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January 3, 2006, 9:07 am PST

Morning Loving

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Just wanted to say good morning to you all. 

Darcy, Bae, Kimi, K..C. , Allinall and of course Jeff. 

I hope this year is looking up for all of you. 

Have a hell of a start to mine...lol. Was in the emergency room with my husband, He had a really serious stomache infection, it was so scarry. He is doing much better now though and I am so glad. Anyway, I just wanted to say hi 

  

Lovinglady 

 Hope you had a good holiday and the New Year is looking up thus far.
 
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January 3, 2006, 9:11 am PST

You say

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 I will start with little background information on myself.  I am 23 years old, currently pursuing my masters degree with one semester left to go.  I relocated over a year ago to go to school, and I was fortunate enough to find affordable arrangements living in a house with the owner,
who rents out four of his bedrooms.  Some months ago, one of the other tenants and I began a relationship, and we have now been together 9 months.  I guess you could say that things have become serious, considering we lived together for the entire time.  He is 27 and is a school health and phys ed teacher.

The issue that concerns me is that he frequents pornography on the internet.  I had no idea this was going on until the end of July when he masturbated for an entire hour while I was in the house.  I had never experienced a situation like this before, and I had no idea what was going on at first.  He had gone into his room and locked his door (and we never lock doors in this house), and I went down a couple of times to see what he was doing, because I had no idea!  However, the second time I went to his door and he opened it, I could visually see and realize what was going on.  He later apologized the following evening, not for masturbating or viewing the porn, but for being 'sloppy' in that I was right down the hall.

However, this situation has occurred more often than not.  If I go out and come back home, I usually walk in on the situation.  If I come home early from my classes, I enter the situation.  One morning I went to brunch with a friend, and I came home with her, and the two of us entered the situation, which was extremely embarrassing.  It's not that anything is lacking in our physical relationship, because we are very active together, although the relationship may have been affected possibly three or four times (which I attribute to him watching porn prior).  However, the frequency of this has concerned me.  He will look at porn for at least an hour and a half or more, and there will be over one hundred sites viewed in a given situation.  At first, I took it personally, as I think every girl would if they have never experienced it before.  However, this has occurred so often, that I have simply become tired of it.  He gets mad at me for coming home early, which I don't have control of.  

I think my question is, what is normal in a relationship?  I understand that yes, guys look at porn and masturbate, however what is an acceptable amount, and what is an acceptable frequency?  Am I being oversensitive, or should I be more concerned of a problem?  I have looked to make sure there was nothing illegal going on, which was good to know.  However, I just don't understand why he needs to view pornography so frequently.   I have tried to talk to him about it, to just settle things in my head, because I obviously do not think the same way as being a female.  However, me discussing it with him causes frustration.  I have been advised to offer to participate with him, and so I have offered on two occasions, but he said it would be too much work.  I have tried to be understanding, however, I simply am tired of experiencing this situation.  He wants to move out and he wants me to go with him, and although I had seriously considered it, I am now thinking I would be a fool to willfully put myself in the same situation that upsets me.

Please do tell me, is this normal?  I think I have lost all understanding of what is normal and what is not normal.  He loves me very much, and I love him as well, however I have thought of ending the relationship a few times based on this, but I am not sure if that is the right reason.

Thank you so much for your time.  I can't tell you how much it means to
me...I just need to put my feelings in order.  Thank you!
 you and a girlfriend walked in on him. Was he "busy" or was he just viewing?

Another point that you have to investigate is why this upsets you so. Be very truthful with yourself. You need to find out what is so troubling to you before you can effectively deal with it.
 
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January 3, 2006, 9:21 am PST

Happy New Year and welcome

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 I will start with little background information on myself.  I am 23 years old, currently pursuing my masters degree with one semester left to go.  I relocated over a year ago to go to school, and I was fortunate enough to find affordable arrangements living in a house with the owner,
who rents out four of his bedrooms.  Some months ago, one of the other tenants and I began a relationship, and we have now been together 9 months.  I guess you could say that things have become serious, considering we lived together for the entire time.  He is 27 and is a school health and phys ed teacher.

The issue that concerns me is that he frequents pornography on the internet.  I had no idea this was going on until the end of July when he masturbated for an entire hour while I was in the house.  I had never experienced a situation like this before, and I had no idea what was going on at first.  He had gone into his room and locked his door (and we never lock doors in this house), and I went down a couple of times to see what he was doing, because I had no idea!  However, the second time I went to his door and he opened it, I could visually see and realize what was going on.  He later apologized the following evening, not for masturbating or viewing the porn, but for being 'sloppy' in that I was right down the hall.

However, this situation has occurred more often than not.  If I go out and come back home, I usually walk in on the situation.  If I come home early from my classes, I enter the situation.  One morning I went to brunch with a friend, and I came home with her, and the two of us entered the situation, which was extremely embarrassing.  It's not that anything is lacking in our physical relationship, because we are very active together, although the relationship may have been affected possibly three or four times (which I attribute to him watching porn prior).  However, the frequency of this has concerned me.  He will look at porn for at least an hour and a half or more, and there will be over one hundred sites viewed in a given situation.  At first, I took it personally, as I think every girl would if they have never experienced it before.  However, this has occurred so often, that I have simply become tired of it.  He gets mad at me for coming home early, which I don't have control of.  

I think my question is, what is normal in a relationship?  I understand that yes, guys look at porn and masturbate, however what is an acceptable amount, and what is an acceptable frequency?  Am I being oversensitive, or should I be more concerned of a problem?  I have looked to make sure there was nothing illegal going on, which was good to know.  However, I just don't understand why he needs to view pornography so frequently.   I have tried to talk to him about it, to just settle things in my head, because I obviously do not think the same way as being a female.  However, me discussing it with him causes frustration.  I have been advised to offer to participate with him, and so I have offered on two occasions, but he said it would be too much work.  I have tried to be understanding, however, I simply am tired of experiencing this situation.  He wants to move out and he wants me to go with him, and although I had seriously considered it, I am now thinking I would be a fool to willfully put myself in the same situation that upsets me.

Please do tell me, is this normal?  I think I have lost all understanding of what is normal and what is not normal.  He loves me very much, and I love him as well, however I have thought of ending the relationship a few times based on this, but I am not sure if that is the right reason.

Thank you so much for your time.  I can't tell you how much it means to
me...I just need to put my feelings in order.  Thank you!

Many people dont care about whether there is porn in their relationship, but every relationship is different.  I personally would have a huge red flag flying in my face that he is getting pissed at you for coming home early, dont you live there too and that he wants to do this by himself and he stated that it takes to much time, hello he spends, as you have said, like an hour or more, what the heck is that about, granted that is just me.   

  

You also have feelings and needs, and if he is not even willing to talk about it or anything, I would stick with what my gut is telling me.  

  

  

 
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January 3, 2006, 9:27 am PST

What's with

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Hi everyone, 

I haven't gone back and read over all the posts but it's kind of funny that i came on here to ask a question about how frequently is enough sex in a marriage (I am aware that there is prob. no amount that would be too much to a man)and the very last post on here was a man saying that his wife or significant other doesn't and never has given him enough sex. What is a healthy, normal amount of sex within a marriage. I know that my hubby doesn't want me to oblige him when I'm not into it, he only wants me to be with him when I'm in the mood. It's just I hear the way men talk and complain and wonder if I am satifying my husband or if he is meerly content with the number of times we are together. I have 4 young children and the youngest who is 19 months still wakes up around 3 times a night. I am tired a lot at night and find it difficult to run upstairs for a romp in the hay in the afternoon when the kids are playing or watching a video. Which he seems to expect me to do. It's not that I don't want to be with him more....life is just really backwards lately and we haven't been together as much as we used to be. I worry that although there really isn't much that I can do about it right now that he may start feeling unsatisfied and turn outside our marriage to porn. More than being afraid of porn I am devestated by the thought that I may not be satisfying my husband. I really don't know how to deal with this. Any input ANYONE has would be appreciated.....men please let me know your views (even if you don't think I'll like what I hear) about frequency of intimacy in marriage. 

Thanks 

 the being devistated? Disappointed, disallusioned, confused, bewildered, okay. Why devistated?

No two people are going to be perfectly sexually in sync. The pleasure comes from the satisfaction of being and giving satisfaction. To enjoy that each has been willing and able to satisfy. Not satiate...satisfy.

There is no set number or frequency. There is no "normal" amount. Of course he only wants you to be with him when your in the mood. He wants sex to be a mutual desire. Too many times one may cooperate only to satisfy the other, only to have that come up later as an "I did you that favor, why can't that be enough". And, isn' t it that you had and have a problem with him and porn usage?, so there is an existing problem with individual gratification. True?

He is having "sexual desires" that frankly may be a misinterperatation of connection (with you) desires. Check that out.
 
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January 3, 2006, 9:30 am PST

hello lovinglady

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Just wanted to say good morning to you all. 

Darcy, Bae, Kimi, K..C. , Allinall and of course Jeff. 

I hope this year is looking up for all of you. 

Have a hell of a start to mine...lol. Was in the emergency room with my husband, He had a really serious stomache infection, it was so scarry. He is doing much better now though and I am so glad. Anyway, I just wanted to say hi 

  

Lovinglady 

I just got back from my daughter's surgery to have her wisdom teeth removed. She is pretty funny coming too because she talks and know one knows what she is saying and she is very testy. It is her first time to experience anything like this. But on the sad note it is hard to see my little girl be all weirded out. (not much of a little girl since she is 19...but always little to mommy). 

  

I am getting a massage (hey kimi ...I wish you were closer). My neck and shoulders are bothering me today. Too much using my camera I think (plus I keep reinjuring my neck area from being rear ended years ago). The last time I had a massage it helped. If it doesn't help...I am going to go to the chiropractor later this week. I hope I feel better later (after the massage) because i have another game tonight. 

  

Sorry to hear your husband had an e.r. visit. I think over the years I have heard so many people say they had to visit the e.r. over new years. I think we all seem to eat something or drink something that doesn't agree. I spent New Years (two years ago) at the Cleveland Clinic with my dying grandmother. Not my funnest New Years I must say. 

  

Well...I have to go check on the girl. I think she is asleep. 

  

see ya! 

 
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January 3, 2006, 9:34 am PST

What a New Year

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Just wanted to say good morning to you all. 

Darcy, Bae, Kimi, K..C. , Allinall and of course Jeff. 

I hope this year is looking up for all of you. 

Have a hell of a start to mine...lol. Was in the emergency room with my husband, He had a really serious stomache infection, it was so scarry. He is doing much better now though and I am so glad. Anyway, I just wanted to say hi 

  

Lovinglady 

I am glad to hear that he is doing okay.  Was it just the bug or something else?
 
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January 3, 2006, 9:49 am PST

Where I'm coming from on this

I am not an expert on this subject,  but I don't think the hurt comes simply from the pornography.  I think it comes from other things,  maybe that he or she isn't being satisfied in the relationship.  Maybe he or she feels inadequate and is thus forth passed aside for the night,  in favor of a pay site.  I could see that cutting someone pretty deep.  The pornography itself probably isn't the big picture,  because a lot of people actually enjoy that sort of material together.  I think it's not being included!  I think that's the problem,  more times than not!  And that's just my logic,  I haven't been in a relationship,  but this is just my sense.

As far as pornography in general goes,   you know it is a constant struggle for a lot of people.  Pornography is addicting.  And from my viewpoint,  it is enslaving.  It isn't liberating at all.  Some frown upon pornography,  some don't.  Being a Christian,  I frown upon pornography.  However,  I do not treat anyone poorly for their lifestyle choices.  Persecution never helped anyone,  and it most certainly isn't going to change anyone's stance on pornography!  I don't use my time on such things,  what you do in the privacy of your home is your own business. 
 
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January 3, 2006, 9:50 am PST

Does it really

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 you and a girlfriend walked in on him. Was he "busy" or was he just viewing?

Another point that you have to investigate is why this upsets you so. Be very truthful with yourself. You need to find out what is so troubling to you before you can effectively deal with it.
matter if he was viewing or was busy, who really cares.   I dont really see the difference.
 
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January 3, 2006, 10:10 am PST

Hi Darcy.!!! Happy New Year!!!!!

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I just got back from my daughter's surgery to have her wisdom teeth removed. She is pretty funny coming too because she talks and know one knows what she is saying and she is very testy. It is her first time to experience anything like this. But on the sad note it is hard to see my little girl be all weirded out. (not much of a little girl since she is 19...but always little to mommy). 

  

I am getting a massage (hey kimi ...I wish you were closer). My neck and shoulders are bothering me today. Too much using my camera I think (plus I keep reinjuring my neck area from being rear ended years ago). The last time I had a massage it helped. If it doesn't help...I am going to go to the chiropractor later this week. I hope I feel better later (after the massage) because i have another game tonight. 

  

Sorry to hear your husband had an e.r. visit. I think over the years I have heard so many people say they had to visit the e.r. over new years. I think we all seem to eat something or drink something that doesn't agree. I spent New Years (two years ago) at the Cleveland Clinic with my dying grandmother. Not my funnest New Years I must say. 

  

Well...I have to go check on the girl. I think she is asleep. 

  

see ya! 

How are you? How is your daughter holding up? Just think of the beautiful smile she will have after all is said and done!!! Hang in there. I know it must be hard to have to sit and watch her in pain. Hang tough :) 

  

I just want to say to please be careful when you go for the massage. Make sure you tell your therapist that you had a neck injury because if you have any side effects like a disk injury, massage might impinge on some nerves and then you will be in a lot of pain. I have seen people "forget" to tell the massage therapist about a car accident and the next day they are in spasms. So please make sure to let them know, ok? I would not want anything to happen to you. Thanks. 

  

I wish I lived closer too....That would be real cool. It's snowing and sleeting where I live. Took the day off. I am listening to WBAI radio. Armand Demiele. If you ever get a chance, check out the web site. I am sure you would love it. Well, I better go for now. Kimi 

 
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January 3, 2006, 10:20 am PST

Baejouy.....deja vu

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Many people dont care about whether there is porn in their relationship, but every relationship is different.  I personally would have a huge red flag flying in my face that he is getting pissed at you for coming home early, dont you live there too and that he wants to do this by himself and he stated that it takes to much time, hello he spends, as you have said, like an hour or more, what the heck is that about, granted that is just me.   

  

You also have feelings and needs, and if he is not even willing to talk about it or anything, I would stick with what my gut is telling me.  

  

  

Your post reminded me of something. Ugh. My husband used to get mad at me for coming home unexpected too. He works five minutes from the house, I work 1/2 hour but sometimes I come home because I could not get in touch with him (before cell phone) or if I needed something for the evening, and he would be doing his thing. He also would spend enormous time on the phone (having phone sex I later found out). 

  

The reason he would get mad was because I busted him. He probably felt like I was an intrusion, instead of someone that lives there! After all, I was the intrusion; I was intruding on his masturbating and lusting over porn stars.  

  

Sometimes people have an insatible sex drive. In my opinion, having an enormous sex drive does not mean you need to be touching yourself all day either.  

 
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