Topic : Pornography

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February 7, 2006, 10:04 am PST

This is just one example jeff.....

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I'm thinking one day I'll outgrow it (porn).  That I'll become bored with it because I'm having such a kick-ass sexual relationship with my wife.  Or, maybe I won't ever become bored with it because I may not be having the kick-ass sexual relationship with my wife that I want to have.  To all the ladies:  Men don't always look at porn to masturbate and come.  Sometimes we watch porn just because it produces such a euphoric mental (and umm physical) high.  It's absolutely so enjoyable to look at because the womens bodies are so beautiful and so sexy as are some of their faces.   

   

 

Personally, most of the times that I use porn, I have no intention of masturbating.  I just watch it so I can feel that high that I get when I see these girls looking so awesome and doing things that make them look so sexy.....and the way that it arouses me instantaneously.  Also because it's main purpose is to arouse me is arousing in itself.  Other times, I use it because I want to follow through with my arousal.  When marriages are good (lots of sex going on, love, affection and spouses are fit and attractive), then most men would want to become aroused by and follow through their arousal with their wives, who are real and not a video. 

   

 

But when marriages are not good (barely or no sex going on, lukewarm love, no affection and spouses aren't attractive or fit), then most men would rather NOT become aroused by their wives because their attitude about sex sucks, they have something about them that is a turn off or they're out of shape; and most would rather not follow through their arousal with their wives because of a) their attitude b) they don't make themselves available or c) they may be unattractive or unsexy.  In any (or all) of these instances, most men go to porn to follow through with their arousals to enjoy having orgasms that stimulate their minds, their bodies and their fantasies.  That is not to say that wives can't do this for their husbands, because they can - if they really wanted to.  Unfortunately though, most don't.  They expect us to fulfill our part of the bargain (marriage) and yet some do not fulfill theirs. 

   

 

Warning: A wife who isn't enthusiastic about regular, hot sex with her husband is a woman who dangerously pushes her husband towards actions or situations that she may find objectionable or offensive.           

 

          

Did you think of your own marriage or wife when writing this one?   

  

Did it even cross your mind that she might come here and see this?  

  

Did you even CARE that this could happen? 

  

I didn't think so..... 

  

Luv~ 

 
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February 7, 2006, 10:18 am PST

Did you read the latest on the porn industry......

LAWYERS FOR THE PORN INDUSTRY ARE GEERING UP TO FIGHT THE NEWEST REGULATIONS THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS VOTING INTO LAW..... 

  

The reason is this law would require (law 2257) that the entire porn industry would actually be required to do record keeping on all adult entertainment workers.  These stats would include AGE< BIRTH RECORD< Names and alias's to PREVENT THE UP TO 10 MILLION CHILD ACTORS BEING EXPOITED inside the ADULT ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY TODAY.  That means UNDER AGE people folks. 

  

The porn industries main argument (I love this one)....THE COST IT WOULD TAKE TO RECORD KEEP AND KEEP UP WITH THIS INFORMATION even though it's to protect CHILDREN.  They (porn lawyers) have said it's NOT THE PORN INDUSTRIES' JOB to enforce whether or not YOUNG UNDER AGE GIRLS get into porn or not. 

  

Luv~  Nice ugh????? 

 
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February 7, 2006, 10:19 am PST

maybe we shouldn't be writing to jeff

maybe our focus should turn to his wife Jen in any likelyhood that she will come here and read his post. I can't imagine being someone's wife and reading his post. I can't imagine how devistating it would be to find out all the things he thinks and believes. 

  

Jen....I hope you don't come here. But then again....maybe it is the wake up call you need. Maybe it is exactly what is needed at this point.  

  

jeff....is porn really worth the devistation that your wife will be left with? and if it is....that's too bad. 

 
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February 7, 2006, 10:37 am PST

I tried

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So if for instance my husband is the "bread winner" and I am the home maker....or domestic goddess, as I like to call it.   Not that this has anything to do with this other than right now he's the primary supporter of the house.  But say, for instance, that I have a real shopping problem.  It's NOT a problem for me, or his income to handle, but he doesn't "approve of" my spending.  And because I have some "savings" of my own, I choose to spend that savings on my shopping slurges.  Say this irritates him a lot, because my purchases are mostly for me or the house and I just don't "ask" for his approval on these purchases.  So I keep doing this, inspite of his dislike of it.....is this his perception that this is wrong?  Is this his "fear" that I might spend all the savings that I previously saved out of my own paychecks?  What does that "fear" come from....fear that since his current income just covers the bills and that me spending "MY" savings could potentially hinder our (his) retirement?  

  

If I didn't care about his concerns or maybe just "listened" to his concerns but did nothing to stop my endless shopping.....should this continue to bother him?  Even if in reality this doesnt' affect anything in my opinion?   

  

Another scenario....say for instance that a wife likes her big enormous dildo and she liked this so much that she started to turn him down for sex...claiming to be too tired....or to involved with other things...only for him to find out later, quit by accident, that she's really been using this huge dildo for months on end...almost nightly.  Would his "concern" be more about "his perception" of what this is really about....could it be that she got so "hooked on" the big one ( oh my_)... And his concerns that HE no longer pleased her sexually are unfounded, because when they do have sex, however rarely...she's "seemingly" pleased with him?  Then say she found it a lot less "messy" to please herself rather than to waste the energy on him.....could this become a "fear" of his that he is no longer a desire of hers..because the dildo use privately was far more fulfilling than he is.  Perhaps he would develope the fear that maybe he's not lasting as long as he used to....and this too becomes a concern...even though it's only really in his head and not something she has said to him???  

  

And should he one day voice his opinion of this...should she just say to him...that his "fears" are unjustified, almost rediculous and that this is just his perception of what is happening...it's in his mind only and that she really doesn't care about his thoughts on it.  After wall it's her body and her dildo and she should be able to do what she wants no matter how it affects him?   

  

All these "things" can become "fears" out of someone perception of what is taking place....and from what I gather you are saying that we, as couples, married people...should just not care or be concerned with how the choices we make affect another human being, much less our marriage partners.... 

  

Hummm, maybe lesbians have something....and it's starting to make some sense here. LOL 

  

Luv 

 to answer this before I left for a while and got times out. I'll see if I can when I get back.
 
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February 7, 2006, 10:40 am PST

Oh let's

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LAWYERS FOR THE PORN INDUSTRY ARE GEERING UP TO FIGHT THE NEWEST REGULATIONS THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS VOTING INTO LAW..... 

  

The reason is this law would require (law 2257) that the entire porn industry would actually be required to do record keeping on all adult entertainment workers.  These stats would include AGE< BIRTH RECORD< Names and alias's to PREVENT THE UP TO 10 MILLION CHILD ACTORS BEING EXPOITED inside the ADULT ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY TODAY.  That means UNDER AGE people folks. 

  

The porn industries main argument (I love this one)....THE COST IT WOULD TAKE TO RECORD KEEP AND KEEP UP WITH THIS INFORMATION even though it's to protect CHILDREN.  They (porn lawyers) have said it's NOT THE PORN INDUSTRIES' JOB to enforce whether or not YOUNG UNDER AGE GIRLS get into porn or not. 

  

Luv  Nice ugh????? 

 talk about lawyers later. Remember my SIL is one. There are now lawyers who are insisting our rights under the Constitution are determinable by the powers that be...not the law itself.

Later I gotta go.
 
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February 7, 2006, 11:08 am PST

Oh, I don't need to talk about lawyers....

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 talk about lawyers later. Remember my SIL is one. There are now lawyers who are insisting our rights under the Constitution are determinable by the powers that be...not the law itself.

Later I gotta go.

I just got this off he legal "wires" so it's news, that's all.  It's the legal teams that defend the porn industry who want to fight the new regulatory laws pertaining to protecting children/minors. 

  

This being introduced, alone, clearly acknowledges that in FACT the "ADULT" entertainment world does not specifically hire or "use" only adult actors.  IN FACT, the don't check anything other than a photo ID, just like the world of strip clubs also does NOT check for birth dates.  If a young girl the age of 14, or whatever, walks in with a photo ID...she's as good as "gold" to "act" or strip inside a club.  The "industry" also does not take ANY responsibility when they are caught or notified that a minor is inside their fold. 

  

The whole thing is YOU or anyone out their scoping out porn have no clue what aged the person is you (anyone) is looking at performing sex acts.  And the porn industry really could care-a-less. 

  

Luv~ 

 
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February 7, 2006, 11:50 am PST

How Porn Has Affected Our Relationship

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I have a question for you, because I was driving this weekend and I was thinking about my past relationship and I realized that when porn was there, I never felt bad about myself, because heck I know I am good looking, what I started to question was him.  I started to see him in a different light, not me.  I started to see him as someone that wasnt at all like me.  Even though I was in my early 20s and so was he it didnt stop me thinking about what really would stop him for looking at someone younger then the so called legal age, even though the US truly has no way to monitor what comes into the US etc etc etc, even though people are naive to think they can monitor everything.  I started to see him as someone that didnt respect women.  The only time I questioned myself, was why I was stupid enough to be with someone that was like that.  That if we had such a wonderful open relationship, then he would have been able to tell me anything, but that wasnt the case.  That was the only time I questioned me and that was more along the lines of what the heck was I thinking. 

  

So my question is, are you truly questioning how you look or is there something more to it?  It took me awhile to realize that, but things that come into your head when you have to drive for a long time. 

I had questioned him while I was pregnant and after I had our son.  He had changed jobs and at his new job there was a cleaning girl.  Our son was a little less than a year old when a girl pulled out infront of me one day on my way home.  My husband was in front of me and when I started ranting and raving about it, he seemed to know more about the girl and her sister (they took turns cleaning the place he worked at) than what I thought that he should know.  Everytime I would say anything about it he would get really defensive and tell me he was tired of me always going down that road and always blamed it on PMS.  He assured me over and over again that he had done nothing with either one so I had to believe him, without any proof or catching him in the act what else could a person do. 

He also has a tendency to check out any girl in tight jeans and shirt when we are shopping together.  That always makes me angry. 

All of those factors plus the porn has not done much for my self esteem.   

 
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February 7, 2006, 11:54 am PST

will it ever go away

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Not sure how this works now. Guess we'll all learn together! Welcome back!

hi, everyone, new to the board.  i will try to get this right.  i have been married for 7 years and been with my husband 11 years and have a 5 year old daughter.  when i met my husband he used to go to strip bars with his friends and watch porn all the time, but after we moved in together he basically stopped going out to the strip clubs or would ask my permission and would respect it if i said no.  but my husband has a unbelievable  collection of porn tapes i would say about 500 or so and he has it on the computer too.  he can not sit down at a computer with out looking at it.  but i am having great difficulty with the mastubation part.  he does it all the time, at night, when i am at work, then i catch him.  I have asked him why, and said he is sorry it hurts me but it should not. it hurts me and belittles me to no point.  he says he can't stop and i should not be upset.  but i can't do this any more.  i am not against porn, but i do belive if a man is going to watch it, it should be with his wife and sex between the both of us is great on both ends he says.  but he also says he is very sexually driven and if he is horny he should be able to pleasure himself anytime.  i need some advice, please help?  ready to wash my hands of this awfull cheating habit.  am i worng should i be more understandable? 

spots29 

 
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February 7, 2006, 12:00 pm PST

Okay, now I can respond

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So if for instance my husband is the "bread winner" and I am the home maker....or domestic goddess, as I like to call it.   Not that this has anything to do with this other than right now he's the primary supporter of the house.  But say, for instance, that I have a real shopping problem.  It's NOT a problem for me, or his income to handle, but he doesn't "approve of" my spending.  And because I have some "savings" of my own, I choose to spend that savings on my shopping slurges.  Say this irritates him a lot, because my purchases are mostly for me or the house and I just don't "ask" for his approval on these purchases.  So I keep doing this, inspite of his dislike of it.....is this his perception that this is wrong?  Is this his "fear" that I might spend all the savings that I previously saved out of my own paychecks?  What does that "fear" come from....fear that since his current income just covers the bills and that me spending "MY" savings could potentially hinder our (his) retirement?  

  

If I didn't care about his concerns or maybe just "listened" to his concerns but did nothing to stop my endless shopping.....should this continue to bother him?  Even if in reality this doesnt' affect anything in my opinion?   

  

Another scenario....say for instance that a wife likes her big enormous dildo and she liked this so much that she started to turn him down for sex...claiming to be too tired....or to involved with other things...only for him to find out later, quit by accident, that she's really been using this huge dildo for months on end...almost nightly.  Would his "concern" be more about "his perception" of what this is really about....could it be that she got so "hooked on" the big one ( oh my_)... And his concerns that HE no longer pleased her sexually are unfounded, because when they do have sex, however rarely...she's "seemingly" pleased with him?  Then say she found it a lot less "messy" to please herself rather than to waste the energy on him.....could this become a "fear" of his that he is no longer a desire of hers..because the dildo use privately was far more fulfilling than he is.  Perhaps he would develope the fear that maybe he's not lasting as long as he used to....and this too becomes a concern...even though it's only really in his head and not something she has said to him???  

  

And should he one day voice his opinion of this...should she just say to him...that his "fears" are unjustified, almost rediculous and that this is just his perception of what is happening...it's in his mind only and that she really doesn't care about his thoughts on it.  After wall it's her body and her dildo and she should be able to do what she wants no matter how it affects him?   

  

All these "things" can become "fears" out of someone perception of what is taking place....and from what I gather you are saying that we, as couples, married people...should just not care or be concerned with how the choices we make affect another human being, much less our marriage partners.... 

  

Hummm, maybe lesbians have something....and it's starting to make some sense here. LOL 

  

Luv 

 These secerios are perfect examples of the tangible and the intangible.

Keep in mind that I have never said nor intimated that rejection of the other in preference for "replacement" sexual gratification is acceptable. NEVER. Also keep in mind that there have been those who have come on here and said how their sex life was satisfactory to great until they discovered the extracorricular activity. It was only the discovery of the extracorricular that caused the sex life to fail and the one who discovered it was who rejected the sex life from then on.

Money is a tangible that is needed to build and sustain health, safety and security. A finite non-self regenerating commodity. It can be used up. Once it's gone it's gone. More has to be worked for to replace what has been used up.The absence of money will tangibly affect both people.One or both will have to do without because of the actions of one. The one using up the money over the other is the one gaining the most advantage of it.

On to the dildo. Keep in mind this also reflects on porn use. If the man has been satsified with the sex life and then discovers the dildo, it is imparitive to talk with her about her need for it. It may just be a size issue that from time to time she wants to fulfill a fantasy of what he physically can not. It is up to him to realize that he can not increase his size and it just may be something that fills, from time to time, what he is physically unable to. I don't know of any men who would not care enough about this sexual style, to being excited about, not wanting to assist her in this type of fantasy. Remembering that she has not up to this time rejected him in favor of the dildo.

Just as I reject any man using porn to replace sexual interaction with his wife.

A little side bar here; did she "discover" the dildo while shopping for perfume? I haven't seen dildos in "normal" stores.

If the sex life has been satisfactory to great to this point, what about that has actually been lost by this dildo discovery?

I'm not saying that I reject that people are going to feel an initial feeling of diminished sexual worth. It is up to the person to descern if that feeling reflects the actual or not. And if there has been no rejection in the past, what has been actually lost here?

None of what I have said here is going to apply to anyone who is so puritanical as to believe the other is not supposed to achieve any sexual gratification without them supplying it for the other.
 
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February 7, 2006, 12:02 pm PST

if you aren't happy with it

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hi, everyone, new to the board.  i will try to get this right.  i have been married for 7 years and been with my husband 11 years and have a 5 year old daughter.  when i met my husband he used to go to strip bars with his friends and watch porn all the time, but after we moved in together he basically stopped going out to the strip clubs or would ask my permission and would respect it if i said no.  but my husband has a unbelievable  collection of porn tapes i would say about 500 or so and he has it on the computer too.  he can not sit down at a computer with out looking at it.  but i am having great difficulty with the mastubation part.  he does it all the time, at night, when i am at work, then i catch him.  I have asked him why, and said he is sorry it hurts me but it should not. it hurts me and belittles me to no point.  he says he can't stop and i should not be upset.  but i can't do this any more.  i am not against porn, but i do belive if a man is going to watch it, it should be with his wife and sex between the both of us is great on both ends he says.  but he also says he is very sexually driven and if he is horny he should be able to pleasure himself anytime.  i need some advice, please help?  ready to wash my hands of this awfull cheating habit.  am i worng should i be more understandable? 

spots29 

isn't that all that matters? You don't need me or anyone to tell you to be okay with this or to not be okay with this.  

 

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