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Created on : Friday, July 01, 2005, 05:18:48 pm
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December 8, 2005, 1:46 pm PST

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I have no one to talk to , the porn stuff my hubby of 22 yrs has resorted to, well he got caught again by me he is doing it at work in the car wherever he has a wireless hookup. 

I am so dumb he has totally ignored me for 6 months I have made all the moves, he essentially gave up on me, so I am sure he has resorted to this for a while.I have caught him in the past using porn plus chatting with babes, talk about feeling cheated on, jealous, I wish  he could talk to me, I am very open game for anything and I've let him know that too. 

I am feeling very empty. 

Yes i probably have not tried to hard in the bedroom, life is busy, but I guess I am writing this to make sure I change things. 

He says he's just looking, but he also has a secret email, he will not give me password to. 

Does anyone have any advice for me?  

Sorry for the babble but I am so upset I can't even type or think! 

 
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December 8, 2005, 2:19 pm PST

cheating

Quote From: lovinglady

In the wrong context. The fact is that to cheat on your spouse you have to go and have sex with someone else. Meaning that you are having physical contact with another person. That is not what porn is. As far as I know Porn is used for masterbation, mainly. Having sexual contact with ones own hand. That is not cheating. I personally think that there are way to many words that a thrown around here that are not even being used right.  

  

Just because a man or a woman uses porn alone Does not mean that they are cheating on their spouses. Porn is something alot of couples use together or alone, in no way does that make them any less committed, creative or passionate with one another then a couple that don't use porn.  

  

I don't believe that we as women have the right to make up new meanings for words, to better serve our purposes. If you ask most men they will completely disagree with porn being a form of cheating. I relieze that the relation for many of you is the feeling of beytrayal you all talk about, but trust me that is nothing to the feeling you have when your s/o goes and sleeps or have sexual physical contact with another person.  

  

 I relieze that there are many people here that are againist porn, and that is fine, but there is no reason to resort to name callling and labeling other people as a cheater or an addict. The fact is that I believe there are men you become addictted to sex and there are men who will cheat on there wives but that doesn't just include men who look at porn, and it is not just limited to men. 

  

Lovinglady 

  

P.S. Hi all- Hope everyone is having a good day:) 

is also the word dr phil uses.
 
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December 8, 2005, 2:22 pm PST

It's not a gender thing.

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Thats where I seriously faulter as a human being of the male race.  Its hard for me to apologize to anyone.  Even if I'm wrong.  

  

Have to go for now ladies.  More P.B.'s coming in (Potential Buyers).  Want to at least close 2 more deals before I leave tonight.  Remember:  We are nowhere NEAR as complicated as you women are.  We're very basic and to the point.  Our needs are few and very basic as well.  And........not all of us are meatheads like Jimbo over here.  Some of us are actually decent and loving people.  FYI   

 My wife is the same way. If she has done something that has not worked she will aplogize but not because she did anything wrong. It just didn't work out. Even when I have pre-warned the likelyhood of it working isn't good, it still just didn't work out. If there is need for any making up for it it's then both our responsibiliy for the make up. She has always gotten involved in what she wanted to because she wanted to get involved in it. Even if it's more of a hinderence to us, as long as there is something in it for her, she will pursue it until she no longer gets anything out of it.

It's not an arrognace thing, it's a vanity thing. It's the need to not be wrong.

So my friend, it's not just a male thing.
 
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December 8, 2005, 2:29 pm PST

jim

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Men and women were doing fine until Gloria Steinem came into the picture.  Now, men have become women and women have become aggressive.  I tried the "nice guy" approach for YEARS.  It doesn't work.  Women tend to flake out on dates and cheat.   My favorite excuse is: "Oh!  He's just an old friend!" 

  

 As per the old Alice Cooper tune: "No More Mr. Nice Guy".  If an American woman doesn't take her rightful place in the relationship, guys like myself can always go overseas or South of the Border where men are treated like the Kings that we are.  This is happening on an increasing frequency. 

  

Another old tune comes to mind: Santana's "You've Got To Change Your Evil Ways".  He hit it right on the head.  Wives aren't supposed to be out all hours with their girlfriends.  They are supposed to be homemakers and cooking our dinner.  We guys are sick of going to Denny's.  We want REAL FOOD. 

do you go by another name here on the phil board....you seem so familar!
 
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December 8, 2005, 2:30 pm PST

like i said before

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just because something is bad....doesn't mean that there isn't something worse out there.
 
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December 8, 2005, 2:35 pm PST

How Porn Has Affected Our Relationship

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I have no one to talk to , the porn stuff my hubby of 22 yrs has resorted to, well he got caught again by me he is doing it at work in the car wherever he has a wireless hookup. 

I am so dumb he has totally ignored me for 6 months I have made all the moves, he essentially gave up on me, so I am sure he has resorted to this for a while.I have caught him in the past using porn plus chatting with babes, talk about feeling cheated on, jealous, I wish  he could talk to me, I am very open game for anything and I've let him know that too. 

I am feeling very empty. 

Yes i probably have not tried to hard in the bedroom, life is busy, but I guess I am writing this to make sure I change things. 

He says he's just looking, but he also has a secret email, he will not give me password to. 

Does anyone have any advice for me?  

Sorry for the babble but I am so upset I can't even type or think! 

 "Yes i probably have not tried to hard in the bedroom, life is busy" just may be a clue. And, it's a good thing "but I guess I am writing this to make sure I change things."

Advice? Have you talked to him about this. I mean really talked. Not chided, not scolded, not tried to get him to stop for no other reason than you are hurt by this. There is a very good chance he has been hurt by your lack of interest. It would seem that life's busyness has been more important than he is. It seems like he can find the time in all that busyness.

I don't agree with the emails and other chatting with "babes". I just wonder if his communications involve talking to them for emotional support rather than sex talk.

I notice you said "the porn stuff my hubby of 22 yrs has resorted to".

You weren't "babbleing". Yours in one of the shorter posts involving this type of upset.
 
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December 8, 2005, 2:42 pm PST

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 "Yes i probably have not tried to hard in the bedroom, life is busy" just may be a clue. And, it's a good thing "but I guess I am writing this to make sure I change things."

Advice? Have you talked to him about this. I mean really talked. Not chided, not scolded, not tried to get him to stop for no other reason than you are hurt by this. There is a very good chance he has been hurt by your lack of interest. It would seem that life's busyness has been more important than he is. It seems like he can find the time in all that busyness.

I don't agree with the emails and other chatting with "babes". I just wonder if his communications involve talking to them for emotional support rather than sex talk.

I notice you said "the porn stuff my hubby of 22 yrs has resorted to".

You weren't "babbleing". Yours in one of the shorter posts involving this type of upset.

Allinall when he says that you should talk to him, I completely dont think it is correct that he has ignored you or that he is chatting with other people. 

  

Also remember that you are not the only person in this relationship, he also has to be willing to meet you half way with things. 

 
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December 8, 2005, 3:17 pm PST

How Porn Has Affected Our Relationship

Quote From: lovinglady

I hope you ind your slave...opps...I mean woman there. Whatever floats your boat.
Great attitude.  That's why I can't stand American women.  Instead of proving they aren't the stereotype, all they can do is fling insults.
 
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December 8, 2005, 3:18 pm PST

How Porn Has Affected Our Relationship

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do you go by another name here on the phil board....you seem so familar!
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December 8, 2005, 3:20 pm PST

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Quote From: susaneliz

I have no one to talk to , the porn stuff my hubby of 22 yrs has resorted to, well he got caught again by me he is doing it at work in the car wherever he has a wireless hookup. 

I am so dumb he has totally ignored me for 6 months I have made all the moves, he essentially gave up on me, so I am sure he has resorted to this for a while.I have caught him in the past using porn plus chatting with babes, talk about feeling cheated on, jealous, I wish  he could talk to me, I am very open game for anything and I've let him know that too. 

I am feeling very empty. 

Yes i probably have not tried to hard in the bedroom, life is busy, but I guess I am writing this to make sure I change things. 

He says he's just looking, but he also has a secret email, he will not give me password to. 

Does anyone have any advice for me?  

Sorry for the babble but I am so upset I can't even type or think! 

As a guy, I can say that men don't resort to porn unless they have a good reason to.
 
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