Quote From: kschmittzYes, our school has a zero tolerance policy so I am familiar with this. But just as with adults in real life, just because laws exist that doesn't mean people will follow them. My son has been told this as far as bullies and what not:
1) Tell the teacher. They can't fix anything if they don't know about it.
2) If the teacher does nothing (which is rare) then you first walk away. If they come at you physically (which is also rare) then you have free reign to defend yourself in any way necessary.
3) I will support my son if and only if he follows the steps- tell the teacher,and walk away. If that doesn't work, then he has a right to defend himself. If he's suspended, I will support him. If he's reprimanded, I will support him. I have never heard of no field trips....that is isolated.
I have a few questions for you now. Why is it that this boy seems to do things to your son repeatedly and the teacher doesn't notice? Most teachers are pretty "hip" to the bullies and try hard to keep an eye on them.
Next, why did you tell him to call you instead of working within school rules? I don't know the age of your son but cell phones are not usually allowed on school grounds.
Last, what happed when he ignored them? Did he walk away? I'm curious because my son will verbally confront the bully- not in a disrepectful way but assertive. Why can't your son do this?
Yes, our school has a zero tolerance policy so I am familiar with this. But just as with adults in real life, just because laws exist that doesn't mean people will follow them. My son has been told this as far as bullies and what not:
But as far as I know the law allows self defense without penalty.
1) Tell the teacher. They can't fix anything if they don't know about it.
2) If the teacher does nothing (which is rare) then you first walk away. If they come at you physically (which is also rare) then you have free reign to defend yourself in any way necessary.
3) I will support my son if and only if he follows the steps- tell the teacher,and walk away. If that doesn't work, then he has a right to defend himself. If he's suspended, I will support him. If he's reprimanded, I will support him. I have never heard of no field trips....that is isolated.
This is the same agreement I have with my kids. Except I would say "if what the teacher did was ineffective..."
I have a few questions for you now. Why is it that this boy seems to do things to your son repeatedly and the teacher doesn't notice? Most teachers are pretty "hip" to the bullies and try hard to keep an eye on them.
Why do you think that is?
Some of my sons teachers are very much aware of the bullies. These particular kids are well known for bullying. They said they know they are causing problems for other kids - not just my son - and they can't seem to catch them. They can't supervise these few kids every minute. The bullies aren't stupid. They know when and how to move without getting caught - lunchtime - restrooms - locker rooms etc.
Next, why did you tell him to call you instead of working within school rules? I don't know the age of your son but cell phones are not usually allowed on school grounds
Is there a rule in schools against calling parents? I wasn't telling him to use the cell phone - he doesn't take it even though he is allowed - I told him to ask the teacher if he could call me. I didn't tell him not to tell her what was going on - just that I would like to know IN ADDITION.
I told him to call me because he did tell a teacher the day before and it continued the rest of that day.
I told him to call me because I'm his mother, he is a minor and he has every right to call me for help out of a situation or any other reason.
I told him to call me so I could call the principal. I wanted to let her know there was a situation that had been escalating and that I had given my son the okay to defend himself - and if that happened I wanted to be notified immediately - not after they question him or dish out punishment and have him sign papers.
Last, what happed when he ignored them? Did he walk away? I'm curious because my son will verbally confront the bully- not in a disrepectful way but assertive. Why can't your son do this?
Who said he hasn't tried that? You must know that doesn't always work - otherwise you wouldn't have step 3 in your plan.
My son has ignored them - even though he shouldn't have to. If another teacher at your school told you repeatedly you were ugly or fat etc. and threatened you, would you ignore it?
When he ignores it they sometimes drop - at least for the time being - other times it escalates as the bully tries harder to get a reaction. Yes, he walks away when he can. Other times the teacher will walk in or start class and that ends it for the time being.
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