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March 13, 2006, 2:18 pm PST

How hasn't it affected our marriage?

How porn has affected my marriage.  Well..........  I start by saying that it has affected it alot.  We haven't had sex in over 8 years.  My husband always told me "I don't want to have  sex"  and then I find him watching a porn flick or reading a porn book.  When we were first dating he took me out of town to meet his family and he took me to a xxx rated motel to stay over night.  I didn't think it was all that great.  During the course of our marriage we've battled the issue of porn alot.  I've had to clean all the porn out of our house.  My husband would hide it or justify it by saying it was ok to have it.  He's said that reading it's no big deal.  He's told me that "It's just something to read".  I've told him that porn is taking something special as sex and turned it into something dirty.  He didn't by it.  I've told him that he's addicted to it.  He's denied that.  I found a counselor who would help him and he refused to go.  One year friends of ours wanted us to go with them on our motorcycles to california to a cool motorcycle convention.  Well......................  My husband lost his job as janitor at our local church.  He was caught reading porn on the church internet.   And that was the end of our trip.  At home I have a block on our computer so he can't read porn.  I am so tired of porn in my life that I could scream!  You ask why did I marry him knowing this.  Well...............  I was blind to it and he was convincing that it was just a hobby.  Well I am no fool.  The message I would send to anyone who is dating someone with porn issues is RUN like hell..........  If it's not dealth with you'll battle it all of your marriage.  You feel undesirable when he doesn't want to have sex.  You'll never trust him, he'll lie about doing it and it will be one of the things you fight alot in your marriage.  It's a real hard additction to cure.   

 
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March 13, 2006, 2:18 pm PST

How hasn't it affected our marriage?

How porn has affected my marriage.  Well..........  I start by saying that it has affected it alot.  We haven't had sex in over 8 years.  My husband always told me "I don't want to have  sex"  and then I find him watching a porn flick or reading a porn book.  When we were first dating he took me out of town to meet his family and he took me to a xxx rated motel to stay over night.  I didn't think it was all that great.  During the course of our marriage we've battled the issue of porn alot.  I've had to clean all the porn out of our house.  My husband would hide it or justify it by saying it was ok to have it.  He's said that reading it's no big deal.  He's told me that "It's just something to read".  I've told him that porn is taking something special as sex and turned it into something dirty.  He didn't by it.  I've told him that he's addicted to it.  He's denied that.  I found a counselor who would help him and he refused to go.  One year friends of ours wanted us to go with them on our motorcycles to california to a cool motorcycle convention.  Well......................  My husband lost his job as janitor at our local church.  He was caught reading porn on the church internet.   And that was the end of our trip.  At home I have a block on our computer so he can't read porn.  I am so tired of porn in my life that I could scream!  You ask why did I marry him knowing this.  Well...............  I was blind to it and he was convincing that it was just a hobby.  Well I am no fool.  The message I would send to anyone who is dating someone with porn issues is RUN like hell..........  If it's not dealth with you'll battle it all of your marriage.  You feel undesirable when he doesn't want to have sex.  You'll never trust him, he'll lie about doing it and it will be one of the things you fight alot in your marriage.  It's a real hard additction to cure.   

 
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March 13, 2006, 2:19 pm PST

How hasn't it affected our marriage?

How porn has affected my marriage.  Well..........  I start by saying that it has affected it alot.  We haven't had sex in over 8 years.  My husband always told me "I don't want to have  sex"  and then I find him watching a porn flick or reading a porn book.  When we were first dating he took me out of town to meet his family and he took me to a xxx rated motel to stay over night.  I didn't think it was all that great.  During the course of our marriage we've battled the issue of porn alot.  I've had to clean all the porn out of our house.  My husband would hide it or justify it by saying it was ok to have it.  He's said that reading it's no big deal.  He's told me that "It's just something to read".  I've told him that porn is taking something special as sex and turned it into something dirty.  He didn't by it.  I've told him that he's addicted to it.  He's denied that.  I found a counselor who would help him and he refused to go.  One year friends of ours wanted us to go with them on our motorcycles to california to a cool motorcycle convention.  Well......................  My husband lost his job as janitor at our local church.  He was caught reading porn on the church internet.   And that was the end of our trip.  At home I have a block on our computer so he can't read porn.  I am so tired of porn in my life that I could scream!  You ask why did I marry him knowing this.  Well...............  I was blind to it and he was convincing that it was just a hobby.  Well I am no fool.  The message I would send to anyone who is dating someone with porn issues is RUN like hell..........  If it's not dealth with you'll battle it all of your marriage.  You feel undesirable when he doesn't want to have sex.  You'll never trust him, he'll lie about doing it and it will be one of the things you fight alot in your marriage.  It's a real hard additction to cure.   

 
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March 13, 2006, 2:25 pm PST

again your advice is to leave

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 being as you say it is and effecting you the way it is and he is your fiance' , not your husband yet, you need to shut this down. At the very least give him back the ring and tell him not to even think about marriage to you anymore until he can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt he has kicked this habit. Or, just cut yourself loose and move on. Figuring you can just deal with this after marriage is going to cause more trouble than you will want to get into...as it's effecting you the way it is when not even married to him.

hhhhhmmmm....leave a situation that doesn't work for you..........hhhhhmmmmm just as I am doing for my children and their school.  

  

  

 
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March 13, 2006, 2:27 pm PST

wow!!!!

Dr PHil puts on his front page this message board and it seems we have all kinds of women who are in relationships where porn doesn't work for them.... 

  

  

I would say....PORN HURTS MORE RELATIONSHIPS THEN MOST WANT TO BELIEVE!!! 

  

wake up America.....is porn really worth all this????My answer...NO! 

 

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March 13, 2006, 2:30 pm PST

How Porn Has Affected Our Relationship

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Help!  I am about ready to give up on the man I truly love.  I first discovered my fiancé (then boyfriend) was into porn  two years ago when I found it on my laptop after a birthday celebration weekend.  I was shocked, upset, hurt and sick that he would jump onto my laptop in my house and watch porn right after I walked out the door.  Of course it lead to a big fight, only for me to find out that it was a daily habit for him.  He swore that he was not addicted and that he would stop for one month.  Of course after a month I would see it come up again in his tool bar.  I would take a vacation and he would promise not to watch it so I would not be stressed about it only to well you guessed it watch porn the whole time I am gone.   We went to therapy a few times – the therapist made me feel like it was all my issues and there was nothing wrong with him  I had not seen any evidence of it for awhile and now we are engaged and I found it again last week.  I am hurt – I feel like I am not good enough or will never live up to what he looks at online. And no matter what he can’t get the fact that it pisses me off the he spends a considerable amount of time thinking about and looking for women online.  Then yesterday I found that he was viewing a whole bunch of women’s photos on the Howard stern website on my laptop while he is at work.  I of course got upset about it and now after this  happening twice in the past week he just blocks me out and makes snide comments about how he cant go to any website because there may be a half naked chick on it and that he just can’t do anything.  Truthfully I am scared and am having serious thoughts about marriage – I don’t want to feel not good enough in a marriage and I don’t get why he can’t just knock it off.   The really awful thing is that we get along and can communicate so well on everything else but this.   He or course things that I am the one with the issues - I don't know what to do. 

I was in the exact same situation!  My then boyfriend was very much into porn and couldn't understand why it bothered me so much.  When I would find evidence of it on his pc or in magazines we would have a huge fight and I would almost leave.  Things would be ok for a few weeks or months, but he would always start up again without fail.  I wasn't completely aware of how bad his problem was until after we were married with a child.  I am currently expecting our second child within the next 3-4 weeks and it wasn't until I got the courage up to develop a plan to leave him and follow through that he finally understood what a major issue this is for me.  I love him to no end and he is a wonderful father.  But, I did not want to raise our children in an environment in which porn was an accepted part of our relationship.  I want our children to know that they do not have to settle, and that they deserve to feel loved and accepted as they. 

  

  

As I prepared to leave my husband, I explained that if I had known how much porn was a part of his life I never would have continued to stay in our relationship.  My advice to you is to run for the hills and never look back.  This is too much of a problem for you to try and deal with for the rest of your life.  He will never change. 

 
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March 13, 2006, 2:45 pm PST

So what you are saying is that

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Him stopping the porn seeking or you trusting him?  Because the porn thing is a choice...he either does or does not want to do it. (unless otherwise addicted).  If he's not addicted, which by the way, there are many people who are "functioning addicts" of many things.  For instance, my sister is an alcoholic, she's never once been fired from her job and drinks on a daily basis.  There are many people who pop pills and think that because it's not affecting them (yet) that they aren't addicts....but try taking it away from them and see where they go with it. 

  

I am not saying he's an addict.  Obviously if he can stop and not seek it...then he's made a choice to not do it.  Nothing say "he's a bad person" because he's doing this....what makes the "action" bad is lying or deceiving someone else and risking hurting another person by doing something you HAVE the ability to stop.   

  

What you have to remember is that porn is seperate for men.  They don't "measure" up their real life love partners to porn.  Most ( I would hope) would understand the difference between fantasy and reality.  You are real.  He loves you.  He doesn't "love" porn or those images.  It has nothing to do with you and everything to do with HIM making  a choice.  One that should be simple if he's willing and understands how you feel about this.   What he needs to understand, and so do you, is you felt betrayed, let down, and disappointed in the man you want to marry....sometimes that takes time to restore and some reassurance is needed.  If he has stopped, then choose to let the history of him not doing this rebuild that.  You also have to make that choice....to trust again. 

  

Put it this way.....trust yourself.  That it won't matter even IF this does happen again.   You are stronge enough to make it through this and make the right decisions about it SHOULD it happen again.  Don't sell yourself short....it wouldn't be the end of the world.  You've gotten some place stronger with him because of sharing this problem and being honest.  If you push on this too much too....you can cause worse damage than the porn ever did.  YOU remember that porn is NOT reality and only YOU are to him.  There is no comparison.   

  

Luv 

I need to make my own choices. 

  

If i choose to stay with him, I should not look for it, I should trust that even if he looks at it once in a while i has nothing to do with me.  He loves and wants to spend the rest of his life with me and that in itself should be enough for me to feel secure not only about myself but about our relationship.   

  

If I choose to stay with him and keep looking for it, I will end up finding it and having to deal with it every single time.  This like you said could ultimately harm us and our relationship.   

  

Am I understanding what you are trying to say?   

 
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March 13, 2006, 3:00 pm PST

Just the facts Darcy

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hhhhhmmmm....leave a situation that doesn't work for you..........hhhhhmmmmm just as I am doing for my children and their school.  

  

  

 It was quite clear I was talking about you being the only one who is right in your community and you being picked on by the whole community. There is absolutely nothing wrong with moving to another community. I have not said that. This is one more example of how you read into what you want it to mean so you can feel that others seem like they are talking down to you.

You said you wanted us to part ways. So follow through with your conclusion and stop goading me.
 
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March 13, 2006, 3:03 pm PST

issue

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I was in the exact same situation!  My then boyfriend was very much into porn and couldn't understand why it bothered me so much.  When I would find evidence of it on his pc or in magazines we would have a huge fight and I would almost leave.  Things would be ok for a few weeks or months, but he would always start up again without fail.  I wasn't completely aware of how bad his problem was until after we were married with a child.  I am currently expecting our second child within the next 3-4 weeks and it wasn't until I got the courage up to develop a plan to leave him and follow through that he finally understood what a major issue this is for me.  I love him to no end and he is a wonderful father.  But, I did not want to raise our children in an environment in which porn was an accepted part of our relationship.  I want our children to know that they do not have to settle, and that they deserve to feel loved and accepted as they. 

  

  

As I prepared to leave my husband, I explained that if I had known how much porn was a part of his life I never would have continued to stay in our relationship.  My advice to you is to run for the hills and never look back.  This is too much of a problem for you to try and deal with for the rest of your life.  He will never change. 

The issue is that in my heart I already feel married to him and just leaving is not so easy.  I just wish I knew some resources to give him to understand how it makes me feel as in his eyes I am the only woman out there with this issue (funny righ?)
 
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March 13, 2006, 3:07 pm PST

Pornography destroys marriages and family

I too am in a marriage with an admitted addict to pornography.  If you are not married to the man who has this problem then please- RUN, Run in the opposite direction as fast as you can.  Until he is in a program for addicts, making real progress, has been in remission for a LONG time, he will not stop- even if he promises- he will not stop because he is an ADDICT.  They have to hit their rock bottom on their own and make the changes becasue they want to.  I guarantee you wanting him to change is not enough.  On top of that this addiction is one that progresses- once the thrill is gone from their current choice they move on to something worse- more exhilerating, more dangerous, more whatever.   

My husbands addiction has gone from porn to online affairs to attempts to hook up in dating sites and meet new relationships.  I thought him watching porn was the end of the world- believe me it gets worse.  I can't tell you how many times you watch your dreams shatter and then begin to rebuild again.  My husband and I are in couples counseling, he is goingto be starting a 12-step, and still his desire to change is next to nothing.  Its a horrible cycle of addiction and if you can walk away from the relationship- I don't care how great everything else is- walk away.  This will become huge in your relationship and all those other "great" things may not be enough to hold the relationship up.  You can always try again together when he does have this under some semblence of control.  Pornography warps views on women, marriage, sex, fidelity, right and wrong, violence, society as a whole... it destroys everyone in its wake. 

 If you choose to stay in a relationship with a man addicted to pornography then realize you need help too.  There are support groups, message boards, even 12 step programs for you as the spouse and loved one of a sex/porn addict.  good luck  

 

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