Topic : Pornography

*whew* Now that I've had some time to cool down about this, I can answer you in a much calmer manner.

 

Sorry that I kind of exploded at you, I really didn't mean to do that.

 

Sorry, if you took this the wrong way, all i was going by was what I read, and did not go back as far as it seems i should have. Honestly, when i was sharing my opionions and thoughts, for the most part I was not thinking specifically of your case, but more general of women who may have an issue with vaginal dryness.

 

It's alright. I wasn't mad at you in particular, just at the fact that I feel like people aren't taking me seriously when I say it's not a problem, or just don't take me seriously because I am young an unmarried.

 

Further more if Pass was making a judgement baseed on her own experiences, then that is all it is a very narrow veiw point, that is applied liberaly to all who do not fit into her experience. It is narow minded, but if that is all she has to go on then that is what she is going to use, lol.  However, since it does not apply to you, and I was under a false impression, I apologize for that, I was under the impression this was a legitimate conversation about the issues, surrounding vaginal dryness.. and was being honest about my points of view on the matter.

 

I chose to stop responding to her a while ago. The things I have to go by are, of course, my own experiences, as well as the things I am taught in my Human Sexuality course, and the things I am taught about the industry and products that we sell at the adult store I work at. (The class teaches about both psycological and physiological aspects of sexuality, and I learn more about the products *sex toys, lubes, etc* themselves) but I do like to entertain the idea that everyone's body is different, and vaginal dryness isn't neccessarily always a problem. It can be, but not in my case. I think some people are under the impression that I do not create any natural lubrication at all, and that I need lubricants every time I have sex. In that case, it is not so. Sometimes I do get enough not to need it (but still use some anyway just for fun) and sometimes I don't get enough and need a little extra, sometimes we don't use any lubricants at all. This is why I kept saying that I don't need to go to the doctor, because for me it really would be a waste of both my and the doctor's time.

 

Any way maybe a woman who is sincerly dealing with this issue, will find something that she can use to her benifit, and if not, well it was simply entertaining and even had some educational qualitys to the posts lol. Have a nice day, and I must say I am happy to hear that this is not a issue for you, because in all honestly not only can it be a physically painful issue, the emotional repercusions can be devastating to some one who is dealing with it.

 

Oh without doubt there are women who do have problems with this, and I agree that some of them could draw decent advice from your posts. I think that for a woman who is having trouble with excessive dryness and irritation should go to her doctor about it, same as if a woman who is having a problem with excessive moisture.  I'm thankfull that my case is niether.

 

Any how, I am rambling again lol, have a great day =).

Tammy

 

I don't think you're rambling :D Actually, I'm glad you reacted to my outburst with the level of rationality that you did.

Douching is supposed to be a way to "clean" the vagina, but it's not neccessarily a good idea. Some women think it will clean out the sperm from their vaginal canal after sex, but in reality it can push sperm further up into the vagina closer to the cervix and increase the chances of pregnancy.

 

It can also remove essential bacteria that is needed for vaginal health, dry it out, or even cause yeast infections.

 

So yeah, your husband is right.

If you hadn't intended to put the topic directly on me, perhaps wording it differently would have helped.

 

I've had a little time to chill out and rant to a girlfriend about it, so I can definately say I blew off some steam about the issue. Sorry about the explosion of...er..caps. XD

In all honesty in my late teens and early 20's I douched, probably once a month, and i started getting yeast infections, my doc asked if i was wearing synthetic panties and or doucheing or wearing tight jeans. I was like what the hell?!

What kind of questions are those, give me the freaking cream and let me get out of here lol.

Well, I told my doc , yes I was douching, and yes my panites were of the synthetic variety, and umm I was a young woman, and tight jeans were the in thing when i was a young woman lol. Fist thing she said is to stop douching immediatley, that it was removing essential natural vaginal good bacteria, second start wearing cotton panties, or ensure that my synthetic , silk, or satin panties always always have a cotton liner ... and lastley loosen up on the jeans lol.

As for the sperm being pushed up further that really sounds like a legitimate possibility! Douches are not spermicides, so if this young woman is correct, and a woman is not on birth control but using douches as a hope this works form of birth control.. yikes! However, it is up to each individual woman to make the choice, I would just hope they make an informed choice and do some reasearch on it, and talk to their Doc about it.

HAHA we way of topic of Porn but this is great information sharing, and really I am learning new stuff too!

Tammy

 

 

I appreciate the information. 

"but in reality it can push sperm further up into the vagina closer to the cervix and increase the chances of pregnancy. "

 

As prescribed by dr. red for thousands of women everywhere to use this technique if they have the slightest problem getting pregnant.

 

Just douch after you have sex and this will increase your chances of getting pregnant!!! LOL, that's too funny. 

 

Ok, now do some research on this please, and check out the life span sperm. 

 

"pushes sperm further into the vagina closer to the cervix"..lol, my goodness.

 

Plain simple truth, you don't douch without talking to a doctor about it, and unless presribed by him/her you don't need to do this.

 

And ps. since we are stuck on the vagina thing, did you know that products sold specifically for women to "mask problems" are also known to give serious complications and infections to them.  For instance using a product with talc is actually linked to certain types of cancers.   Did you know that using products that are use, (even those lubricants) are "approved" for usage and yet still cause some serious problems for "SOME" women.  Especially those that are "flavored" or "fragranced".   FDS sprays also were known to have some serious complications for women, and yet they are still on the grocery isles being sold to women everywhere.

 

The vagina is made very self-sufficient for cleansing and maintaining it's own enviroment UNLESS it comes in contact with something outside of it's normal or healthy "intake"...such as a man with an infection or various products that cause an instability in the natural enviroment OR hormonal inbalances, OR more common, but serious infections.   Also, number one, is vaginal yeast infections caused from a host of problems women bring on themselves, like "thongs" or extremely tight pants, or wearing un-breathable fabrics or just plain being filthy and not cleansing properly and using products to "mask" a problem of a more serious nature.

 

Bottom line, if you have any kind of issues in this specific area. Its best to seek doctors attention and ask a professional.

Once again, I have done research on this dearie.

At what point did I say that douching was supposed to be used for women who want to get pregnant? Didn't. Didn't say that at all at any point anywhere on my post.

I do happen to know the lifespan of sperm. Sperm can actually stay alive inside a woman's body for UP TO but not always, four days.

Now, if you really are so damned set on the idea that I can't drop a subject, then maybe you would stop quoting all my posts wouldn't you? I wasn't even talking to you for crissakes.

And you know what? I do not care how long you've been married or how old you are, OKAY? I don't. You've been married no longer than my own parents. I would seriously appreciate it if you would JUST FRIKKIN STOP discrediting everything I say just because I'm not as old as you, or because I'm not married. There are people who have been married twice as long as you have that don't pretend to know everything the way you do.

Now, once again, LEAVE ME AND MY POSTS ALONE AND KEEP YOUR SARCASM TO YOURSELF.

Oh, and if your'e still so damned convinced that I'm just a silly little girl who doesn't know what she's talking about, and you demand research, then here. Take a gander.

 

http://www.uspharmacist.com/index.asp?show=article&page=8_1331.htm

 

That is a link to US Pharmacist.com's article on the percieved benefits but real hazards of douching. And below is a quote from the article itself.

 

"False Beliefs Regarding Pregnancy Prevention: As many as 27% of women may be misled into believing that postcoital douching will help prevent pregnancy by washing sperm from the vagina.10 This misperception may give the patient a false sense of security about the value of douching, as opposed to more effective birth control methods (e.g., oral contraceptives, condoms, the female intravaginal condom). Douching has never been found effective as a pregnancy preventive. In fact, the pressure of the douche may actually force ejaculate into the cervix, enhancing the risk of pregnancy."

 

 

This is true....douching is not an effective birth control.  Yes, totally agree, duh.  What was said is that douching could cause the sperm to get "closer to the cervix, therefore increase chances of pregnancy" and that is NOT true at all.  Nope not one bit truth to that statement.

 

In fact, the pressure of the douche may actually force ejaculate into the cervix, enhancing the risk of pregnancy." 

 

That is completely false.  Completely impossible, never heard of this, nor has any doctor I've ever been around.  And I know this because I've worked in the med field for over 22 years.  Call your doctor and get an appt.  sit down and ask a doctor about this, not get your information from your "human sexuality class" you said you have taken.   You know, the one that's taught you everything you've ever needed to know about selling porn and lubricants.  I can find as many websites all over this world that will dispute this statement because it's a myth and a statement made with no facts or research to back this up what so ever.  First of all the cervix does not stay in some flippen "open position" while douching.   The female body is made specifically with that protection in mind, otherwise if you were to sit in a bath tub or swimming pool you'd be in a heap of trouble if that water could get beyond the opening of the cervix.

 

My point was that IF in fact douching could possibly enhance the chances of pregnancy than I would have to wonder why more doctors for infertility would not mention this as a possible solution for those who are having a hard time getting pregnant.  That is why I made this statement.

 

 

Fine then. Why don't you douche after sex and see what happens?