. (Mind you it took me a while to finally get the guts to go up to him and talk to him about this.) He explained to me that when it comes to porn that it is more of a vissual then anything else. Guys are visual creatures and we women are more into the listening. It took me a while to really absorb this and take it into consideration. Then I started realizing that it could be alot worse, he could be abusive, he could really be screwing another woman, etc. After a while I started asking him what was it that he liked about these certian porn videos and pics, etc. Then he started getting a little uncomfortable which is interesting to me in a way. I didn't go up to him about this in a mean way or anything but I thought that if there was something that I could do to spice things up I would possibly consider it if I felt comfortable about it. We talked and I started to end my contant thinking and relax and realized this man is still with me and i love him to death. We have not had major issues, fights, etc. to the point where we would ever consider getting a divorce so maybe I can maybe even heighten it up and find out what exactly excites him.

 

And here we are, 6 yrs later. He still looks at porn from time to time but not as much as he used to. He is more into stories and role playing which I myself find sort of fun at times. I ocassionally find myself even looking at some, when I am by myself and my husband is at work. He knows I do this, sometimes he gets bumbed out that I already have and sometimes it turns him on. *shrug*

 

I think it all depends on how much time you spend in a day looking at it and if you actually do the deed in your seat. I also know there are alot of wierd fetishes out there that I find kind of disgusting but hey to one his/her own.

 
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September 16, 2008, 1:16 pm PDT

If you are asking me Turk, here's your answer

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Ok, how can I word this so it doesn't get deleted?   So, can I still say that I don't believe her when she says she hasn't been hurt by porn?  Can I ask her if her husband has ever been addicted to porn? 

No, my husband, nor I are or ever have been addicted to porn, much less used it at any time.  Aware of it, yes, more and more in our world.  It is shoved down your throat even if you aren't a participating customer buying it.  It's everywhere.

 

I do have two grown daughters, who have experiences with this part of society, mostly in a negative way.  We talk openly with our kids about this, and they come to us with a lot of thier issues when it comes to men these days.

 

Just as a young woman in her 20's usually does not need a lubricant, IF the sex is handled in the proper way, nor do young men in their 20, 30, 40, or even 50's usually need viagra in order to preform sex at any given time.  Especially in the 20's.  But that too, has become a staple in the sexual lives of the youth.

At some point I would think people would get a clue on this stuff and realize they are eventually going to become desensitized to the effects of porn, sex as whole.   Young women, today, and this is fact, are more and more aware that unless they measure up to the standards in the world of porn, they will not measure up to the demands made of them in relationships with real men wanting UNreal women.   Young men are facing real hurdles when it comes to actually being involved in honest sexual relationships because they do not equal what they are seeing inside porn.

 

Young men are having real difficulties with the reality of sex, they can't possible have sex for hours on end over and over again without the assistance of sex enhancing drugs.   The black market is full of millions of dollars of sales of viagra.  Who are the customers, young men are.   Young, very very young girls are faced with going into a regular everyday super store and there is nothing available to them unless it's a thong, or lacy bra, or boy shorts, everything reflects a sexual side to it.  Nothing is available anymore unless it portrays them as sexual beings.  And I am talking about very young, little girls, not teenagers!

 

We are an overly bombarded society with sex on every corner.    It no longer means anything.  We expect young teenage boys to sit in classrooms and learn, with seeing the bare stomaches and bulging breasts of the girl in front of them.   All this is "normal" today.    And if you are not "in with" that style then you are not the normal person anymore.   Is there a connection to the reason that females are out doing in grades and subject such as math and science, while young men are falling to the waste of this thinking?  I don't know, just an observation.     Are younger and younger women, in their teens having breast implants for their 16th birthday parties doing this to "feel good about themselves" or is this in anyway our society telling them that unless their breast are fake and look like melons shoved under skin, they are not normal anymore?

 

Come on, do none of these things apparent to us as humans?  Or is the insignificant meaning of sexual relationships just that, meaningless?  What portrays this to us on a daily basis?   And where will this be in say 10 years, even 5 years?    And are young people to day even remotely concerned about this when thinking about their little girls and boys they may someday raise in this society?

 

 

 
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September 16, 2008, 1:21 pm PDT

circumcision

Hey guys. I have been reading up on circumcision, in preparation of the birth of my child--incase it's a boy. My husband wants him circumcised because he doesn't want him teased. After reading up on it and seeing pics of the procedure, I think he will have to pry the child from my cold dead hands before I let it happen. He's still out of town, so I will wait until he gets back to broach the subject.

It's funny that only about 83% of males world wide are NOT circumcised, the majority of those who are are American. It started in the 1880s when wacko doctors, thinking masturbation caused illness such as blindness, etc. encouraged circumcision to de-sensitize the penis and discourage masturbation. Circumcision as a cure for masturbation!! Come to find out, with the glans exposed and rubbing against clothing, it does de-sensitize and toughen the penis, but that leads to MORE masturbation and harder thrusting during sex. Men with natural penises have more nerve endings, the head is protected and sensitive, so they get more sexual gratification from intercourse...supposed to help the lady keep wet and enjoy more shallow gentle stroke.

I was wondering who out there had partners with or without foreskin, how they felt in bed and if either seemed more prone to porn/masturbation or not. I am really curious. I have only been with four men, all circumcised and none were exceptional, sensitive strokers.
 
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September 16, 2008, 2:08 pm PDT

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Your take on sex is just fine for you.  As far as using lubricants, you are terribley misinformed.  Lubricants, yes are necessary if you cannot produce the normal lubricants that your vaginal area is perfectly capable of producing on it's own when sexually aroused.  Most lubricants are helpful when hormones are unbalanced or if a woman is menopausal stages.    Or if there is some unhealthy vaginal enviroment due to illness or medications.   A LOT of lubricants are purely for smell or even tastes and are not always very healthy because they can upset the natural bacterial enviroment that the vagina has of it's own.

 

The vagina is perfectly capable of moistening with proper attention without any lubricant, especially at the tender age of 21, and no tearing or abrasions IF a women is properly brought to the point of excitement stages.

 

Now that's that on your lubricant rant.  

 

All the other stuff, I already stated, that yes I believe you and your boyfriend has it all going on for your relationship right now as it is.    That is not my argument with you.  What you believe is right for you for your age at this time in your life is typical and normal for you to feel this way today.  Years from now, I promise you that you will NOT always see things as you  do right now.  Thats is a certainty.   I was 21 before, you haven't been my age as of yet.   I know how you see things, and can totally relate.

 

However, that being said, you are not nor have you been in a long term committed relationship.  Nor have you completely been committed to by your boyfriend either.    There is something to be said for the respect of one's self, and a person's sexual relationship.   There is a level of respect that a man grows to have for his partner and that often comes with maturity.    That also often does not INCLUDE the invitation for his or your friends to be involved or sit around laughing about porn and thinking it's all fun.

 

Your picture drawing, again, how cute.   Mature, respectful of one another....it's not.   What you consider a great sex life, is your take on your experience.  That does not make you "all knowing" or able to look into any crystal ball and depend on what you think you see today or that it will always be gospel through out your life.  Because it won't be the same in years to come.  I assure you, things will and do change, and what you do today and how you present yourself to this man, all accepting of anything that goes, will also not be the wisest of things to do.  

 

You have no idea of how far porn use can take your relationship, nor do you understand the level that porn plays inside your boyfriends life.  You just plain do not know any of that.  And that is where my words will come back to replay in your head, and they should.    And it is also why you are extremely defensive of your sexual relationship instead of understanding my comments to the fullest or the intention.

 

Just to let you know, I have been married since the age of 21 to the same man.  I have two grow children and I have the most wonderful, exciting sexual relationship you can ever imagine with a man who adores me and I do him.  We have sex very very regularly, more often than you would believe.  How?  Because we are very into one another.   My husband and I do not entertain with porn, we are together, we have no need for porn.    And yes, at our ages, we know very much about "toys" and lubricants,  fantasy and all the rest.

 

You have a lot to learn.  I get that, and it's not an insult either.   I was 21 at one time as well.  And even though I thought at the time that I did know it all......life teaches us later on that we should have put more into learning rather than thinking we already know all there is to know in this life.

 

 

 

 

So, just because I'm not married and aren't as old as you, that totally discredits my relationship as not long term and commited?

Have you ever been punched in the face?
 
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September 16, 2008, 2:11 pm PDT

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Quote From: passiton2

Your take on sex is just fine for you.  As far as using lubricants, you are terribley misinformed.  Lubricants, yes are necessary if you cannot produce the normal lubricants that your vaginal area is perfectly capable of producing on it's own when sexually aroused.  Most lubricants are helpful when hormones are unbalanced or if a woman is menopausal stages.    Or if there is some unhealthy vaginal enviroment due to illness or medications.   A LOT of lubricants are purely for smell or even tastes and are not always very healthy because they can upset the natural bacterial enviroment that the vagina has of it's own.

 

The vagina is perfectly capable of moistening with proper attention without any lubricant, especially at the tender age of 21, and no tearing or abrasions IF a women is properly brought to the point of excitement stages.

 

Now that's that on your lubricant rant.  

 

All the other stuff, I already stated, that yes I believe you and your boyfriend has it all going on for your relationship right now as it is.    That is not my argument with you.  What you believe is right for you for your age at this time in your life is typical and normal for you to feel this way today.  Years from now, I promise you that you will NOT always see things as you  do right now.  Thats is a certainty.   I was 21 before, you haven't been my age as of yet.   I know how you see things, and can totally relate.

 

However, that being said, you are not nor have you been in a long term committed relationship.  Nor have you completely been committed to by your boyfriend either.    There is something to be said for the respect of one's self, and a person's sexual relationship.   There is a level of respect that a man grows to have for his partner and that often comes with maturity.    That also often does not INCLUDE the invitation for his or your friends to be involved or sit around laughing about porn and thinking it's all fun.

 

Your picture drawing, again, how cute.   Mature, respectful of one another....it's not.   What you consider a great sex life, is your take on your experience.  That does not make you "all knowing" or able to look into any crystal ball and depend on what you think you see today or that it will always be gospel through out your life.  Because it won't be the same in years to come.  I assure you, things will and do change, and what you do today and how you present yourself to this man, all accepting of anything that goes, will also not be the wisest of things to do.  

 

You have no idea of how far porn use can take your relationship, nor do you understand the level that porn plays inside your boyfriends life.  You just plain do not know any of that.  And that is where my words will come back to replay in your head, and they should.    And it is also why you are extremely defensive of your sexual relationship instead of understanding my comments to the fullest or the intention.

 

Just to let you know, I have been married since the age of 21 to the same man.  I have two grow children and I have the most wonderful, exciting sexual relationship you can ever imagine with a man who adores me and I do him.  We have sex very very regularly, more often than you would believe.  How?  Because we are very into one another.   My husband and I do not entertain with porn, we are together, we have no need for porn.    And yes, at our ages, we know very much about "toys" and lubricants,  fantasy and all the rest.

 

You have a lot to learn.  I get that, and it's not an insult either.   I was 21 at one time as well.  And even though I thought at the time that I did know it all......life teaches us later on that we should have put more into learning rather than thinking we already know all there is to know in this life.

 

 

 

 

Also, you act like you know all and see all more than I do.

Need I remind you of all the assumptions and rude comments you've made not just about me, but about other people here?
 
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September 16, 2008, 3:52 pm PDT

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Hey guys. I have been reading up on circumcision, in preparation of the birth of my child--incase it's a boy. My husband wants him circumcised because he doesn't want him teased. After reading up on it and seeing pics of the procedure, I think he will have to pry the child from my cold dead hands before I let it happen. He's still out of town, so I will wait until he gets back to broach the subject.

It's funny that only about 83% of males world wide are NOT circumcised, the majority of those who are are American. It started in the 1880s when wacko doctors, thinking masturbation caused illness such as blindness, etc. encouraged circumcision to de-sensitize the penis and discourage masturbation. Circumcision as a cure for masturbation!! Come to find out, with the glans exposed and rubbing against clothing, it does de-sensitize and toughen the penis, but that leads to MORE masturbation and harder thrusting during sex. Men with natural penises have more nerve endings, the head is protected and sensitive, so they get more sexual gratification from intercourse...supposed to help the lady keep wet and enjoy more shallow gentle stroke.

I was wondering who out there had partners with or without foreskin, how they felt in bed and if either seemed more prone to porn/masturbation or not. I am really curious. I have only been with four men, all circumcised and none were exceptional, sensitive strokers.
I have only been with 2 men in my life sexually and both of them are circumcised. And personally , I would like to be sure our son would be the same way.
 

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September 16, 2008, 7:03 pm PDT

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Hey guys. I have been reading up on circumcision, in preparation of the birth of my child--incase it's a boy. My husband wants him circumcised because he doesn't want him teased. After reading up on it and seeing pics of the procedure, I think he will have to pry the child from my cold dead hands before I let it happen. He's still out of town, so I will wait until he gets back to broach the subject.

It's funny that only about 83% of males world wide are NOT circumcised, the majority of those who are are American. It started in the 1880s when wacko doctors, thinking masturbation caused illness such as blindness, etc. encouraged circumcision to de-sensitize the penis and discourage masturbation. Circumcision as a cure for masturbation!! Come to find out, with the glans exposed and rubbing against clothing, it does de-sensitize and toughen the penis, but that leads to MORE masturbation and harder thrusting during sex. Men with natural penises have more nerve endings, the head is protected and sensitive, so they get more sexual gratification from intercourse...supposed to help the lady keep wet and enjoy more shallow gentle stroke.

I was wondering who out there had partners with or without foreskin, how they felt in bed and if either seemed more prone to porn/masturbation or not. I am really curious. I have only been with four men, all circumcised and none were exceptional, sensitive strokers.

Hi,

I was wondering who out there had partners with or without foreskin,how they felt in bed and if either seemed more prone toporn/masturbation or not. I am really curious. I have only been withfour men, all circumcised and none were exceptional, sensitivestrokers.

If I were you I would not circumcise your son. My first partner is not circumcised, and just from experience, I have always wondered, why in the hell do people get circumcised!. An uncircumcised penis is so beautiful when erect, there is nothing wrong with it whatsoever. The only point I can see against it, is that there is more cleaning required. But why would you remove the outer layer just for that!!.

You have done the research, you know some facts now, and you can see there is really NO advantage to doing it.

What is wrong with a penis having a covering when it is flaccid?. I know I wouldnt choose circumcision on a future son of mine. I just think there is absolutely nothing wrong with an uncircumcised one. I'm also in awe of natures remarkable design, and of how there is no trace of this outer layer when erect.

I cant advise you about uncircumcised penis's being sensitive strokers, but you said so yourself, that obviously when the penis looses its sensitivity, they will have to use more abrasive force.

I dont think there is any relationship between being circumcised or not, and masturbation/porn use frequency. There might be something regarding the penis getting more sensitive if you are circumcised, but from the people I know, either way, it doesn't stop them from doing it as frequently as they desire.


 

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September 16, 2008, 7:19 pm PDT

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I have only been with 2 men in my life sexually and both of them are circumcised. And personally , I would like to be sure our son would be the same way.

I think that is through fear. I probably would have thought the same way as you had I not seen that there is nothing wrong with it. In fact, i think it would be a disappointment for me to be with a penis that is not the way it should be. I guess either way it doesn't matter. I just think its crazy to circumcise based on ... what? .... appearance???? Perhaps you should have a look at what one looks like when its erect, and you might see things differently. Why would you take away a protective covering. I'd feel robbed if I grew up as a circumcised boy.

Oh, and for the husband that worries about his son being picked on, geez ... I hope his son grows up to have a strong back bone and has a sense of self that is not defined by fitting in and what idiots think in the playground

 
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September 16, 2008, 7:20 pm PDT

Yes that is what I mean

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So, just because I'm not married and aren't as old as you, that totally discredits my relationship as not long term and commited?

Have you ever been punched in the face?

You have no idea where this relationship will take you. Pure and simple there is no way you could know for certain.  we have all lived through that kind of life.  I don't discredit your relationship, you do, so does he.  That is what you do at your age.  Take for granted that all is just great and will never change. But it will and so will the changes you go through.  That is exactly what I am saying.   

 

You are not as old as I am, that is factual.  I can see, and totally understand where you are today, right now, but you can not possibly see or understand where I have been because you have not lived it.   There is no shame in that, it's just fact.  I am simply saying what you feel and think today is not, or will not be the same as it will be right now, at my age.  I USED to think like you.  But life's experiences no longer allow me to believe as you do right now....because I do know better.  That is simply the way it is. 

 

For me to lie to you and tell you differently is just that....lying to you.   And I would not lie to you anymore than I would lie to my own children.

 

And your last question.....yes, I have been punched in the face. Smack dab right in the middle. More than once.  And I learned something, depending on who was doing the hitting (punching, literally and not so literally) , I most certainly learned something each and every time it happened.  Today, thankfully, I did learn.  You should as well.

 

 

 

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