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Created on : Friday, July 01, 2005, 05:18:48 pm
Author : dataimport

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December 8, 2005, 11:27 am PST

Hiya

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I will give you that there are marriages that exsist that have a need that porn fulfills. However that is not all marriages. Some simply desire to add porn into their realtionship for the same reason most enjoy trying new things. There is a huge difference between Need and desire. A need is something that with out it you will not be able to be fulfilled. A desire is something that you want. You can be happy and completely fulfilled with out what it is you desire. That is where I think you are wrong on this.  

  

You may not have to extend or strengthen your realtionship, but most people desire to have a strong and happy realtionship. You can't take all relationships that use porn and say that they are deficant in someway. That is an unfair Generlaztion.  

  

Lovinglady 

I have a question for you though.  I believe that you even said that your S/O has decreased his porn use when you started putting mirrors and doing other things that he use to watch.  My question is, how is that not missing something in the relationship?  He wanted to try something different, do something different and he turned to porn because of that and when he told you or you both realized it would be fun is when the porn decreased. 

  

Hope you are doing great. 

 
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December 8, 2005, 11:28 am PST

That's what wives were

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You want a slave. Someone to worship you. That is so very sick. You have avery warped Idea of what a women is suppost to be. I am sorry but you, have so much growing up to do it is sad.
That's what wives were-until the Seventies.
 
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December 8, 2005, 11:29 am PST

Not a problem

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I apologize to you for what I said to you a few days ago.  I was in a pissed off mood and being my sometimes abrasive and arrogant self.  Aren't you glad you're not married to me lol? 

  

Anyway I hope you accept my apology.  If not I understand. 

Really I have not problem  with you. I understand we all have those moods...lol. I hope all is going well for you and that all us women aren't driving you too insane...lol 

  

Lovinglady 

 
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December 8, 2005, 11:29 am PST

Now see Jeff....that's not so bad...LOL

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I apologize to you for what I said to you a few days ago.  I was in a pissed off mood and being my sometimes abrasive and arrogant self.  Aren't you glad you're not married to me lol? 

  

Anyway I hope you accept my apology.  If not I understand. 

Now THAT seems to match up with the sweet looking man in your photo more than that negative harsh one.  This is good to see. (smiling here) :) 

  

Luv~   

 
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December 8, 2005, 11:31 am PST

Looking for a foreign girl

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Oh my goodness...Gloria Steinem (?) is at fault for all this crap?  Now we know who to blame...LOL... 

  

Ya know Jimmy, this is a real indication that you might have had some seriously damaging rlsp experiences in the past....and maybe those things have been the determining factors in your life in the present day long enough!       ....you might want to think about getting past some things with forgiveness and just moving on to looking at women differently because this might actually have some benefits in the way you view sex altogther....this could only be a great enhancement in your current rlsp.   

  

I say, more power to ya, Jim, if there are women overseas, those who haven't been corrupted by the "American way" then go for it.  Just make sure you stay there with them....as so they won't "get" Americanized from being here.  We wouldn't want that ya know.  

  

Now to brass tacks.....so does your wife stay out all night with g/fs?  When did this start?  Do you have kids?  How long have you been married?  Is this disconnection in the marriage the reason you had to resort to porn....too much Denny's food? 

  

I totally get what you are saying....so what's really going on with you and your marriage? 

  

Luv 

American women rejected me (you can laugh now) because I didn't have enough cash for them to squander at the mall.  My best experiences are with women from Latin America and Asia-again, real women. 

  

  

 
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December 8, 2005, 11:33 am PST

Yeah

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American women rejected me (you can laugh now) because I didn't have enough cash for them to squander at the mall.  My best experiences are with women from Latin America and Asia-again, real women. 

  

  

You do realize they are using you to get into the US, but yeah if you want someone for 3 years, that is how long they would have to stay with you because at that time they can get their Citizenship and leave, but whatever floats your boat.
 
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December 8, 2005, 11:34 am PST

Don't worship a man-respect him

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That's what wives were-until the Seventies.

You don't have to worship a man.  Just respect him.  Don't lie to him.  Be where you say you're going to be.  Stop spending all our money.  Cook.  Don't flake on us.  Be the old-fashioned girl we wanted. 

 
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December 8, 2005, 11:37 am PST

American women use, too

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You do realize they are using you to get into the US, but yeah if you want someone for 3 years, that is how long they would have to stay with you because at that time they can get their Citizenship and leave, but whatever floats your boat.
American women use men for money-which is funny since they make their own.  Then when they are tired of us, they toss us like a salad container and move on to the next naive fool.
 
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December 8, 2005, 11:37 am PST

Here is the difference

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I have a question for you though.  I believe that you even said that your S/O has decreased his porn use when you started putting mirrors and doing other things that he use to watch.  My question is, how is that not missing something in the relationship?  He wanted to try something different, do something different and he turned to porn because of that and when he told you or you both realized it would be fun is when the porn decreased. 

  

Hope you are doing great. 

I don't look at that as something that is missing, I look at that as a desire that was waiting to be discovered. I understand that there are alot of women who are going to disagree with me, but I don't believe that something is missing just because you haven't discovered it yet. Honestly that is what I mean by the difference between Need and Desire. They are 2 very different things. My husband doesn't look at porn because I am not fulfilling his needs, he looks at porn because he desires to see and watch the act of sex. That is not a reflection of our sex life. I honestly look at it the same as when a man masterbates without porn. Does that mean that you are not fulfilling him? No. It simply means that he is in the mood to have what I call selfish sex. Selfish sex is when he doesn't want to have intercourse, he just wants to get off and then go to sleep. There is nothing wrong with that. Women do that 2, just i different ways. I don't believe porn or masterbation are a reflection of me and our sex together...I believe that there are both forms of desires. A desire to have it be completely about you. And I don't think that is wrong. 

  

Lovinglady 

 
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December 8, 2005, 11:44 am PST

Not laughing Jim....at all....

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American women rejected me (you can laugh now) because I didn't have enough cash for them to squander at the mall.  My best experiences are with women from Latin America and Asia-again, real women. 

  

  

if that was the case...then you just had a streak of bad luck...because there are many wonderful women in this country...(I happen to be one....but happily married).....and I have found that many who believe money is everything, usually end up finding out differently. 

  

Have you considered maybe it's the area, region, that you live in?   

  

I get what you are saying....I have an older son (26) who feels exactly as you do about American women...and is now MARRYING (oh my gosh) A LATIN girl.  As a matter of fact, he just called and has pushed up the wedding...(because they can't wait) to the first of January.   

  

He's explained the entire thing to me at great length....so I understand you opinion about this...however, as with him, I don't think it's about American women so much as it's about the "TYPE" of Amercian women that has been in your focus. 

  

Luv~ 

 
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