Topic : Pornography

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August 10, 2006, 10:03 pm PDT

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Hi and welcome to the board.  You headed your post "I am a porn addict".  I am wondering why you label yourself an addict?  Do YOU feel your porn use is out of control?  Is it interfering with your daily life and your relationships?  If you do think you are addicted, you should seek help.  Counseling would be a good first step.  If that isn't an option for you, there is a website called SAA - Sex Addicts Anonymous, which you could visit and get some advice and help.  There are also many books on the topic, one author I have seen mentioned here several times is Patrick Carnes, you could pick up one of his books at half.com or amazon.  

 

For some people porn is something they can do occasionally and some are even able to share it with their partners, if their partner is willing.  It doesn't sound like your wife is, and you are going to have to respect that.  From you labeling yourself an addict, it also doesn't sound like porn is something you are occasionally able to enjoy, but something that is causing problems in your life. 

 

I am sorry to hear your long-time marriage is going downhill.  If you address your addiction and get some help, maybe that would get y'all back on the way to happiness.  I am not saying your wife should have no part in helping y'all reconnect - I would imagine there are also things she can do to help reestablish intimacy.  But until you deal with your addiction, she is probably not even going to be willing to try.  Best wishes to you and yours Paul - I hope you stick around and let us know how you are doing and if we can help in any way.  Take care, Roxy

 to correct you. No ill intention meant. Paul headed his post with Am I a porn Attic...as in a question.
 
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August 10, 2006, 10:10 pm PDT

Ted Bundy

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The thing we tend to do is distrust that what we are thinking or feeling is inaccurate or wrong. It is true that at times our minds go in directions that are out of the normal way of thinking and your spouses reactions to the news might just be that. But the one thing I have found out is when our guts are twisting and our thoughts are working overtime, I beleive this is a natural tendancy to preserve and protect ourselves and maybe even others.His visiting teen porn web sites might just be a curiousity. After all, porn gets pretty ridiculous and repetitious after a while. Maybe he was just innocently exploring. Sex and fantasy are personal and individual and if we feel we have to try to understand everyone's fetishes we will drive ourselves insane. As a mother of two young men, you are sensitive to this even more, and rightly so. In closing my post to you, I would just like to tell you if something is bothering you, you need to address it and don't let it slip through the cracks. Keep your eyes and ears wide open because you just may be dealing with a guy that has sexual problems. It seems men have more sexual deviations whereas women are always trying to justify their emotions regarding behavior that is odd or wierd or different, at best. Good luck and remember you are a mother with two children and I am sure you are level headed. Don't let someone try to manipulate you think you don't know what you are talking about. Kimi
Lets not forget about Ted Bundy and the effect pornogrophy had on him, by his own admission.
 
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August 10, 2006, 10:17 pm PDT

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I also feel this way. If you want something to stay in your life there are ways and things to do and say that can help it along. If that thing wants to stay. Problem is, people cut themselves off and then have a hard time turning it back. There is a longing to turn it back, make it right and be happy.  Nukes?   May I call you that? What is, if any, a good cut off point in this longing? When it starts affecting your life negatively? And then, that negative effect it is handing us, its important to look at its ugly head and also allow others to solve their own personal deamons. We need other people to use as mirrors. Don't you believe that in spite of it all, we make the drama much more then it really is most of time because we need to work something out within ourselves? 

  

Steve is in a mourning stage, even though the person is still alive. Its the death of something and it is a difficult place to stand. Its transition and change and if we welcome the change and look to see what we can do to learn something about ourselves, our relationships will be much better and healthier. Don't you agree? 

Yes, you can call me Nukes. 

 

I don't know if there is a set cut off point.  I think it would depend on how the relationship is, and what is going on within that relationship, and if the relationship can be saved.  There are too many factors to automatically assign a cutoff point.

 

There are problems in almost every relationship.  The severity, and the way each couple address the problems, determines whether that relationship will survive or fail.  Some of the problems can stem from past experiences.  The way they were treated as a child or teen, or even as a young adult, could affect them for the rest of their lives.  Roxy has told me the things that have happened to her from childhood on up, which helps me to understand her better, and the way she feels about herself. 

 

The thing with our relationship is the fact that we both love each other very much, and I didn't want to be without her, and she didn't want to be without me.  It wasn't a matter of us not being able to be on our own, it was the love we have for each other, and fact that we have always said that we want  to grow old together. 

 

I know that not all relationships are the same, and yes there is a point when you have to cut your loses and move on, but noone can put a set time on that, because of the fact that each relationship is different from another.

 

 
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August 10, 2006, 10:34 pm PDT

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 I have to disagree with this part of your post,  "If you still love her more than anything, you should do whatever it takes to keep her." It does not strengthen a relationship when one is willing to do anything it takes to keep the other. That certainly wouldn't be accepted by women if told they should do anything it takes to keep the man she loves. Meaning, if they really love their man they should just accept his porn use.

I hope you get that I'm not making any disparaging accusations here when I say, ya don't give a child everything they want just to keep them happy. It's a very bad practice to just capitulate to unreasonable demands. Just giving the other what they want releases them of any sense of responsibility they should have.

That was only one sentence there.  What followed that sentence was this:

 

You should talk to her and let her know what you would like to see changed in her, and then ask her what she would like you to change about yourself, and the things you do.  Maybe you could both come to an agreement.

 

You are right when you say that it shouldn't be just one person giving in to the other, just to keep the relationship together, and I think that is what I said in the rest of the paragraph.  I don't think you were disparaging, and I agree that a relationship shouldn't be a one way street.  Roxy and I both talked and we have both made changes in our lives, and it has worked out for the better. 

 
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August 10, 2006, 11:15 pm PDT

porn shouldn't be part of your marriage

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HI, I AM A 41 YEAR OLD MALE AND HAVE BEEN MARRIED TO MY WIFE FOR 18 YEARS. OUR RELATIONSHIP IS GOING STRAIGHT DOWN HILL. OUR SEX LIFE IS HORRIBLE. I ENJOY PORN AND WOULD LIKE HER TO SHARE IT WITH ME BUT SHE REFUSES. I KNOW THERE IS ALOT MORE TO LOVE MAKING THAN PORN BUT IS THIS NOT A GOOD WAY TO KEEP THINGS EXCITING EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE OR DO I LIKE SOMETHING THAT SHOULD NOT BE PART OF A RELATIONSHIP. THANKS FOR LISTENING!

give your wife her dignity please, there are other ways of making things exiting, though it shouldn't be only your job to make it exciting , its her job too, but try flirting with her , we also like to feel young again with some one that thinks we're worth it. send her anon messages but in a way that she will know its you, leave clues around the house or simply just say : danm your sexy , I wand and have to have you . or some thing . porn is the lazy way out and only makes a women feel insugnificant and ugly. please don't do that to her there are way to many of us women putting up with that already!

good luck and welcome

 
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August 10, 2006, 11:16 pm PDT

Ya

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That was only one sentence there.  What followed that sentence was this:

 

You should talk to her and let her know what you would like to see changed in her, and then ask her what she would like you to change about yourself, and the things you do.  Maybe you could both come to an agreement.

 

You are right when you say that it shouldn't be just one person giving in to the other, just to keep the relationship together, and I think that is what I said in the rest of the paragraph.  I don't think you were disparaging, and I agree that a relationship shouldn't be a one way street.  Roxy and I both talked and we have both made changes in our lives, and it has worked out for the better. 

 I know and I saw that to. I was nit picken there a bit. Sorry, it wasn't aimed at you. I was making a point by going around through the back way...so to speak.
 
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August 10, 2006, 11:19 pm PDT

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hello. I don't think I have written to you here ....nor do I think I remember many of your post previous. Sorry about that. I tend to loose track of things. When there are so many that come and go....you start to not worry about the names and the logistics of it all.

 

Anyway....I have been married to my husband for over 20 years. We were young when we married.....much younger then I wish upon anyone. And how the two of us have managed to overcome all that we have....is beyond me at times. But here we are.

 

My husband has been a porn addict since he was a teen. And the age of the internet sure didn't help things at all. The last time he used porn....was 2 1/2 years ago however...in recent weeks I have discovered that he is falling back into some old patterns....that could and probably will (if left undealt with) lead him back to the porn.

 

So...my question for you (as I don't recall if you are dealing with addiciton or not) is when you feel yourself slipping......are you able to turn to your wife for support? Do you feel yourself slipping at times and when you do....do you know what is triggering this? I have found that my husband still struggles with recognizing himself starting to slip or he does recognize it but won't follow through with discussing these things with me.

 

And this is the discussions we are having very often lately. I asked him last night (while all of this is on the table again) if he can help me to recognize things myself. If he can tell me how he goes about securing his secrets from me. And his response had me quite puzzled. I am not sure if he fears telling me the answer because then he won't be able to hide it or if my question really has him that baffled. He told me "I will have to give that some thought." He at times....doesn't have answers for me....like it is too complicated for him to understand or i am making it far more complicated then it is....not sure which.

 

Okay...i am sure I have bombarded you with enough her for now. Thanks! (and if I have not yet done so....welcome to the board........having someone like you here....I think could be of great benefit for so many).

Thanks for the welcome.

 

According to the counselor I saw at the hospital, I don't have an addiction, but it did create a big problem within our mariage.  I don't know how much help I can be here, since it has been less than a year for me, but I will try.

 

I haven't felt like I was slipping back, nor have I had the desire to look at porn.  Roxy and I have talked about this, and we have agreed that if there is a point when this occurs, I will bring it up to her and we can discuss what is going on that could be bringing it back.  I can't say for sure if he is slipping or not, but if he is starting to look around again, that would be a sure sign for him.  The first thing that would give me a clue, is if I started to search out porn.  That would be a real indicator that I was slipping back.  If that is the case, then he needs to talk with you, and explain what is going on within your relationship that could be turning him back.

 

If he is slipping back and not saying anything, it could be that he is too embarrased to admit it, or he does have a fear of you finding out that he is.  I wish that I could be of more help here, but like I said, i haven't felt myself slipping back.

 

 
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August 10, 2006, 11:23 pm PDT

Oops

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 I know and I saw that to. I was nit picken there a bit. Sorry, it wasn't aimed at you. I was making a point by going around through the back way...so to speak.
 Better clarify that Nukes. Making a point by going around through the back way doesn't mean it was pointed at Roxy. Thought I better make that clear.

02:25 here. Got my computer glitch cleared up and I'm tired. Good night. Or morning.
 
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August 10, 2006, 11:27 pm PDT

I'm not that old , only 28

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Hi there!

New here.  Looked for answers cause internet porn had an impact on my life.  Reading all the postings I am happy to realize that most of you are at least 10 years older than me and it is still an issue. Which is kinda funny in a way and kinda sad, too.

I want to post my personal resolution after taking in your guys' statements, maybe it will help:

 

1. Everybody is entitled to their very own sexuality which you don't have to share with anybody (after all: do you let your spouse know all of your innermost thoughts?),

 

2. as long you take care (emotionally, sexually,...) of your spouse it won't become an issue,

 

3. we are social beings (which you proofed by signing up for this page) and we all want to be looked at, liked, admired, desired. C'mon, who of us ladies doesn't want to be seductive and feel desired? (Sucks if hubby is giving his attention to BigBoobBerta insteadt of you though, right?!  I know.)

 

4. It's not okay to say 'everybody does it'. Remember growing up?

-Mom, Dad, can I stay out til 12 tonite? -No! -But everybody is! - Well,you are not one of them!  (Turns out: everybody had to be home by 10...) It is your choice to watch porn. You do it on your own, and not because everybody is doing it.  It wouldn't be okay to say for your child, but it's okay for you? Owe up!

 

5. Never ever make it obvious to your spouses that this is a easy way out or use porn against her/ him: you weren't here...  If you'ld only would do this and that....  It shows a lack of interest to work or wait things out.  This really will kill the mood.

 

6. Last but not least: It's a self-esteem issue.  You watch porn and most do it in secret, you are somewhat a voyeur.  Why are you hiding? Afraid I may laugh at you? Or get mad? Afraid I reject you? Think different of you? Hey, I may like it, if you present it me to it in the right way...

              Same for those who feel victimized by it.  Does it make you feel ugly? Unattractive? Why? You are still as beautiful as you were before you discovered he/she watches porn. His/ her issue, not yours. Your body didn't change: you are afraid that he/she looks at your body differently, right?!  So, be good to yourself!  Appreciate and love yourself, your body, mind, and soul.

 

Look, after all relationships are about compromise, right? 

 

no 2 . is rong, it does feel like its true every now and then and yes I wouold love it to be , but the fact is even if you serve to every wish of his he will still look at porn as much as he likes! its a fact! I think you should read the posts again and see what the feelings are behind the words. this is not a light matter it distroyes families and people !
 
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August 10, 2006, 11:31 pm PDT

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Thanks for the welcome.

 

According to the counselor I saw at the hospital, I don't have an addiction, but it did create a big problem within our mariage.  I don't know how much help I can be here, since it has been less than a year for me, but I will try.

 

I haven't felt like I was slipping back, nor have I had the desire to look at porn.  Roxy and I have talked about this, and we have agreed that if there is a point when this occurs, I will bring it up to her and we can discuss what is going on that could be bringing it back.  I can't say for sure if he is slipping or not, but if he is starting to look around again, that would be a sure sign for him.  The first thing that would give me a clue, is if I started to search out porn.  That would be a real indicator that I was slipping back.  If that is the case, then he needs to talk with you, and explain what is going on within your relationship that could be turning him back.

 

If he is slipping back and not saying anything, it could be that he is too embarrased to admit it, or he does have a fear of you finding out that he is.  I wish that I could be of more help here, but like I said, i haven't felt myself slipping back.

 

right now us women here need all the advice we can get from the men who know whats going on as we have no clue what goes on in the minds of men!

please don't vanish you could help allot of us here, thats to say if your wife wouldn't mind sharing the mental side of you with us!

 

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